What do ANTI-VAXXERS have to say about Trump getting the vaccine himself back in March?

[Still-alive]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trumps-coronavirus-vaccines-white-house-in-january

thays righhht you anti-vaxxers your lord and savior got himself Vaccinated. Your thoughts?

Wow he did? Well im cured now! im no longer an Anti-Vaxxer. Im a pro vax now because he got it

he's a traitor! I no longer support Trump over this

Its all a Hoax! Fox News is lying!

Well he got it because the propaganda machine clearly got to him!

Im not an anti-vaxxer, i just wanna see people shit themselves over learning this lols 😂

Im an anti-vaxxer and never supported Trump anyways so no effect on me!

Just show me results dammit!

Updates

+1 y

Correction he got the vaccine in January but didn't admit he got it until march! Excuse me

Updates

+1 y

So either:
A: You support Trump despite the fact he clearly is a pro vaxxer

B: Trump betrayed you because he got the Vaccine therefore why support him anymore?

C: Fox news is part of a broader conspiracy and can no longer be trusted with the truth

Which is it my dudes? Gotta pick one!

[supercutebutt]

Trumptards are the dumbest creatures on planet Earth.

[Still-alive]

read that huge crack pot reply chrissy gave me lol

[Crissy_J]

Yet, you were the idiot who kept replying within seconds of my post.

[420Rachel]

I'm just here to witness the madness. 👀

[Still-alive]

*Pours the popcorn out into a bowl*

[demonics]

Your world view requires Trump supporters to be cultists. When that belief doesn't come to fruition you... lash out? Traitor to whom exactly? Do you realize how ridiculous you sound? It actually sounds like simple projection to me. For it was the left that said "I'M nOT gEtTinG TrUmpS vaCCinE!" And now here they are... legit threatening people who don't get it like its a freaking Jim Jones special recipe. Get some effing help. You took... well they told you to take a meme seriously "God Emperor" and here you are literally projecting that MEME onto real people...

With trust in media, as well as viewership at an all time low, it begs the question... what kind of people are STILL tuning in? For Maddow to go from 1.5 million viewers a night down to 350k... who are the folks still watching and where did the 1.25 million go? Maybe its people like YOU that are in a cult...

And speaking of Fox News, what an EPIC miscalculation to make a leftward lurch with their talent (in order to acquire The Sun) they didn't expect to be unable to shake their assigned moniker of "Fox lies" or "faux news." Its actually a quite bittersweet irony lol.

[Still-alive]

""I'M nOT gEtTinG TrUmpS vaCCinE!" " who said this and when?

"legit threatening people who don't get it" because this decision is getting people killed... want me to break out the stats like i did with the others here?

" well they told you to take a meme seriously "God Emperor" and here you are literally projecting that MEME onto real people..."

well thats basically what he is to trumpers... look what happened on jan 6th... no wait don't cause you'll say he didn't directly tell them to take the election back by force when there's clear undeniable evidence now that he totally did.

As for your last point. are you saying you don't trust fox news?

[demonics]

(100% recognize that I'm wasting my time, much of the pertinent information has been scrubbed from the internet, and people like you are in too deep to convinced otherwise)

"who said this and when?"
www.businessinsider.com/kamala-harris-rejects-a-coronavirus-vaccine-from-trump-2020-10
apnews.com/.../health-election-2020-donald-trump-elections-virus-outbreak-8790eda23e94aec7cf7b4beaaa67ceaf
www.reuters.com/.../democrat-biden-warns-against-rushing-out-coronavirus-vaccine-says-trump-cannot-be-trusted-idUSKBN2671NW

[demonics]

(2)
"because this decision is getting people killed"
1. Their body their choice.
2. Comorbidities are overwhelmingly responsible
3. Case numbers vs death numbers switcharoo.
4. Inflation of death numbers by linking asymptomatic covid infections to deaths from other causes including trauma. Literal MVA deaths being ruled covid deaths...

"Look what happened on jan 6th"
what exactly happened on January 6th? The senior citizen tour of the capitol building? Or the combined efforts of antifa members and the feds to frame those senior citizens and NOT A ONE of them being charged. NOTHING stated by the media actually occurring hat day from Sicnick being "beaten to death with a fire extinguisher" to the "armed rioters" can be trusted. It actually blows my mind how lies this big can be exposed and people STILL trust the media. I guess until they do it to you! Like that Buzzfeed article claiming a man was killed over a Popeye's chicken sandwich... Come to find out there was a prior beef between the two and culminated in one of them getting shot in the restaurant (according to the victims brother) but "got shot over a chicken sandwich" sounded better, and they refused to interview the brother and correct the story.

[demonics]

(3)

"say he didn't directly tell them to take the election back by force when there's clear undeniable evidence now that he totally did."

The 2nd impeachment trial, wherein dems were caught red handed editing footage of Trumps speech proving he didn't order anyone to storm the capitol proved that. He wasn't even finished speaking when antifa and undercover feds (aided by capitol police) are ushered into the building.
www.newsweek.com/fact-check-was-impeachment-video-edited-remove-trumps-call-peace-before-riot-1568084
www.cnn.com/.../...se-pro-trump-riots-lead-vpx.cnn ("selfie with a *rioter*") LOL!
nypost.com/.../
(Imagine reading a story like this ^ then finding out most of the people in the video were actually feds, or brown shirts. Any sentient person would immediately think Reichstag! And CNN hosts are comparing it to 9/11 LOL! Do you think they laugh their asses of once the cameras stop rolling?)

"are you saying you don't trust fox news"
No, my point still stands, that YOU are in fact, in a cult. Have a nice day.

[Still-alive]

well it is reasonable, after all Trump was the guy who told people to inject bleach into your veins...

[Still-alive]

"1. Their body their choice."

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life,"

You are robbing people the basic right to LIFE by choosing to not vaccinate yourself

" Comorbidities are overwhelmingly responsible " citation needed. because i see this AFTER people are vaccinated not before

" Case numbers vs death numbers switcharoo." citation needed

" Inflation of death numbers by linking asymptomatic covid infections to deaths from other causes including trauma. Literal MVA deaths being ruled covid deaths..."

Citation needed

"antifa members"

antifa wasn't there at all lol. " the FBI directly refuted the conspiracy theory, saying there is "no indication" that antifa — a decentralized collection of far-left groups and individuals — was involved. To date, no one who has since been charged in the attack appears to have any connection to the anti-fascist movement either."

www.npr.org/.../antifa-didnt-storm-the-capitol-just-ask-the-rioters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWJVMoe7OY0&t=469s

We all no he did say the words 'peaceful' but come on dude he only said to save his own ass. he knew exactly what he was doing and what he wanted his followers to do. i suggest you watch this new york times documentary carefully to get it

[Still-alive]

are you trying to pass those last two links off as saying the rioters weren't rioters? you know how dumb that makes you sound right?

those two cops obviously believed in what the rioters were doing.

[TheSpaceGnome]

1. Most people against this vaccine aren't against all vaccines, and thus aren't "anti vaxxers".


2. Most people against this, or any vaccine, always thought trump was an idiot, And people who trust this vaccine to work are more likely to be trump supporters than those who do not.


3. Fox news is garbage, as is all mainstream news stations, and is usually followed by people who trust authorities, not people who question them.


4. The covid 19 vaccine doesn't actually work. Nor does the covid 19 test.


5. There have been court hearings about the vaccine not getting human trials, and it and killing non human animal test subjects during testing, and it killing humans after being released to the public, its a big deal.


6. I personally know people who took the vaccine, and repeatedly landed in the hospital afterward as a result of that.

[Still-alive]

“ The covid 19 vaccine doesn't actually work. Nor does the covid 19 test.”

Citation needed bro

[TheSpaceGnome]

Look it up yourself, or ask genericname85 for citation sources.

Too busy unpacking/moving furniture atm to track down the video of the court hearing or the study results again (the net keeps deleting them).

Test is 23% accurate, you cannot determine vaccine effectivness when 1. you skip human trials, and 2. you base success of the vaccine on negative or positive results with an accuracy that low.

[Still-alive]

ok then until you actually provide the source i will not listen to you. i also have tons of other sources claiming its pretty damn effective soooo why should i believe your sources over those?

i provided wmd which is pretty neutral on another answer here.

[TheSpaceGnome]

you're in luck, for some reason this wasn't deleted off bitchute yet, but yeah the rest of the research you gotta do yourself ya lazy bum www.bitchute.com/.../

[TheSpaceGnome]

mnra is the maderna covid vaccine

[TheSpaceGnome]

mrna*

[Still-alive]

lol bitchute... yeah thats not shady at all lmao

and your ad hominem is notable. guess you never took a class on how arguments work?

you make the claim YOU provide the evidence to back it up. its not up to me to do that. its you who does that.

anyways this video is bogus dude. how about some actual scientific studies? peer reviewed? stuff like that?

[TheSpaceGnome]

that video has been everywhere, youtube, facebook, MSN, everywhere, its part of a court hearing, and the only thing shady about it is the fact that that portion of it has been removed from every other copy of that video (they edited that section out to censor it). just watch the video.

[TheSpaceGnome]

Well if you don't want your a character attacked, don't act like you are more informed than you are, and don't post character attacking questions.

That vaccine put my mom in the hospital 3 times, and my friend who took it got covid afterward anyway. And I actually bothered to do research instead of making character attacking stereotypes like you did.

[TheSpaceGnome]

the video isn't bogus, and peer review calls the vaccine into question with possible lawsuit implications, which is why most of the doctors i talk to say to not take it.

[Still-alive]

looks like this thing has long been debunked by now

www.reuters.com/.../uk-factcheck-mice-idUSKBN2A22UW

VERDICT

False. Animals vaccinated in the 2012 study referred to in this video did not die when exposed to a live virus and the research did not involve mRNA vaccines, according to the lead author of the study referenced.

[Still-alive]

"why most of the doctors i talk to say to not take it. "

anecdote fallacy

[TheSpaceGnome]

lol you believe reuters.

Do you use snopes too? lol

Don't use website tabloids or fact checker sites, they are full of shit most of the time.

[Still-alive]

since i knew you were gonna attack reuters: here's an unbiased source fullfact.org/online/covid-vaccine-animal-testing/

"Had the animals died during this process, he said, the human trials would have been immediately halted. The fact that they were not indicates the animals did not die unexpectedly.

He also said animals used in drug trials are usually euthanized, so scientists can examine their internal organs for signs of pathology"

you want more sources debunking this? i got more. not just snopes either.

[TheSpaceGnome]

Not fallacy, most doctors I've talked to say it's not worth taking because it doesn't prevent the infection, and the only people at high risk from covid are also people at high risk for the vaccine's side effects.

[Still-alive]

it is a fallacy. you could just pull that out of your ass for all i know. i want actual sources from you. NOT anecdotes. stop embarrassing yourself

[TheSpaceGnome]

thats still a tabloid, debunk it with google scholar's lab result studies if you want me to change my mind, and provide one that has sound methodology, and isn't debunked by another study about testing effectiveness.

[Still-alive]

here is a pro science site healthfeedback.org/.../

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/health-feedback/

[Still-alive]

"thats still a tabloid, debunk it with google scholar's lab result studies if you want me to change my mind, and provide one that has sound methodology, and isn't debunked by another study about testing effectiveness."

lol where the hell is YOUR google scholar article?

[TheSpaceGnome]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy) just saying.

Either way since you can't be bothered to back up your own claims sufficiently, mine is delayed, first I would need to look up the specific titles for each covid 19 vaccine again, then I would need to spend hours or days finding the right study results because some conflict with others or leave out info, and some don't list methods used, and some mention illogical methods or previously debunked hypothesis as foundations, and then I would need to cross reference them with test effectoveness studies, to which takes just as long, and then I would need to gather hospitilazation count data.

And again, I'm unpacking and moving furniture, and only had time to type this because I was resting for a bit cuz furniture is fucking heavy.

I'm pausing this convo for now and I will pick it back up when I'm not swamped in stuff to do.

[Still-alive]

"just saying."

just saying what? that you suck at arguing? awesome

[TheSpaceGnome]

You're a troll.

[Still-alive]

nope. feel free to come back and attempt to debunk the sources i provided.

ONE source against all other sources by the way does not help support your claim here. i have sooo many more.

[Crissy_J]

Who cares if Trump got the vaccine? That’s his personal business. I only make health decisions based off of my personal beliefs. If I want to go get the Covid shot, I’ll go get it. If I don’t, I won’t. Doesn’t matter if the current President or former President pushes it. If I like a politicians policies or not makes no difference what they say about vaccines they’re not experts in that field.

[Still-alive]

So Trump is a Traitor?

[Crissy_J]

How do you know if these politicians pushing the Covid shots, Trump included, didn’t get placebo shots? You don’t know. Trust nobody.

[Still-alive]

So You don't trust Trump? got it.

[Crissy_J]

Get help with your unhealthy obsession with Trump. There’s lots of other politicians you should be concerned with.

[Still-alive]

im only concerned because soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo many others think he's the 2nd coming. glad you aren't one of those.

[Crissy_J]

I know a lot of Trump voters. They’re all cool people. I also know people who voted for Biden. They’re also cool people. Anyway, I try to keep a level head about politics and keep to myself.

[Still-alive]

but then you deny vaccines. whats level head about that?

[Crissy_J]

The shot is still in experimental phase, so why rush? Lol you may think you need it, but you have to respect other peoples right to choose. If they don’t want it, that’s their right. Come on, now.

[Still-alive]

"The shot is still in experimental phase"

wrong

[Still-alive]

" you have to respect other peoples right to choose. If they don’t want it, that’s their right"

no i don't have to respect it AND your decision is getting people killed. :)

[Crissy_J]

LOL the shot is in an experimental phase and NOT approved by the FDA as of now. Stop being a drama Queen. Yes, Covid is soooooo deadly it only has a 98.9% survival rate, that’s all. It’s soooo deadly it didn’t even wipe out Skid Row in filthy LA at its peak. The only people I’d say are at risk, are the ones who are constantly at risk of dying anyway, and that’s the old and people with pre-existing conditions. Just ask Cuomo about his nursing home scandal and how that went. Anyway, what I don’t understand is why people aren’t demanding these labs that create viruses aren’t held accountable. U think this really started with bat soup? Turn your Tel-LiE-vision off and enjoy life minus the ProGraMmed fear mongering. Fear is big business. LOL “your decision is getting people killed!!!” Oh lord. Look at it this way, if the grim reaper is following you around anyway, there’s no way Big Pharma’s experimental shot is going to save you. You can’t cheat death. Stop hating on people who don’t believe what you believe.

[Still-alive]

Wow you’re pathetic. And dont get how this all works.

[supercutebutt]

@crissy_j Since you like numbers so much, how about this number:
99.5% of COVID-19 deaths in the US are now in unvaccinated people, CDC head says
(Jul 9, 2021)

Just get vaccinated you knucklehead. You aren't impressing anybody.

[Still-alive]

@supercutebutt she delete my replies like the coward she is.

[Crissy_J]

Nobody deleted your replies, you authoritarian loving bigot.

[Crissy_J]

Ha! Being called “pathetic” by a bigot like yourself is a compliment. Keep kissing the nanny states ass and just go about your business. If your so-called vaccine works, don’t worry about the ones who refuse the Covid shot.

[Crissy_J]

@supercutebutt How many deaths are included in that 99.5%? Are you going to actually give any real numbers? Throwing out a percentage doesn’t say much if you don’t include how many deaths you’re referring to. Besides you don’t have any proof whatsoever these people died of Covid and didn’t have other problems. Keep eating up the lies, and leave the rest of the people who can think for themselves alone. Nobody cares if you got the shot. You’re not considered smart for going along with the agenda.

[Still-alive]

sciblogs.co.nz/.../

"The vaccines were developed fast, but not recklessly

The science behind these vaccines is not completely new. The plug-and-play platforms such as the viral-vectors and mRNA were already available and had already been tested in humans. All that needed to happen to prepare a vaccine candidate for human trials was to plug in the instructions to make the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein. The technology was ready and waiting. Human data was available for all of these vaccine platforms, including previous coronaviruses such as MERS and SARS.

Getting a vaccine through a series of human trials to assess efficacy and safety has traditionally taken some years. This is for the following reasons:

Money – the process costs in the order of billions and if the product does not work or there is not a big enough market then it will be a financial disaster
Reliance on Big Pharma – Relying on big pharma to fund financially risky adventures such as vaccine development left us vulnerable but no one else would do it.
Recruiting participants to studies – It can take years to recruit sufficient participants into a vaccine trial.
Accruing enough events in a vaccine trial to demonstrate that the vaccine works
Regulatory agencies weighed down with bureaucracy that move at a snail’s pace.

These obstacles were first overcome a few years ago in order to get an Ebola vaccine to Africa so COVID-19 is not the first example of this kind of speed. The Ebola vaccine candidates were sitting ready to go on a shelf so when push finally came to shove the clinical studies were completed within a year. Saying that vaccines normally take years is very true, and that is a bad thing not a good thing. Our traditional model was terrible, and it has cost many lives over the years.

Speed, not haste, is saving many lives."

[Crissy_J]

😴zzzzz

[Crissy_J]

You’re still a bigot. I bet you spent four years calling a specific person bigot when you’re a lot worse. Lol enjoy the rest of your day, hater.

[Still-alive]

www.webmd.com/.../almost-all-us-covid-19-deaths-now-in-the-unvaccinated

"Almost All U. S. COVID-19 Deaths Now in the Unvaccinated"

If you, a friend or a loved one remain unvaccinated against COVID-19 at this point – for whatever reason – you are at higher risk for dying if you do become infected.

That's the conclusion of a new report The Associated Press released looking at COVID-19 deaths during May 2021.

Of more than 18,000 people who died from COVID-19, for example, only about 150 were fully vaccinated. That's less than 1%.

"Recently I was working in the emergency room [and] I saw a 21-year-old African- American who came in with shortness of breath," says Vino K. Palli, MD, a doctor specializing in emergency medicine, internal medicine and urgent care."

[Still-alive]

how am i a bigot? hmmm i don't remember being intolerant of most people... well ok im intolerant of ignorance i guess... especially the willful kind that gets people killed

[supercutebutt]

@crissy_j How do we know you aren't a Russian or Chinese troll spreading disinformation to kill Americans? I mean, what would be your motivation to spread bullshit like this?

[Crissy_J]

You’re intolerance of people who think different than you makes you a bigot. You clearly have trouble understanding that in America we have individual freedom of choice especially when it comes to our health. Spewing hate against people who choose to not get the shot has been so mainstream, you’re literally blind to your own bigotry lol.

[Still-alive]

i hate people who get others killed. why should i not hate people like that? so its not ok to be bigoted or intolerant of people who are ok with killing other people?

[Crissy_J]

@supercutebutt my ability to think for myself has triggered you. How many people have tested positive for Covid and didn’t even know they had it? How many had mild or no symptoms at all? These are hard facts, you choose to ignore because you’re brainwashed beyond belief. Anyway, enjoy your Operation Warp Speed “vaccine” courtesy of Daddy Donald J Trump. Lol

[supercutebutt]

Your rights end where mine begin. So it is not your "right" to spread disease. Get vaccinated, doof. :)

[Levin]

These sorts of people would have pushed the nazi agenda 80 years ago.

689 people died of covid in the UK since March 2021 who were under 60 and without any co-morbities. 1600 die in the UK every day. The average age of death with covid is a year higher than the average life expectancy.

Taking experimental medical treatments still in clinical trials = death. It's that simple really.

[Levin]

Sorry, I mean up to March 2021.

[Still-alive]

@Levin "Taking experimental medical treatments still in clinical trials = death. It's that simple really."

guess you missed the links i provided because this is obviously dead wrong lol.

don't take the vaccine = death actually

[loves2learn]

I am not an anti-vaxxer nor am I a Trump supporter.

[Still-alive]

*high five* ✋

[loves2learn]

✋🏻✋🏻

[exitseven]

Why wouldn't President Trump take the vaccine? It was his administration that made this life saving treatment available to everyone.

[Still-alive]

Because he was saying how he shouldn't take it or saying things like injecting bleach will help.

[exitseven]

If he said it all it was taken out of context just like the sound bite about injecting bleach. If the whole thing was shown on the news everyone would have known that.

[Still-alive]

so you voted C then? its all a hoax? fox news isn't to be trusted? or D the 'propaganda' machine got to him so he had to take the vaccine?

[exitseven]

I picked the last option. It made the most sense.

[DianaWest]

so cute. the big box on the wall told me mommy, so it must be so.

[Still-alive]

the big box told you not to get vaccinated? no wonder. stop listening to random boxes

[anylolone]

Have you tried talking to them instead of strawmaning them?
One, the biggest population of reluctant are DNC blacks, trump's involvement in the vaccine is a reason not to take it.
Trump supporters who are reluctant just think he rushed it to give the portion of the population who wanted the vaccine, well, what they wanted in order to get them to stop panicking.
And that he took it to show he believes in it, or not to wear a mask, their opinions on that varies..

[Still-alive]

" Have you tried talking to them instead of strawmaning them?"

yes! several times

"Trump supporters who are reluctant just think he rushed it to give the portion of the population who wanted the vaccine, well, what they wanted in order to get them to stop panicking.
And that he took it to show he believes in it, or not to wear a mask, their opinions on that varies.. "

wow you sound like a conspiracy nut lol. so he took a vaccine he doesn't even believe in because thats what a portion of his followers want?

[doopayo]

Lmao I remember when I think ivanka or what’s her name got the vaccine and promoted it on her Instagram, all her fans got mad and dragged her in the comments 😭it was hella entertaining

[summiter]

Trump is and has been a complete idiot and an international embarrassment. I just wish he would go away and get put on a ventilator

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

I'm not an anti-vaxxer, I just wanna see people shit themselves over learning this lols 😂

[menina]

Wait, what? 😂😂😂😂😂
I'm pretty sure he lost a lot of supporters 😂😂😂😂

[Anonymous]

Wheres the option for idgaf what trump does I’m not trump

[Still-alive]

so you also agree then that he's a huge hypocrite and shouldn't be followed?

[Opinion Owner]

I don’t follow politicians... they are all crooks

[Opinion Owner]

He’s miles smarter and more adept than Biden but honestly idgaf they are all crooks

[Anonymous]

I never supported Trump. Plus I don't take experimental medicines. So I will remain unvaccinated.

[Still-alive]

ok you'll continue killing people with this decision.

[Opinion Owner]

Who am I killing? This kind of rhetoric is hyperbolic and doesn't allow for honest discussion or critical thinking.

[Still-alive]

"Almost All U. S. COVID-19 Deaths Now in the Unvaccinated"

If you, a friend or a loved one remain unvaccinated against COVID-19 at this point – for whatever reason – you are at higher risk for dying if you do become infected.

That's the conclusion of a new report The Associated Press released looking at COVID-19 deaths during May 2021.

Of more than 18,000 people who died from COVID-19, for example, only about 150 were fully vaccinated. That's less than 1%.

"Recently I was working in the emergency room [and] I saw a 21-year-old African- American who came in with shortness of breath," says Vino K. Palli, MD, a doctor specializing in emergency medicine, internal medicine and urgent care."

www.webmd.com/.../almost-all-us-covid-19-deaths-now-in-the-unvaccinated

[Opinion Owner]

That may be true but you didn't show how my decision to not get vaccinated is killing people. Especially when I socially distance wear a mask, wash my hands properly, and still haven't even gotten the original strain of Covid. Let alone the variants. And it isn't like I haven't been in close quarters with Covid positive individuals. Never mind that the death rate for Covid-19 is 0.1% for all people. Which is the same as most varieties of the Flu. Sure Covid is more viraliant than the Flu. But we act like Covid is an automatic death sentence when it isn't even close to that. While ignoring the deaths caused by the various Flus. As if it doesn't kill anyone. Then of course if I were to ever get Covid, you act like I will be going out and hobnobbing with all the other unvaccinated people. As if I was Chris Cuomo. Or hanging out in retirement homes like Gov. Whittmer or Gov. Cuomo sent me there. When in reality I will be hanging out on my bed drinking plenty of fluids and getting bed rest. Also it is worth pointing out that at this point anyone in America who wants the vaccine has it. So if anyone dies because I am unvaccinated has chosen to take their chances with the virus over the vaccine. Just like I have chosen if they get me infected and I die. Death lurks around every corner. I could be hit by a truck tomorrow. There are currently 18 things that have a higher daily death toll in America than Covid-19's current weekly death toll. And that includes other diseases. Stop fearmongering and guilting people to do what you want them to and go live your own life. Stop trying to dictate how I should live mine.

[Still-alive]

you are aiding in helping kill people and also spreading information. thats getting people killed

you can see in that medical neutral link i gave you that the virus only seems to affect those who are unvaccinated now... so yes you and those around you and the people you manage to get to listen to you all suffer the consequences of you choosing to remain unvaccinated. you killer. :)

[Opinion Owner]

The only information that I am spreading is that people should be allowed to make their own choices in life. The free flow of ideas in the cornerstone of a free society. If you want to live in an authoritarian dictatorship go to Cuba. But here in America we have Informed Consent Laws that prohibit the forced or coerced usage of experimental medicines. And your statements are tantamount to coercion and are thusly a violation of these laws. Which exist to protect people from being used as Guinea pigs and protect the scientific process as all drug studies need a control group.

[Still-alive]

"people should be allowed to make their own choices in life"

and as you can clearly see from the link this decision is costing people their lives. i guess you don't care about the "right to life" part in the declaration of independence huh? if you did, you'd get the damn vaccine already and stfu

[Chriscunning]

Well, the virus has more chances to mutate as it would. The more people infected = higher chance of a mutation that can escape the vaccinated population. It's also not a matter of chance, but a matter of when. So you playing your part in creating a super virus that will kill many people.

[MudRucker]

People make choices every day that can lead to someone's death.

[SmokinAces2000]

Fuck Trump I’m not getting the vaccine because I personally do not trust the government that’s the only thing I kinda agree with with Trump supporters

[supercutebutt]

The government needs you alive to collect your taxes, you doofus. Use your brain! Unless you want to die so your tombstone can say, "Fuck you, government! I resisted your life-saving, free vaccine!"

[Anonymous]

All white people should be forced to get the vaccine
Plus a few other groups.

They make up around 70% of population

[ThePolishKnight37]

If you heard it on Fox it is probably a lie. lol

[Still-alive]

So fox news is bad?

[ThePolishKnight37]

Hey hate Trump and he hates them

[SmokinAces2000]

Fox loves Trump tf

[OddBeMe]

Trump was fighting the pedo Demo-rats and needed the vaccine for cover!

[ItsMeItsMe1989]

no use arguing with trumpers and anti vaxxers

they're too set in their ways, to give a crap

[MudRucker]

Your posting this in July?

Most Trump supporters knew about him getting the vacine as soon as he got it.

So what was the question?

[Still-alive]

What do you have to say about it? you just fine with him getting the vaccine? Even though he kept saying he didn't trust it?

[MudRucker]

Biden and Kamala Bambala said they would never trust a vaccine developed under the Trump administration.

So what is you point?

[Still-alive]

refusing to answer... typical

[MudRucker]

I'll answer as soon as you ask a real question based on facts not your hatred of Trump.

[Still-alive]

nah. you know what you're doing. ill not engage you

[darkcloud1945]

He made his choice to get the shot just as it is you choice to get the shot or not. What is all the bullshit about he made his choice you make yours.

[Chriscunning]

@mudrucker Biden got the vaccine on live television?

[Joshua0213]

Why should I care what a random dude does? It doesn't affect my decision in the slightest

[Still-alive]

but its Trump, the king!

[Joshua0213]

Thats gross, he was only president, no king

[ShadezMcgee]

Already knew he had it. Don't care either way.