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No I just don't think about it and so I don't let it affect me.
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No, I don't. It feels sad, or frustrating, or teasing, or something like that, but it doesn't make me angry because it's just the result of who I am.
I used to be mad at all girls because I desperately wanted a girl and I couldn't get one -- and I wasn't even ugly or anything, I was just way too socially inept and was way too shy to talk to girls. And I probably could have gotten one anyway if only I could have settled for someone fat/ugly, but that's always been out of the question for me.
Nowadays, I couldn't get a good-looking girl even if I did actually talk to them, because I'm short, overweight, bald, old, don't drive, don't work, live with my parents, very timid and serious--every single thing girls can't stand--but I've made myself come to terms with the fact that, just like I selfishly wouldn't go out with a desperate girl who was fat/ugly, I can't expect a cute/pretty/sexy girl to do me a favor and go out with me despite me not doing it for her due to my various attributes. We're all selfish, we all get into the game because we want to get something out of the other person, so it's all fair and I no longer resent women.
No.
Hot girls are a major pain in the ass. I have learned this after 48 years on this planet of ours.
Of course, every guys wats the hot girls ( unless he is gay) but they tend to be vain and very boring. If she is hot that is all find and dandy but that gets boring after a while. I like to read and have hobbies ( learning French for the past seven years !!) and I find that I get very bored with women since most of them are not very interesting. Especially the very good looking ones.
Case in point: about seven years ago we had a younger coworker the was hired. She was very young and good looking. I was very attracted to her and I would say I had a crush on her. She still works for the company but at a different branch. Over the years I have spoken to her on several occasions but she was never very interesting. She lacked any interests or hobbies. It took me awhile to accept that a relationship with her would never work out because we had almost nothing in common. I have seen many good looking women all over the place and frankly they all seemed kind of dumb.
But wait I am not neccessarily talking about relationships. Even for fun and one night stands. They are out of reach if you are not attractive like they are.
no. when i see a hot guy, I just admire him physically thats it. Nothing else.
Dating a hot guy comes with its own set of problems. Spending the rest of your life looking over your shoulder to make sure they're not cheating on you with someone hotter. Them being arrogant and acting like they're better than you since they have more options. If you gain a few pounds of a few wrinkles, you get afraid they might go for someone else hotter than you. You see him getting checked out by girls while you are on dates with him.
Things are just better when you date someone who is on your level.
Yes! I agree! That's why I think those type of people are only good for a one-night stand or as a NSA/friends with benefits. Even then, the sex won't always be hot.
No.
Feeling threatened by someone attractive usually comes from insecurity, not reality.
If anything, I’d admire her beauty, but it wouldn’t make me feel “less.”
People connect through personality, energy, and compatibility not just looks.
I like much of what you said. But for example I am like a 7, so I know I feel that girls of a certain beauty are simply outside my reach. And when I think about it I start to feel angry at how unfair this is. When I am being honest and not try to lie to myself like so many people here, I just can't escape this hard fact. :( I say to myself imagine if I was much more attractive like a 9 + as a man. Imagine the shear beauty of girls I wold be able to enjoy. As I am I can only look :( Sort of window shopping. You want something but you do not afford it. :(
I hear you, feeling that way doesn’t make you weak, it just means you’re being honest about your frustration.
But here’s the part you’re missing: attraction isn’t a strict ranking system where 9s only date 9s and everyone else is “priced out.”
People don’t pair up like math equations.
I’ve seen insanely beautiful women fall for men who aren’t conventionally attractive at all because the chemistry, presence, and confidence were stronger than the numbers.
If you walk through life thinking certain women are “unaffordable,” you’re already putting yourself below them and that energy shows before your looks even enter the room.
You don’t need to be a 9 to connect with someone beautiful.
You just need to stop treating yourself like a 7 who has no chance.
The mindset matters way more than the mirror.
I like your reasoning. Again you mentioned some very good points. Namely that people may connect with the energy of their personality so to speak. I am not saying that an 8 has no chance with a 9 +, but the bigger the gap the more unlikely it is to be with that someone. I mean I can take myself as an example and from the other side of the matter. If a girl is below a certain level of attraction, I find it very difficult to imagine myself being with her. And that is why it is called attraction! No matter how awesome her character might be I'd be happier by myself in that case. But again what you mentioned is very real. And to add to what you have just said, I might find a girl beautiful but something about her personality puts me off. And so I would never want to have anything to do with her because the totally is very negative.
I get what you’re saying, attraction absolutely has a baseline.
There’s a point where no level of personality can compensate, and that’s valid.
We all have a minimum threshold we naturally respond to.
But here’s where people get it wrong,
The “gap” isn’t as fixed or as big as it feels in your head.
What you label as a 9 might be someone else’s 7.
What feels “out of reach” to you might not feel that way to her at all.
And chemistry can shift perception fast.
A woman you thought was an 8 can suddenly feel like a 10 when her energy hits right.
And the reverse is true, beauty fades instantly if the vibe is off.
So yes, attraction starts with visuals.
But connection decides everything after that.
If you stay confident, grounded, and self respecting, the so called “gap” closes more than you think.
I appreciate your reasoning. I must tell however that although beauty may be subjective, it is also most defenitley objective. It can be measured. I am not taking about personality at all. I am talking here physical beauty. Have you ever heard of the golden ratio? Its amazing. It crops up in nature and in man made things as well. For example when a building looks beautiful it is found to have a golden ratio. The ratio is 1 : 1.618 to 3 decimal places. Now sure nobody is perfect but some come really really close. The closer you are to this number the more attractive and aesthetically pleasing you look. It is a fact. There is no arguing about it. The further you are from this number then obviously the less attractive a person or anything is.
And just recently I uploaded a pic of myself on a computer software on some website and I did not even score 7 out of 10. :( It gave me 6.8. :( lol I mean a laugh but its not funny really. And to test it I uploaded a few controls from random pics online. For example I used a pic of Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise, and Elsa Hosk. And they all got a score over 9. 9.2, 9.4, and 9.2 respectively. So I figured that the software is pretty good. Although to be honest I then uploaded some ordinary looking people and they were scoring like 7.8. And I thought it a bit off. Especially one particular pic of a girl I uploaded surprised me. I thought she was going to get a 6 or something.
On a good note I can get a 7 or maybe 7.2 if I apply moisturize! lol Because one of the metrics was the skin, and it was the lowest of my individual scores. I don't know why the software things I have a 5.5 for skin. I just think I have normal skin. lol But yeah hard facts. Which I find hard to swallow. So unfair. :(
The website in case you're curious is attractiveness scale. It has a pink logo.
I get the fascination with the golden ratio and those scoring tools, they’re fun to look at, but they’re not the truth.
Those systems don’t measure presence, expression, charm, voice, the way someone moves, or the energy they give off.
They only measure static symmetry on a single photo.
That’s why an “ordinary” person can score high and a genuinely attractive person can score low.
Photos lie.
Software even more.
And here’s the part most people overlook,
You’re not being judged in real life as a paused image with your skin rated out of 10.
People respond to your vibe, your confidence, your warmth, the way you look at them, all the things no algorithm can calculate.
If you really were a strict 6.8 in the real world, your experiences with women would reflect that.
But attraction isn’t math.
It shifts based on how someone experiences you.
Use the score as a curiosity, not a verdict.
Your value doesn’t shrink because a website didn’t like the lighting of one photo.
haha your answer is always a mixture of things I really like and things I don't agree on. Again you have mentioned something which is very true. That people respond to your energy and vibe not just your looks.
But anyways, regarding looks I would have ranked myself as a 7.5. So the software is not far off about me. And with respect to experience with women I don't have much. I feel awkward in public. I may be suffering from social anxiety. And I tend not to like people in general where I live! So maybe its just that. I might be a different person in a different country is what I think.
Thank you for your replies. :)
I get where you’re coming from.
If you don’t feel comfortable where you are, or the people around you don’t bring out your best, it’s natural to feel “smaller” than you actually are.
Social anxiety can distort the way you see yourself, not just looks, but confidence, presence, how you think others perceive you.
A 7.5 on a tool doesn’t mean much if the environment you’re in keeps you from showing your full self.
And honestly, many people become a different version of themselves in a place where they feel understood.
Your vibe shifts, your energy changes, and confidence starts to feel effortless.
So your lack of experience with women isn’t a verdict on your attractiveness.
It’s more likely a reflection of your comfort level and surroundings, not your value.
You’re not broken.
You’re just not in the right space yet.
Every so often someone comes along who says something of worth. And you are one of them! Your answers are well thought out and grounded in reality. I appreciate someone like you who seems to have a brain unlike the many people here, even though we don't agree 100%.
I would have given you another most helpful opinion but I can only select it ones. Thank you for your answers. :) It was nice chatting with you. And take care. :)
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I used to think that way until I discovered how those "hot women" will cheat on you in a heartbeat. They will cheat because every man (and gay women) out there wants her, and she knows it, and I don't blame them because everyone wants to be found truly attractive, and (in my opinion) everyone would love to have the ability to sleep around with so many people.
I've discovered that when you're out on a date with a really hot woman, you and her will see all the men around you checking her out and approaching her when you leave for a moment, even if it's just so you can go to the bathroom.
As far as I'm concerned, truly beautiful women are only good for a one-night stand, or as a NSA/friends with benefits. In my opinion, it makes for a win/win. You get to have sex with a hot woman, and she gets to sleep with someone new.
Yes you are right. But if you are like a 7 not even a one night stand you will get with a 9+. Its very difficult. So I am not contradicting you at all. I am not saying I am pissed because I can't be in a long term relationship with them only. But as I said they are like out of reach for guys who are unattractive. And when I think about it it really puts me down. Life is just so unfair.
To me it just radiates an ego and desperation. That she can and will never really invest her time and energy into a relationship simply cause she's purely surface level. Her charm and beauty in a sense is purely at its best visually. And as a result with many with this unfortunate feature as their main life perk. Its pretty clear she envies any and everyone that isn't suffering her own hellscape she can't escape. And if anything I'm greatful. Greatful that I don't have to live a life where everyone stares, makes small comments here or there but avoids you. And the few that do know you probably are more likely keeping you around as a trophy/object than actually want you around.
wrong attitude. No girl is off limits. You see a beautiful girl don’t shy away. Talk to her. But don’t be a drooling ass.
Talk to her like you would talk to any girl. Most beautiful girls don’t get the attention they desire because guys are afraid to approach them. Stop being afraid.
There is merit in what you said, but it is not completely true. I mean come on girls who are 9 and above deserve a guy who is at least above 8 on the physical attractiveness scale. I think for attraction to be genuine very often they need to be around equally attractive. I mean a man is physically attractive in a different way than a woman, but never the less he needs to be attractive unless she is with him for financial security or something.
But then again yes maybe I am being a bit too afraid. And I did reason one time as you did that beautiful girls might not get approached that much by guys because the guys reason like me. haha
Here is the basic truth you need to think about.
If you don’t ask the pretty girls out, you won’t go out with them.
If you ask them and they say no, you won’t go out with them.
But….
If you ask and they say yes….. what do you really have to lose.
Get past the fear and do what you want.
The no is what you have to lose, because in today's world "the worst she can say is no" is actually one of the better options. Even insults isn't that bad. Granted, the worst happening is super unlikely, but that doesn't mean the worst doesn't horribly affect your life or even put you in jail.
Physical beauty/hotness may have little to do if a woman would be interested in you, or you in her, except on a physical level. And someone in a crowd passing by? You'll never meet them anyway, will you? Why worry about what you'll never have because of host of OTHER reasons that have nothing to do with how "hot" this woman is.
Waste of your time!
First, I don't think any woman is "too beautiful for me". I think a lot of women seem to like me and some don't find me attractive or interesting.
Second, why would I feel pissed? Everyone is entitled to like or not like whoever they choose. I may feel disappointed. But I'm not getting angry about it. C'est la vie.
Pissed when I see beauty? Absolutely not. I think you'd be classified as an incel if you have those kinds of thoughts while seeing a beautiful girl.
I'm not attracted to girls who wear excessive makeup like the girl in the image. I like natural looking feminine girls who wear dresses and such. And all I think is, wow they're beautiful, regardless of if I'd be able to date them or not.
I don't think of women in terms of being too beautiful or "out of your league." They are just people, many of whom already have their own problems anyway. And I wouldn't be interested in any woman who sees her own self as too beautiful or places that kind of value and emphasis on her whole being.
I don't know if a girl is too pretty for me.
Some of the 10s I have met have been some of the nicest to me.
Thing is that after a certain threshold she no longer has to prove her attractiveness to herself or anyone else for that matter.
Why would I get mad over that? Am I supposed to be getting mad at myself for not being better? I can't change the past and I'm already putting in work in the present to be better in the future, so what is there to be mad about?
Not even look at my profile,(look at that darkened ordinary Mexican) I've have gotten Soo lucky to talk to really cute pretty white girls I was more in disbelief. i was like eduardo nooo Way what do they see in you 🫣🫣🤭🤔
Pissed off? No. Nervous and embarrassed? Sure.
I usually don't worry all that much about impressing people but pretty girls and mentor figures are the exception.
Not at all. Honestly, when I was growing up, I wish I was more attractive at times. But then I've heard some people say that its sometimes a curse, and that theyre only treated a certain way because of their looks.
What curse? Its a blessing dear. These are all ways how people deal with situations they can do nothing about. They try to sooth themselves with tales and lies.
This is a wild question and I’ll be honest, I was a little uncomfortable trying to figure out your thought process.
It's so easy. Practically speaking you need to be around 9 if you want to date in anyway a girl who is around 9 on the attractive scale. If you are less than such girls are out of reach and it pisses you off when you think about it doesn't it. Its similar too watching a Lambo, but you know you don't afford it and so you feel angry, pissed, or sad that you can't have it.
Hell no! At least I get to look and fantasize. I’d get more pissed if there were no beautiful women.
I’m not lesbian but I have seen women who I thought were prettier than me before. I might have felt a bit envious but it didn’t make me feel pissed. People cannot control the way they look too much since looks are mostly genetic.
Too beautiful? Why wouldn't you try to ask out a beautiful woman? That's crazy
You stated "she is too beautiful for you" as if it was a fact. It's not a fact tho. So I don't know why I would be pissed.
Well assume it is a fact, what then?
Why? Not trying to be difficult. I just won't know why I would do that. It seems self harming to do so
If it does not affect you just say that it does not affect you. Simple. No need to complicate this.
how do you know she's too beautiful for you and why does it piss you off?
lol because I know more or less how attractive or not I am, and when they are drop dead gorgeous it is obvious too. So much so that even a baby would realize! Lets not ask why the obvious is obvious shall we.
you're assuming then. you don't "know" they actually don't want you right? you're just gaging from experience which is quite tiny. not saying that to insult this but one can only date so many girls xD like the sample size you have compared to "all the girls" is negligible.
insult you*xD
Thats a sign of ur self esteem taking over ur feelings. With that destructive behavior you might need help. Either you have been hurt or u have bad tendencies.
That's some rapist energy there. If you feel angry over someone's beauty you need to talk to someone. That ain't normal.
I don't get it. Pissed? Why would you feel pissed.
Disappointed, insecure maybe, but pissed? That sounds like a mental issue.
Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate... leads to suffering.
No. Because one universal truth you learn as you age. "No matter how attractive she is, there's a guy somewhere that is tired of her 💩." When you member that you just kind of chuckle to yourself and go on about your day.😆
No, sometimes its nice to just watch a pretty girl and appreciate the beauty of the universe.
No. I've had some very attractive girls interested in me.
Well lucky you. that means they find you attractive.
I'm not pissed, I like it when I see a hot girl... and yes, girls like that are usually too beautiful for me... and I'm too shy to talk to her anyway, unless she makes the first move.
Not really, I can always dream and just beholding her beauty is still nice.
Hot girls are all fine and dandy but I also like average girls with a good personality.
I don't really think about that, I just ask if I want to ask. Sometimes they say yes.
Well if sometimes they say yes, its because you are attractive yourself.
You'd better believe that never happened to handsome Brady !!!
I never feel like this. Not a single girl on the face of this planet is “too beautiful” for me. If anything, I’m too handsome for her ass
No that's just dumb... tell me something son are you a special kind of stupid?
Yes, this drives me nuts.
But are you lesbian? Do you wish to be intimate with beautiful girls?
No, absolutely not.
no i get in to a sexual panic
then just ran away thats what i do
lol..
Not in the slightest
No wtf kind if incel shit is that
Dude how are you going to get a girl who is 9+ if you are like a 7? I am not saying you can't get girls, just not the very attractive ones if you are not also very attractive.
I've never been there so I cannot answer.
You mean there is practically no girl beyond your reach aesthetically?
I think “ohh hi mami” 😍
It's just Art Appreciation.
No they are others
What do you mean?
They are other good looking girls if she is unavailable
Every day thing for me
Yeah it sucks man. It is so unfair. This is why they should advance and employ genetic engineering. Give future generations a good and enjoyable life.
Nope
What do you mean? Are you lesbian or what?
Such a girl does not exist
She will do anything for $$.
Oh really? I did not know that! 🙄
Kinda ya
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