What is it like to be a guy?

[4ngelic]

Said like that it's a pretty vague question, so I'm going to break down what i'd like to know:

• what does it feel like to be in a male body (like having more muscles/strength, a package, facial hair, etc)?
• how are you treated by other men?
• how are you treated by women (in platonic contexts)?
• what is your internal psychology (how do you think/operate, how much emotion do you feel, what are your motivations for your actions/behavior, degree of empathy you have, etc)
• how do you perceive women genuinelly?
• how is it like with women in sexual/romantic contexts? (like is it true it's hard?)

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[ohsheeT]

It would be better if you just asked me questions because I don't know if I can remember everything that you said

What it feels like to be a guy to me it's just normal because that's all I know probably just like you

As for strength and muscles when working depending on what I'm doing but anything physical yes I use them and I make it a workout to stay in shape

If I'm on a job I kind of make it into a game to where I outpace everybody or keep the pace a little bit higher than everybody else's because I like to work out and then I also like to hear guys complain then I'm working too hard or they can't keep up but I've been that way all my life

As for the package it's just a part of the body I mean it's normal I wear tighty whities to hold it in place depending on what I'm doing but it's there but so are my hands in my arms and my legs so it's just a part of me

The only difference is I have to insert my pants to get to it LOL to pull it out to go to the restroom and put it back in and zip it up

As for facial hair I hate shaving everyday because with the hot and cold weather right now it either dries my skin out are saving I get razor burnitis sometimes depending on the weather

As for women girls that I know and even if I don't know them I'm the same person I talk to them is if I know them because I can read people and that really sucks because I act like I know them forever and I haven't known them forever but it's just because I could read them so quickly

And if I know them and somebody says something I will make a smart-ass remark and keep it going because it's funny and we all laugh cuz I love to laugh and love to hear other people love

And all guys know me treat me the same way they know that I'm me they respect that and I have a lot of people come over and ask me things and want me to help them do things I'm pretty good at fixing and putting together things and building things and all my friends know that so they come to me for help if they need it and same with women

No matter what's going on I'm the same person I can look into somebody's eyes and I can tell that they're lying to me or if they're trying to manipulate me and I just let it go I let them try to take it as far as they can because I want to see how far they want to take it or they're going to try and that way I know if I want to be around them or not it doesn't usually last very long if that's the case most people that know me know this and know that I won't tolerate any bullshit

But they also know that I'm going to let them go and hang themselves if that's what they're doing because I just don't have time for it if they have to be that way then they can go someplace else and everybody that knows me knows that

It doesn't matter who you are male or female I can see it in your eyes if there's something going on and depending on who it is I will ask and that's whether even in person or even online I can just feel it or I can see it and I will probably ask if I know you even if I don't know you I will ask what's wrong are you okay because I'm curious I've probably been through it before and I might be able to help see it in a different light a different way

Yeah I don't really know if I answered your question cuz I don't really remember everything but yeah if you wanted to know something just ask me that way I could answer it instead of trying to remember what you asked LOL

But I think all guys are different all women are different we all feel different things and that's what makes us s that's what makes me me

It's just like being with a woman that you really like I'm sure that I'm completely different than most guys because I see it I feel it a lot different I make it all about them because I want them to feel a certain way and it's by touch is by everything and we are all made of energy and if you understand energy and you can feel it it will blow you away because it will take you to different heights of feeling I mean thinking feeling everything becoming one is one of the most beautiful things in the world if you know how to do it because there's a whole deeper meaning to that than what people do when they're with somebody

I cannot just get on top of somebody and hump and pump and be done it just doesn't work that way for me I want to take them to the highest peak and it takes time sometimes because that's what I enjoy doing and I want to feel what they feel as I'm making them feel it if that makes sense yeah you just have to ask me I forget everything else you said

[Anonymous]

1. For starters, I have no other experience to compare it to except for when I was little and was nearly the same as you except that I had a dick and you didn't. Okay, I've got the muscles and the choice to grow facial hair but, if I choose not to, shaving is a pain in the ass. Most of what YOU'VE got to shave is a pretty smooth, roundish surface and the hair doesn't get very dark or thick. I have to get around the jaw, the chin, the neck, under the nose and make all kinds of faces to get it all and it's rarely ever an extremely close shave! I went to work at Cedar Point in `78 and had just started shaving a couple years before and, before you could get your ID badge picture taken you had to be REALLY close-shaven because the lights they used went into your skin and would make even the shortest hairs show up like you hadn't shaved at all. I shaved, they said it wasn't close enough. I shaved again, it still wasn't close enough! I shaved again!, It STILL wasn't close enough for them and I told them that if I stand any closer to my razor, it'll be behind me!! So, they let me go with that.
I know what a pain shaving your legs is because I've done that quite a few times, too! Looks and feels great but it takes at least 45:00!!
Otherwise, at least from my standpoint, being a guy isn't all that great. Getting a girlfriend is next to impossible, you're ONLY allowed to wear a specific type of clothes whereas, girls can wear any damn thing they want. People expect you to act like an adult nearly all the time, even from when you're still in grade school, and other kids are always trying to beat you up just because. Apparently, it's some kind of dick comparison thing! "I beat you up so, my dick is bigger than yours."
2. As I said, as kids, others will try to beat you up for no reason. As adults, they all tend to expect you to be as tough and manly as them and have ALL your shit together like it's just something you should've known how to do from your days in the womb! If you have a good sense of humour and a playful side, they tend to look down on that unless you go into comedy.
At a job, especially in a kind of construction-like field, they expect you to be Mr. Tough guy and no fucking around, everything's dead serious and ANY humour used, or if you're new to that type of work and aren't quite sure what to do yet, will get you treated like a kid.
3. Usually!! Or, you become their emotional tampon. I don't have a problem with trying to help out a girl in dire need and I'll do what I can but, if that's all I'm there for in her eyes, go find someone else to bother.
I had a very close friend, as far as I was concerned. I thought of her as the little sister i never had (Both of my ex-sisters were self-centered, greedy cunts!!) And she was having LOADS of trouble in her life, even talking about suicide once or twice, and I helped her get through all of that. But, as soon as I'd ask her for a small favour a few years later, like, giving me a ride to the store, she'd TELL ME she'd be able to do it but would never show up!! Last summer, I was in dire need of a ride, and she only lives a mile from here!! She said she'd ride me and I waited for hours and she never showed or even bothered to tell me why!! After being friends for 2 years, I just stopped talking to her! By the time of her b-day, a couple months later, I got over it and wished her a happy b-day. No response! I wished er a happy Christmas, no response! So, I guess we're not friends, anymore!!
Also, girls can hug each other, hold hands, hug, dance with each other, primp each other and even kiss, and NOBODY thinks anything of it!! If two guys so much as hug, they're instantly labelled as gay or potentially gay!!
4. I've always been kind, caring, loving, and a bit emotional, mostly BECAUSE I've been alone and/or picked on by others my whole life! I also try to see things from the perspective of others. "Would I like it of someone did this or that to me?" I see animals as other living beings, basically on the same level as humans. I treat them with respect and help them out, if I can. If I had the money, like Elon, I'd love to buy houses for the legitimately homeless!!
5. Kinda like with animals in that, they can't help being what they are any more than we humans can help being what we are. DNA (nature) created us all the way we are. In as such, I kinda see people, for instance, as this brain, so to speak, that's been installed into a specific car that it can never get out of. One car happens to have a female body, another happens to have a male, another happens to be a rabbit, or a bird or a chipmunk or a blade of grass. Basically, a woman's just a human and has the same needs and urges as me but, because she's wired differently, maybe she's got a few others that I don't. Bottom line: she's like me, she just happens to be a woman. Or, I'm just like her, I just happen to be a man.
6. Women tend to "see things" that were never there to begin with and they get EXTREMELY upset and pissed at US for shit that THEY came up with in THEIR OWN heads!! Girl math!! 1 + 1 = 27!! A few decades ago, I was at a small party and was sitting in an open garage with a couple people I just met. Apparently, they were lovers but one was on my right, the other on my left. Suddenly, some girl stepped into the garage from inside the house to ask us all a question like, what we'd want on the pizzas that were being ordered. As she stepped in between both of us guys, she reached her index fingers up under her skater skirt to pull the elastic of her panties out of ass cheeks as girls are won't to do when the straps are digging in. Her ass was facing ME. But, the girl on my right got REALLY pissed at her boyfriend because that girl snapped her panties AT HIM!! HE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT AND SHE WAS JUST ADJUSTING HER UNDERWEAR!! So, the woman started yelling and screaming at HIM because of something someone else did and she ended up breaking up with him right there on the spot because, in her eyes, HE was cheating on her because a girl snaped her panties AT ME!!
Yesterday I was texting with one who, apparently, made some kind of joke and I had no idea she was joking and I just responded to it as just part of the normal conversation and she went off the deep end getting pissed at me for not taking her joke as the joke she intended and claimed I was taking it too seriously! All I was doing was responding calmly to what she said!! And, as this was a typed conversation, there was no inflection on either part to let the other know what was going on! Now, as far as I can tell, she's not even talking to me anymore!!

[NathanDavis]

- what does it feel like to be in a male body (like having more muscles/strength, a package, facial hair, etc)?

How does it feel like to have more musculature? well, I would have to assume that it feels way more heavier and also more robust than being a woman but this, but from a "mechanical" point of view... due to this size and "extra strength" you're just more capable, physically for certain things and as a result of this, we also have to eat more, a lot more than woman eat for sure, lmao, so... "how does it feel to be stronger? it does feel like that... you have to eat a lot more to put out more as well, energy

Facial hair? I really don't know much about that, since I don't really let my hair grow that much to be significant, I can't really speak on that myself... a package though? I sure have one of those, and well... it does feel just as it sound, like you do have a package on your crotch, which you just carry around to everywhere you go, lol... and it's just always there, but also... it's just part of you, not exactly "on you" so most of the time (at least for me) it's not something you really "notice" UNLESS you sit on a way that's not confortable, or if you're wearing something that just doesn't fit comfortable, any restriction... will be felt, because it is a sensitive package as well, and at times, a restless one too, lmao... or, if you get highly active too, gotta keep the junk in the trunk or it will be a bother... I guess it can feel somewhat similar to boobs, for women.

[NathanDavis]

how are you treated by other men?

I am treated in few different ways, and... of course it depends

in depends greatly on context and circumstance... and it can go from just about one of the best experiences you can have in life as a man, and being able to feel, and consider someone "like a brother" to you, but also can be the worst nightmare if they do hate you, for whatever reason they become your enemy and take it to the extremes, and then you have the many situations in between

I do think that a significant difference between women and men... that is conflict and confrontation, because when it comes to men... generally speaking, these do happen in a very direct way (unless they're that type to be passive/aggressive... very insecure so they go indirectly about it) and it can also turn physically, really quick or eventually, but it will end up on a physical fight, men have a tendency to stablish "domination" through attacks and aggressiveness, and this does happen less among women... "if you are a man, you will have to fight yes or yes, or get your ass kicked anyway, if you don't"

and if they're not stupid enough, nor man enough to fight you... they will come to test you, lol... which sounds stupid, and yes... it can be that stupid but hey... that's just a part of being a man, you just have to deal with it

[NathanDavis]

how are you treated by women (in platonic contexts)?

Women are for the most part, different in their approach... and by that I mean that, if they don't like they usually stay away from you and that's it, which is a very simple approach and it works quite well, they just avoid you, lol... but if they like you though, then it's just the opposite, they will want to interact with you from time to time, sometimes as much as they can, when they really like you... and it's usually very easy to get along when YOU CAN GET ALONG WITH THEM, as a man (in platonic terms) and as long as things are open and clear too, and this is key because women are often more complex and also way more involved in how they interact with you overall, so, as a man... you have to be way smarter about it and also be more aware about these things, but other than that... it can be a friendship just like any other, except... that women live their lives very differently, and so how you relate to them, is more about the contrast rather than the commonality of being a man

[NathanDavis]

what is your internal psychology (how do you think/operate, how much emotion do you feel, what are your motivations for your actions/behavior, degree of empathy you have, etc)

in more simple terms, a balanced one, or as balanced as possible... and yes, I know that there are these "archetypes" about how men and women are bla bleh bluh and all that, but in my case... I do have the emotions, of course, the empathy, sensibilities and all that, for sure... however, as a man, we filter those a bit differently and also express them in different ways or terms, and preferably, it is best to keep these under control and measured rather than become reactive and possibly destructive, which can be a thing with men, because of tendencies to be more impulsive in let's say, abrupt ways and even display of power, lol.

personally... what I think, what I feel and how I act or what I do, have to be as aligned as possible, and as balanced as permissible too... which is not always easy nor plausible, lol, but there's a try, and most of the time, it just works.

motivations can be many, and also depending on context, but to keep it simple, there are two main goals... one is happiness, and the other is efficiency, do what is best for most, and do it for the good of your people, that's it... that's my drive in this life

[NathanDavis]

how do you perceive women genuinely?

no more and no less than my actual experience with the women in my life... the ones in my family, as well as the ones that are my friends and of course, the ones that have been my partners before, my experiences with them have been mostly on the levels of good, and greatly all the way to just fucking amazing so... I do perceive them positively for the most part, but without losing the awareness either over the fact that not all of them are, good news, let's say it that way, lol

which takes me to my second point, I also see women as individuals, because I know first hand and for a fact, that women can have certain things in common, yes... but also, they can all be unique in how they are and they live the womanly ways and experience, so just because you met and knew one woman, that won't mean you know them all nor all about them and so... one at the time, and focus on her as she really is and definitely not as how you would want them to be or idealize them for what they are not

see them genuinely, always

[NathanDavis]

how is it like with women in sexual/romantic contexts? (like is it true it's hard?)

in my personal experience, which is limited to only four girlfriends I ever had... I would not say that women are "hard nor difficult" because I just never had it difficult with them (I've had it hard, yes... but that's an easy joke I won't make lmao) a better word would be COMPLEX and involved, because this, yes... yes, they are... men are very complex (and so are men) and relationships are also complex as well, but in my case... I have been VERY selective so I just don't get into any situation nor just with anybody like that

such complexity can be navigated very effectively if you just first, go through some check points

if there's a mutual intrigue or interest, go on and find out... if there's a good enough compatibility either by common points or different but complement each other, then go for it... and, if, after you face the first hurdles and points of friction, you both are able to manage it and adjust to one another, compromise and move forward, well how great is that, right? that's all it takes... take the time you need to really get to know someone and how they truly are... make yourself a genuine one and ALLOW THEM to genuinely themselves with you... that's all, falling in love ain't a problem anymore and having a great time with a woman isn't a struggle at all

a challenge, sure? but what isn't a challenge in this life... women, can be and will be the most rewarding of all you ever have, IF YOU ARE WORTHY OF it, and reciprocate as well

[genericname85]

it's pretty much like being a woman except nobody validates you, nobody cares about your traume or about the oppression you're subject to (cause you're the strong gender) and nobody approaches you cause they think you're hot. that's about it.

[genericname85]

trauma*

[MrChinaski]

Fair call. But with 30% higher wages. So...

[genericname85]

@MrChinaski nope. If you correct the difference in income between men and women for all the variables that do predict income (like hours worked a week, time spent in education, profession and probably like a 100 more), you end up with a difference of less than 1% that we still can not explain, however there's no indication that "gender" is actually the cause of that last little percentage we haven't found out yet. Don't fall for the gender pay gap argument. It has always been bullshit cause it's just comparing 2 variables. It has never been a scientifically acceptable argument but somehow in society it is still used by individuals for discussion.

[MrChinaski]

@genericname85 Thank. What paper are you referring to?

[genericname85]

@MrChinaski I'm not referring to one particular paper here. But you can easily find it if you google up "multivariate analysis of income by gender". I have a background in social science, so I have that knowledge from actually doing the science myself. Like I can conduct multivariate analysis of available large scale survey data to show that there's no significant correlation between income and gender if the relevant predictors of income are accounted for.

[genericname85]

Women far more often than men decide to interrupt their career to have a baby. Women also far more often than men decide to only work part time after child upbringing and often in less paying jobs. That causes women to statistically earn less than men. It's their very own decisions. So yes there is "inequality" here by defnition but it's not income inequality or oppression. Inequality in social science just means there's "differences". But the argument used by feminists is that "this is unfair oppression against women", when in reality, that's free will choices of women. And women are happy with making that choice. It's not that they are unhappy as a result of unfair societal pressures.

So the argument isn't "women are paid less for equal work". That's untrue. The reality is: "women do less of the things that predict income, thus they generate less income".

[MrChinaski]

Okay. A paper would be useful. I haven't researched the topic in a while. So I'd like to come back to you with a fully informed view, but let's be honest life moves on and I'm just not going to. In the meantime, this is first on my reading list (free access!!) www.aeaweb.org/articles?id=10.1257/jel.20160995

[genericname85]

@MrChinaski the state of the art is not easily accessible through one overaching study. cause there has not been a huge meta-analysis. and there has not been a unified model design cause this is such a highly complex topic. cause it does vary by the cohort, the region. like the issue is. the smaller you make the researched subgroup, the less representative but accurate it gets. the larger the subgroup, the more representative but the lower the accuracy meaning larger unexplained residuals.

so the base problem is: there's always residuals we can not explain that get larger, the larger scale the research. and having a large residual does not mean "hurr durr women earn less then men". that's what the bullshit spin you always hear in the media. it merely means we don't know what causes the observed difference. we can not with certainty state, that the cause is "gender" (which is what the media claims). that's just false.

so I don't know what to tell you man. if you really wanna read a study that exemplifies how introducing controll variables significantly shrinks the observed disparity, i'll suggest this one:

www.govinfo.gov/.../...-L36_100-PURL-gpo174001.pdf

there's really not one study where you can see that there is no big wage gap, and especially there's none that can track it down to gender or any discrimination mechanisms. so yeah.
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[MrChinaski]

We are easily distracted by women and shiny objects.

[msc545]

It's difficult.