Why is looking big seen as being stronger?

[Vivaldi]

Can't a slim man have more muscle mass than an obese man? Why is looking big seen as being stronger?

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even when my body mass was 22, I was stronger than when my body mass index was 30. It was only fat what made me look big when my body mass index was 30.

Comments are so stupid really. A slim man who has been lifting weight for some time will lift heavier weight than an obese man who has never lifted weight in his life. That obese man doesn't even have what is called the begginner muscle gain since he has never lifted weight in his life.

[Jan1ssary_]

Well, first of all "strenght" isn't about how tall you are or how muscular you are. Strenght is about nourons which are in your muscles, and ofcourse testestorone hormone. If your neuron veins are big and long enough then it means u can lift heavy or beat up people who are bigger than you, no matter what size you are.

Its also testestorone hormones like I said, if u have more testestorones than you are stronger and more energetic than most of people. Like I said height or size haven't got anything to do with strenght, even a 5.7 guy can beat someone who is over 6.0, I saw it with my own eyes aswell. People think big people are much stronger but there isn't something like that.

[Vivaldi]

Ya bir de hiç ağırlık çalışmayan adam istersen 100 kilo olsun, o adam da kas mı var? Gym'e gidince 5 kilo dambıl ile biceps çalışmaya başlayacak o adam :D

[Jan1ssary_]

Aynen herkes de kas var, yoksa nasıl adam normal birsey kaldirirken kaldirsin? Veya birşey yerken kol bukme hareketi yapabilsin? Herkes de kas vardır fakat bizim gibiler de daha çok var çünkü biz çalışıyoruz.. 😎

[Vivaldi]

O kas kasdan sayılmaz ki.

Şişko adam gym'e gidecek 3-5 kilo dambıl ile biceps çalışmaya başlayacak. Sen o adama kaç kilo shoulder press yaptırabilirsin ya da bench press? :D

172 santim boyundayım. 65 kiloyken bile 89 kilo halimden daha güçlüydüm çünkü ağırlık çalışıyordum.

[Vivaldi]

89 kiloyken 3 kilo ile biceps çalışmaya başlamıştım ben :D

[Jan1ssary_]

Zaten kasli olmak güçlü olduğun anlamına gelmez hacı. Gücü veren şey kasin içerisinde ki nöronlar dir. Onlar nekadar uzun ve büyük olursa okadar guclenirsin, onlarida büyütmek için kuvvet antrenmani yaparsın. Kiloya ve boya göre standart bi bench press kilosu var elbet ilk başlayan kişi eğer çok gucsuzseki 10 kg falan bench yapar. Normalde ilk başlayanlar 40-50 kg arası kaldırır.

[Vivaldi]

Testesteron demişken savaş cebecinin bir videosu aklıma geldi. Steroid'le igili bir araştırmayı anlatıyordu. Steroid kullanan bir kişi hiç ağırlık kaldırmasa bile kas kütlesinde artış oluyormuş. İstersen videoyu atabilirim :D

[Jan1ssary_]

Yok saol :D Olabilir tabi steroid ilaç yani nede olsa doğal birsey değil. Testestoron hormonunu düşürür birde.

[NJ_Casanova]

True.. most skinny guys can actually lift a high % of their own weight.

It's all about visual impression... just like how a big dog looks more dangerous.. when you actually have a great chance of getting attacked by a small dog.

[Autumn-Bunny]

This kid is awesome!
www.mountrantmore.com/.../Fat-Kid-Flexing.jpg

[Chico_brah]

Taller and bigger men are sought out to be stronger, because they actually are. A 150lb kid with abs and pretty muscles standing at 10% bodyfat wouldn't be able to bench press anywhere near the same weight as a 250lb man that carries 30% bodyfat.

[Vivaldi]

So an obese man who never lifts weight is stronger?

[Chico_brah]

Dude I'm talking about in general here. Yes if it came down to it to an experiement of a 150 lbs guy at 10 percent bodyfat and a 250lb at 30 percent body who both don't lift at all, the bigger guy will be able to lift more.

[Vivaldi]

An obese man who never lifted weight in his life can't bench press anything.

[Chico_brah]

What the fuck are you even saying? I don't know if you are being an asshole or just stupid at this point.

[Vivaldi]

I am saying an obese man who never lifted weight in his life will start with very light weights even if he is obese.

[TheAlphaWolf0225]

lol I don't know if I agree with this. I've seen skinny dudes who can deadlift 500lb. And I've seen big fat dudes who can't deadlift 135lb. Strength is a combination of neuromuscular strength and progressive overload.

[TheAlphaWolf0225]

I think it's like an optical illusion where we think a big guy is strong. But a skinnier guy can in fact have stronger muscles than a fat guy

[Vivaldi]

Because that fat man never lifted weight in his life. He will start with very light weight when he goes to the gym.

[TheAlphaWolf0225]

What's his goal?

[Vivaldi]

What do you mean?

[TheAlphaWolf0225]

Does he wanna lose weight, get ripped or build muscle and be bulky? Or does he just wanna be skinny?

[Vivaldi]

The point is that a slim man that has been lifting weight for some time can lift heavier weight than an obese man who has never lifted weight in his life.

[TheAlphaWolf0225]

Yes that's true

[Puppylove94]

Lmao because the 2 are associated. Duh

[Chico_brah]

Lol was thinking the same thing. Logic bruh.

[Vivaldi]

So having more fat makes somebody stronger?

[Puppylove94]

Read @chico_brah's opinion. He talks about that

[Chico_brah]

Look at power lifters and their bodyfat percentages. Most professional power lifters are very high in body fat in comparison to bodybuilders. Yes carb loading and bodyfat does play a huge role into strength.

[Vivaldi]

A man who doesn't lift weight don't have muscle no matter how big he is. It is just fat.

[Chico_brah]

Everyone has muscle.

[Puppylove94]

True but still a guy with fat has more muscle than a scrawny dude. He won't have any endurance.. but he's lifting his extra body fat around all day. There are a lot of factors to take into consideration.

[Vivaldi]

A slim man who lifts weight is stronger than an obese man who doesn't lift weight.

[Puppylove94]

Not always. Like I said. There are a lot of factors to take into consideration.

[Vivaldi]

Allright. Let's eat hamburgers, never lift weight and become obese.

[Chico_brah]

Dude you're coping right now. I've seen your questions on here about lifting and not gaining muscle lol. I gave you advice and you obviously never followed it.

[Puppylove94]

That's not healthy lol but you do you

[Smmyskittles]

@Vivaldi - Deal. I'll buy the first round of hamburgers.

[Vivaldi]

I am 69 kilograms now and I am stronger than when I was 89 kilograms. I was only obese. I did not have any strength.

[Vivaldi]

This is so stupid. An obese man who never lifted weight in his life don't have any strength.

[Smmyskittles]

@Vivaldi - If I feed you a hamburger would it shut you up?

[Puppylove94]

Why do you ask questions if you think you already know the answer? Bye

[Vivaldi]

It is so stupid to think this way.

[Vivaldi]

@Smmyskittles

Are you a troll? It makes no sense to see a fat man who has never lifted weight in his life stronger.

[Smmyskittles]

@Vivaldi - Troll like a tiny green monster? Do I look like a tiny green monster? I'm extremely offended!

& You're missing the point about what they're saying. It's boring and repetitive.

[Vivaldi]

@Smmyskittles

Strong men lifts weight. They are not ordinary obese men. An obese man who has never lifted weight in his life will start with very light weights when he goes to gym. All he has is fat.

[Puppylove94]

What dont you get? If you have 50+ extra pounds on your body.. that's like lifting 50+ pounds everywhere you go, every second of the day. So yes, he will be stronger than a guy who is scrawny and doesn't lift as long as he isn't just sitting on a couch all day. Now I can't tell you if he'd be stronger than the skinny guy who lifts cause i dk how much or how often he lifts. Now that I've elaborated the things you need to take into consideration... do you finally get it? Jesus.

[Chico_brah]

Dude you are fucking autistic stop spamming my notifications

[Vivaldi]

I am at 69 kilograms now and I can lift heavier weight than when I was 89 kilograms. Why then?

[Puppylove94]

KBye

[Vivaldi]

Why can't you answer that?

[Ahrixxa]

nope

[Vivaldi]

You mean a slim man cannot have more muscle mass than an obese man?

[Vivaldi]

It is strange that you think this way. A slim man who lifts weight would have more muscle mass than an obese man who never lifted weight in his life. Gaining fat alone does not make you lift heavier weight. There is no reason for his body to gain muscle since he does not lift weight.