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Trending & News Can they even give consent, even if they say yes?

Man, I really hate the fucking double standards we have to deal with. They're so blatant and shits in the face of what equality would really mean. A drunk man is held to a sober standard... but then we got chicks that get a free excuse and yet another chance to fling false rape charges.
Reminds me of this chick while I was in technical training school in the Navy. Accused my dude of rape. He was fucked and about to get financially raped as well as every freedom taken away. Just so happened there was another chick there and she took pictures and was video recording. ... It took me hours to talk that chick into stepping in and telling what really happened... showing what really happened.
Everything got dropped and the chick ended up in trouble for making false allegations... I never got as much as a "Thank you," but I did learn a valuable fucking lesson...
That lesson of how fucked shit is, and seeing justice prevail for once was my reward.
MHO's are picked so I'm not really saying anything... I'll add a picture for a shot at AI giving me a superb opinion.
It depends how drunk she is. There is definetely a big red line when she is soo drunk she can't give consent anymore.
This is a more nuanced question than "it's okay if you're both drunk, it's not okay if not". People respond differently to liquor. I act drunk after one shot, enough to get kicked out of a bar. I'm only really intoxicated after four drinks though. I've met people who need upwards of fifteen drinks to buzz, and others who barely respond to alcohol.
If she's blackout, falling over, drunk and you are not, you would be committing assault. Otherwise, I wouldn't call sex with tipsy or slightly drunk people rape. Their mind is still working, they're just a little looser
@KrakenAttackin No ne because according to our VERY FAIR (LOL) laws men cannot be raped and do not have to consent to anything at all. Only women get legal protection when it involves sex.
There have been a few cases (see https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7125884/) where women have forced men (either by threatening blackmail or by using a weapon) to have sex with them. That is rape although no physical assault is involved. An older woman with an underage teenage (male or female) is the more common scenario, in which case it is usually statutory rape.
I'd probably try to sleep with her once she's 100 percent sober 😅 😅
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ok. If a women commits assault or breaks the law, even if she's drunk, it's deemed that she knows what she's doing, and she gets charged.
However if she's drunk and sleeps with someone, suddenly the law deems her to not know what she's doing...
Not to mention most of these encounters would be after bars/clubs/parties - Meaning the guy himself would often be drunk. Therefore why is it rape against her, but not him?
Women need to be responsible for their own decisions an actions, rather than constantly excusing themselves, and blame others.
This is really insensitive. You are basing driving while drunk “she knew what she was doing and did it anyway so punishment” TO RAPING SOMEONE “he knew what he was doing, he put his d*ck inside her while she didn’t consent since she was drunk”. Those are TWO different things and definitely have no knowledge to be coming at this from a “legal analysis”
@MisterWack If he is drunk then she put his dick in her. This is a valid point that people over throw to always victimize the female. If both are equal then both are guilty.
@Sharkstealth Yeah that is rape too.
If you look at the question, “Are drunk girls free game?” Then the first options mentions, “EVEN IF STONE DRUNK”. I’m “overlooking” your ridiculous statement since it is irrelevant. MY TAKE: If a man is drunk and can’t consent then it is rape, same with raping a woman. 100%
@MisterWack Except women NEVER get charged with rape.
@MisterWack No I never said ''raping'' a drunk person is ok. I said having consensual intimacy with someone, even if they stone drunk, should not count as rape. Or at least that's how I understood the question. Again, why is being stone drunk not an excuse to committing a crime, as you're deemed to know what you're doing, however suddenly when it comes to the bedroom, a girl suddenly is deemed not to know what she's doing when she's drunk (hint, she does), and she's suddenly a victim.
Big contradiction there.
No and no. End of story.
Now, there’s a heavy double standard here. No man can walk into a police station and report being raped by a woman because he was too drunk or high to consent. But it is absolutely a crime the other way around, and any man who isn’t otherwise rich & influential will be in jail before he can finish telling his side of the story.
There have been a few cases popping up wherein women who made false allegations got caught, usually because there was substantial video evidence or a digital trail through social media and text logs. In the end, they rarely face any meaningful consequences because of the myth about real victims won’t come forward if we punish liars and con artists.
Either way, better to be safe than sorry. Just say ‘NO’ to drunk chicks! But do it with witnesses and on camera. Ell oh ell!
It is rape since when she/he is drunk, they can’t truly consent to it. You can make an argument if they were sober and consented to drunk sex however if no consent was given (which would be impossible as drunk also she’d/he’d be weaker to fight it off / tell you to stop) It is a CRIME AND VIOLATION OF THE INDIVIDUAL’S BODY, I don’t care the gender, what I do care is law & morality.
DON’T RAPE!
P. S. Helpful tips: Don’t leave your drink unattended while you get up to use bathroom or something, Watch the drink being poured, and Make sure to be aware of your surroundings when taking a drink. Be safe out there, also to morons DON’T HAVE SEX WITH DRUNK STRANGERS WTF?
Edit: For the small amount of MEN who said, “ Yes, they know what they got themselves into, even stone drunk “ FUCK YOU for having no respect for the female gender. It is a sexual violation, if it were a man doing it to you up the ass you wouldn’t like it / feel emotionally & mentally & sexually traumatized and shook… Drunk isn’t ‘free game’, you can find someone for consensual activities on Tinder OR try finding a prostitute, it is a crime to rape. It is rape on legal textbook. Don’t rape.
I can still balance on one leg after four margaritas. Don't tell me that you can't think just because you're drunk that's ridiculous.
Of course if you were talking about them being so drunk they don't even know where they are, they're stumbling, clearly slurring, etc that's different.
@Juxtapose
Do you find it strange at the amount of women who don’t agree with you types on this subject? Exactly
i have two sisters. all women are promiscuous. alcohol helps. why is she talking to you?
@MisterWack No, not really. I don't fuck blackout drunk women but if you're buzzed don't play the victim. It's lame.
If they're drunk and you're not, don't do it.
If you're drunk and they're not, it's okay if they give concent, but you could regret it.
If you're both drunk, not a good idea, but neither can be blamed.
Whatever the case concent is mandatory.
Being in a drunken state inhibits your decision making capabilities, so it's not smart unless you already know eachother and know you want to be intimate.
No, definitely not for the majority real men out there, who would never rape a drunk woman!
Laura 🤗 🥰

Ugh, some men.
As a man, yes there are douchebags out there.
Are women who drive drunk responsible for driving drunk?
If a woman with a boyfriend gets drunk and hooks up with a random guy soceity says its not her fault and she was raped, if a man with a girlfriend gets drunk and hooks up with a random girl he cheated.
At some point in society women are going to have to be held accountable for their own bad decisions the same way men are.
You haven't defined "drunk" clearly enough to have an meaningful poll.
In my state.08 is legally "drunk". You can't legally drive a car, but you're still pretty coherent and know what you're doing. I've arrested drivers who have blown a 1.8. You have to specify if you mean "buzzed" drunk or "shit-faced" drunk. If you're going with the legal definition of drunk (.08) damned near everyone at a bar who got laid would be a rapist.
I would say it is rape unless he is drunk too and the couple already have an active sexual relationship (and she consents of course and is at no time unconscious). Husbands and wives often have drunk sex and she may be the one coming on to him. If a guy has a drunk woman who is a stranger, or a friend, or even an ex girlfriend coming onto him at a bar whether he is drunk or not he should walk away.
Not free - you still have to pay for their drinks and maybe food.
If a drunk girl drives it’s a criminal offence as she’s held accountable for her actions + if she kills someone.
But if she’s drunk she can’t give consent? Bulls**t. Plus people always have sex when drunk. It’s a joke. Yet she will always have the power to destroy your life. It was her fault! How is it a man’s fault? Consent is consent. You don’t sue a tattoo parlour for getting a drunk tattoo. You can’t get money back from a casino because you were drunk.
lack of consent = rape
@Juxtapose rape is different from being tricked into signing contracts plus both still too wrong
@Juxtapose yes u were raped unless u were totally ok with it once u sobered up
Lack of consent = Rape, look up a lawbook and look at how women & men voted in this poll. Pretty damning. Sick people who think raping is okay, that is what you are defending here.
I paid a feminine twink to blow me, and I wasn't even drunk. But then post-nut clarity hit me and I sobered up from the state of being dumb-fullacum, so I was not ok. Was I raped?
@Juxtapose so getting too drunk means getting raped is ok? Doesn’t seem right…
As I said in my own comment..
"If I get drunk and have sex with a woman who is sober, people will laugh at me if I say I got raped. Wow, what amazing male privilege am I right?
Casinos don't care if you are drunk, they actually encourage it. People who let you sign contracts don't care if you are drunk. A tattoo artist is not liable if you are drunk. Etc.
I am so sick and tired of these double standards. They only exist because people are intellectually weak and allow it."
@Juxtapose you get your morality from casinos? Lol
As if casinos are immoral? The odds being in the houses favor is very much understood and you can even look up online the exact statistics and probability of your success or failure.
Casinos are for rich people to go to have fun with games, get drunk and socialize. They are not for the poor trying to make a living off of it, only the stupid do that.
@Juxtapose you keep saying that and there’s a lot of gray area, fyi. Just like there is with SA. I found this lawyers blog pretty useful.
tuplerlaw.com/.../
Tell that to all the people who got married while drunk. In practice and in the courthouse, you are responsible for your own actions. Trying to avoid a contract because you were irresponsible and got drunk is essentially trying to avoid yourself of responsibility.
If you can't trust yourself to not ruin your life while you are drunk? Don't fucking drink. It's not hard dude.
@Juxtapose and they can get annulment. Just as the lawyer points out there are avenues for people who feel rough shod over while drunk.
Do you think everything is immediately determined?
And if you depend on those type of second chances to bail you out and then it doesn't work out how you want it? What then? Should have planned better. Should have had personal responsibility.
I don't like cuddling people and I don't think it does them any favors in the long run.
And if you want to talk about determinism, yes, everything has been determined since the dawn of time. The last raindrop you saw, if you had omniscience? You could have calculated where that would have gone since the dawn of time because you know everything. Things don't happen by accident, but it doesn't mean there is a super intelligence behind the universe. It just means that the universe is going to turn out a certain way.
"But doesn't that get rid of free will and personal responsibility?"
No, incentives and disincentives are important to maintaining social order and that was also predetermined from the very beginning.
@Juxtapose so you’re advocating for no legal rights for anyone? Lol
What are you saying? Your “take accountability” argument has just been deconstructed and you’re stumbling to find an answer. Lol
@Juxtapose In this case- length doesn’t matter.
Consider yourself deconstructed. Boom
@Juxtapose it’s not. I got you to say people don’t deserve legal recourse. Boom deconstructed bitch.
@Juxtapose not bugging out of anything. You admittedly said people should have their accountability and no legal recourse for drunken marriage or being SA’ed.
wtf did this methadone shit come from? Like my Xanax tablets, the fda has regs for pharmacies dipshit. Beyond that, I have no fucking clue what you’re bugging me about.
I'm talking about buying methadone from a dealer. On the street they call it "Ice." I don't believe in drug prohibition and I also don't believe in punishing people who sell dangerous products as long as they are exactly as advertised. A. k. a, no spiking that shit.
Oh give me a fucking break. You compare somebody getting drunk and then having sex, and then having regrets about it to sexual assault. What a fucking joke. If you drink you are responsible for your actions still. I have been drunk myself and I have had sex with sober people, it was not rape.
@Juxtapose Wow. You just predetermined AGAIN why a girl or guy would say they were raped after a drunken night. And deny them legal recourse, I imagine. Well done shitheel.
And again…methadone, don’t know where this came from but yeah it should be regulated. Like all drugs. Not sold illegally on streets. Is this what happens when your logic is deconstructed? You grasp at straws?
Yeah, if a man and a woman agree to have sex then they agree to have sex. They are consenting adults. Intoxication is something you should be aware of and prepare yourself for. If you can't handle being intoxicated, don't get intoxicated. You don't have to have alcohol to survive holy shit dude.
I am utterly in disagreement with you. Drug prohibition is a failure and it should only be prohibited for children. Adults should be able to put whatever they want in their body if they are not behind a wheel or if they are not in front of children.
Fuck you and fuck anyone who wants to tell me what I can or cannot put my body in the privacy of my own home. That's fucked up. I am not your slave. You do not own my body.
@Juxtapose so you’re in utter disagreement that legal recourse should be given to anyone who wants it?
Again you are predetermining why or how a rape victim gets help. Or doesn’t in your world.
@Juxtapose there’s no way for “law” to predetermine that shitheel.
Seeing a problem with your arguments? Every post, either about rape or porn, you are PRE-DETERMINING- or guessing- what the outcome would be. And you shouldn’t because you’re bad at it.
@Juxtapose what do you think judges and juries do again? You think their judgements are predetermined in law?
@Juxtapose that’s a law. We can’t make a law saying “Juxtoose is guilty in whatever he does sexually.”
And you prove @Juxtapose correct. Exactly, hold your damn liquor and don't cause harm. You should be held responsible for any harm resulting from liquor overdose. There is no difference between causing a car crash while drunk, or initiating regretful sex while drunk. Your fault both times.
@Basement-Bum you just said ban liquor you fucking moron. You and @Juxtapose think you can decide in advance people’s fate. Why?
Banning something WORLDWIDE was sarcastic if you still didn't get it.
@Basement-Bum right…But like @Juxtapose you want to deprive legal recourse for anyone who feels raped. You two are a couple of shitheels.
Whew, glad we cleared up that pesky business about consent! Now, onto juicier topics. Indeed, a tipsy bitch can horny and sexy as hell, we can all agree to that, right? Her loose inhibitions create unexpected situations -- her damn boob could pop out or she might even start squirting vaginal juices uncontrollably. Even observing that kind of lasciviousness from afar offers satisfactory porn value. So, just find yourself a discreet spot commence solitary relief. If she sees you wanking in and decides to help a brother out, then the only one getting raped is you.
@Juxtapose as we’ve discussed before, it’s never black and white, it’s shades of grey. Blanket statements like that are what makes your arguments stupid as fuck.
@Juxtapose no dumbass the law shouldn’t be rigid that it can’t conform to complex individual cases.
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@laly520
Sorry that there are moronic people out there who are against lack of consent = rape to the point it leads to 60+ replies against your truthful comment … You are a good person with a kind heart and were educated properly on consent, SA, rape, etc. You have a pure heart and a good spirit, these people are disgusting… I pray for you and I send my blessings to you, you deserved better also women as a whole deserve better. <3
@MisterWack awwww thanks a lot
made my day <3
Made my day too. I love being labeled disgusting as much as @Billlewis loves being called a cuck.
@MisterWack I was merely advocating public masturbation.
take a few tour busses full of athletic men and go to town on those hoes. they know what they want. it just took the alcohol to get there.
should bars have consent forms at the door for people? notarized?
Sore topic for me this past month. No.
Someone I know.
Woman get scared having been so heavily drunk and men get off. Three days later. Can't help people in vicious cycles. Frustrating.
It is a very tricky subject. It depends if you are rich and good looking. It will be considered consensual sex. If you are just a regular puke it might be considered rape.
Yes they're easy to get laid with
It's more like their subconsious mind got the courage to consent which they won't have while sober
There's no fun in pumping a too drunk woman.
Alternative: watch porn and masturbate :D
Since in the US and Europe if they're drunk then legally they're incapable of consent I'm certain I'd avoid them if I weren't married already.
They are just as responsible for themselves as *I* am when I am drunk.
I never drink until blackout by the way only morons do that.
If I get drunk and have sex with a woman who is sober, people will laugh at me if I say I got raped. Wow, what amazing male privilege am I right?
Casinos don't care if you are drunk, they actually encourage it. People who let you sign contracts don't care if you are drunk. A tattoo artist is not liable if you are drunk. Etc.
I am so sick and tired of these double standards. They only exist because people are intellectually weak and allow it.
It's not immediately rape but if you are targeting that especially if you are sober then you should be eradicated
Yes, they know. They're not babies and we don't go. out to babysit. If they are functioning what does being drunk have to do with it.
@dongie
typical toxic male. so you want the wallet to not be your fault when drunk but women having sex it's "They're not babies and we don't go. out to babysit. If they are functioning what does being drunk have to do with it."...
pick a lane.
I'm of the mindset of "don't get drunk to the point you lose yourself as a person and your awareness". However being drunk shouldn't get you raped or stolen from. Don't put words in peoples mouths without consent (again., really outing yourself as a rapist yourself in many ways!).
and again, CRINGEY.
Only a POS would take advantage of a drunken woman.
Well, women are either "strong and powerful" of they are not which is it?
🙄 Okay Satan’s advocate.. If men are so “strong and powerful” how come when WE are blackout drunk a woman can get a strap on / another man can just SHOVE IT up the ass? Answer: It is taking advantage.
So you like being violated sexually? No? Then why support this onto a woman? Exactly, it is a crime for a reason.
@MisterWack let's talk about basic accountability. If a girl has a few drinks, consents to sex, than regrets it the next morning, that should not constitute rape.
Porn isn’t real life. Porn is actors working with a scene, the sex is very much real however it is sex NOT RAPE. If the woman is in a bar and she is blacked out, wasn’t looking for sex or wanted it… 100% RAPE if she is violated and inserted. That is what the laws are.
@MisterWack So what if the man is more intoxicated than the woman? Is she raping him?
I don't know where this is going, but I usually meditate and ask the actresses for consent before I can whack to seeing them get plowed. Sometimes I get visions of them saying "yes, I consent".
But ultimately, it's @bondage_bruce that I ask for permission every single time.
"So what if the man is more intoxicated than the woman? Is she raping him?"
You got his ass with a strap-on with that one. 😂 🤣
@MisterWack Did Joe Biden touch your micropenis when you were a child? I don't understand why you are you running all around here like the almighty protector of Western feminists? Just get a pair of tweezers and yank that little micropenis off if you're so in touch with your feminist side.
@D_Bone_Steak Yeah, women are either equal or they are not.
Legally they're not capable of consenting when intoxicated. Morally they consented when they deliberately went out and got completely wasted. It's not like somebody spiked their drink.
Sorry for going Anon but I don't want my account frozen again.
are drunk men free game for 220 lb muscular gay men?
This is one of several good reasons not to get drunk.
No. But absolutes are hard to do. Sometimes it’s intended.
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