Now that Pfizer is FDA approved, are you going to get the Covid shot now?

[Pterodon]

[BCA6010]

A few points here:

The FDA *NEVER* approves things this quickly. To pretend this wasn't entirely political would be pretty ignorant to the agency's history as well as the history of vaccines. The usual sock puppets have been toting a ~September timeframe for approval and mandates within certain departments of the government for months now. It sounds like this has been a forgone conclusion for a long time despite the efficacy of the Pfizer vaccine being under question for a while now, and the fact it's physically impossible for anything resembling long-term testing to have happened. That's kind of the reason why emergency use authorization was invoked in the first place. Once again, the government swamp is too busy twirling it's moustache to see how badly they're undermining themselves while trying to be clever. Or, they bumped it forward to distract people from the Biden administration's plummeting approval in the wake of the Afghanistan withdrawal disaster. According to basically every poll that asks people outside of a CNN news room, Covid is about the only subject that the administration is still viewed somewhat favorably with. Therefore it shouldn't surprise anyone that government shills and even the neocons don't want to talk about anything else anymore.

The type of people who believe the government can't be trusted, which is close to 100% of people who haven't gotten the jabs yet, don't give a damn what the FDA has to say anyway. Clearly most people who have gotten vaccinated weren't interested in waiting for the FDA either. At the end of the day, nobody really cares what the FDA has to say on this matter except to confirm their preexisting opinions and try to use it as a cudgel in arguments. qThe US Constitution does not bend the knee to the FDA. Their approval does not change the fact that the federal government does not have the power to enforce a nationwide mandate. At most, it may embolden some major companies and business owners to implement policies that basically require employees to show proof of vaccination as a requisite for employment. It is worth mentioning however that there might be enough squish republicans in the house and Senate to actually pass an amendment to the US Constitution that would allow for creating a mandatory vaccination law, and other laws like it.

[Celtero]

Nobody who hasn't gotten it yet is ever going to at this point. They have an inflated sense of self-importance and they're convinced that the government wants to kill them for some reason. They aren't smart enough to comprehend the science that makes the vaccine make sense. They disregard that we're politician's tax cattle that pays for their mansions and yachts and are who voted them into office. They all know an unhealthy or dying person who got the vaccine who probably was just as unhealthy or dying prior to getting it. I mean... J&J had a scare where maybe 4 people had a nerve disorder as a result of the vaccine and they pulled it immediately. Suuure, the government wants to kill us...

And to be fair, there isn't exactly a reason to get vaccinated when everybody wants to continue with the mask bullshit regardless. Now they're just adding on further layers of annoyance if you aren't vaccinated, such as additional weekly testing. My professor was bellyaching about the masks because he has small children and his mom has cancer and it's like... bro, maybe the cancer should be the thing you're worried about, not maybe covid.

This whole thing just makes me understand that I hate everyone much more than I originally thought.

[FoghornLeghorn99]

Real vaccines actually keep a person from getting infected from a specific disease.

Think measles, chicken pox, mumps, etc.

[Celtero]

@FoghornLeghorn99 Maybe you should do some research. You can catch all those even if you've been vaccinated against them.

[FoghornLeghorn99]

@Celtero Thousands of breakthrough cases of Covid have been reported.

Why are thousands of other diseases being reported?

[butterflyinthesky]

doesn't mean u can't get it or spread it, just means u will be more likely to not suffer as much with it or die from it, im not vaccinated but been considering it.

[Celtero]

@FoghornLeghorn99 Because we've achieved herd immunity thanks to vaccines for many of those diseases and they're not that prominent anymore. If there were suddenly millions of people with mumps or measles then vaccinated people would start getting it too. Herd immunity is achieved around 75% vaccination rate, and hardly 50% of people have been vaccinated for covid. Meanwhile, 90% of 2 year olds have been vaccinated for measles. We'll eventually achieve herd immunity regardless, because once you've been infected by covid you get natural immunity; covid just has to burn its way through the rest of the population that either hasn't gotten the vaccine or the disease yet.

[FoghornLeghorn99]

@celtero Herd immunity?

Vaccinated people can still get infected. How is that "herd immunity"?

[Celtero]

@FoghornLeghorn99 Look, when we say "immunity" and "immune" it's really a misnomer... because we're referring to the immune system so it'd be much more appropriate to say something like immuno-resistant but that's a bit of a mouthful.

And herd immunity comes in when so many people are resistant to it it makes it very hard for the disease to spread.

You should try using google a bit bud. They don't pay me to teach you basic immunology.

[FoghornLeghorn99]

@Celtero Nah!!! I won't waste my time.

If people get the vaccine or not is not my concern.

I actually have more important things to worry about.

[Celtero]

@FoghornLeghorn99 Fine by me. Just try not to spread your ignorance.

[FoghornLeghorn99]

@Celtero Ignorance is not having the courage to question an authoritarian government !!!

[Celtero]

@FoghornLeghorn99 Ignorance is not understanding something and then having an opinion on it.

[CasaNorba]

I rather be a tax cattle over a lab rat and a tax cattle

[Celtero]

@CasaNorba You're not a part of an experiment, pal.

Like I said, inflated sense of self-importance. The reality is you're not even valuable enough to be a test subject.

[CasaNorba]

Dude you talk with an inflated ego yourself, therefore you shouldn’t be talking about self importance yourself since right now you’re throwing rocks while living in a glass house yourself.

Till you don’t have to be inside a lab to be a lab rat or part of a experiment. Till then if you live in any of the globalists lands then you my friend are part of the depopulation experiment that they’re currently conducting.

Keep in mind that these mad scientists love adamant hardheaded folks like you who believes everything he sees on tv and will submit to any bullshit that gets thrown at him

[Celtero]

@CasaNorba Hard not to have an ego when on either side of me are morons. On one side, masks apparently are the bane of all viruses. And on the other the government wants to kill everyone and the best way to do that is by making a fake vaccine.

[CasaNorba]

Except that your ego is turning you into a fucking hypocrite alright. Jesus dude have you heard about Hitler and the Nazis and how they tried to depopulate the world from certain people?

What if I tell you that today’s government isn’t so different but just more quieter and sneakier

[Celtero]

@CasaNorba Whatever, buddyboy. I'm 5 days into second dose of vaccine, I'll let you know when my eyeballs start falling out or if I turn into a liazardman.

[CasaNorba]

whatever you say buddy boy, lets just hope that you actually will live to tell it

[ClassyMe]

HAHAHAHAHA! NO! In fact... not just no but... HELL NO! It's kind of ironic that all of a sudden it's approved all of a sudden. Wasn't the projected around 2023? Also, with all the reactions people have had it kind of makes you wonder. No matter what nobody will make me take the vaccine (and no I'm not an anti-vaxxer). I don't care what rubbish mandate there is or "approval". There is nothing that anyone can do or say to make me or my family to take it.

[PoliteSpeaker]

Okay. And? Lol nobody cares what you do. Who is you? lmao

[ElvenMr]

@PoliteSpeaker The asker cares and also the butthurt downvoters cared enough, and in fact you cared enough to comment some bullshit as well.

[kc_4308]

Exactly no law and no mandates !

[kc_4308]

They can shove that poison ☠️ elsewhere

[Uptowngirl88]

Facts!

[FatherJack]

Nailed it... it's all more than a little suspect

[msc545]

@ClassyMe Don't take it, and die. nobody cares.

[ClassyMe]

@msc545 apparently you do. That's why you took time to comment because you were so triggered lol.

[kc_4308]

@msc545 you took it and may die. Do you even know what you took? What are you gonna do when you guy need blood and can’t get it? We can’t donate to you Red Cross announced that ! You guys are screwed !

[msc545]

@ClassyMe I definitely don't care what you do or don't do. Die however you want to.

[kc_4308]

@msc545 don’t be quick to wish death on others please not today bud

[Agape93]

No I've already gotten it a while back

[user4477388]

So here are my thoughts on the vaccines,
regardless of who makes what vaccine for COVID-19 !

The vaccine companies , politicians , the News media , the CDC , the world health organization ( WHO) are not being honest with the public.
A lot of corners were cut a lot of government regulations were put on the back burner.

It takes on average 15-20 years for a vaccine to be developed and get approved the COVID-19 vaccine was done in under a year so with that I'm not convinced it's safe , 4 ingredients in every vaccine are lead , murcury , aluminum and flouride wich are all nurotoxins but big pharma loves those 4 ingredients when those ingredients are unsafe.
Now I have really high blood pressure and people with high blood pressure have had strokes , heart attack and blood clots due to the vaccine.
I'm more concerned about my health and safety than doing what the government or employees want. I'm one of these who want all the information so I can make a well informed decision for my health.
I wonder who else have concerns of safety and health?

[Pterodon]

The smallpox vaccine counters everything you just said

[user4477388]

Flouride has to be stored in concrete and steel structures it eat bone , concrete and steel wich is why they have to be replaced every few years. Hitler put flouride in the water supply in the consontraton camps Florida closed the 3rd eye and makes people more like sheep
The CDC , the health department the who all list lead , murcury aluminum and flouride as nurotoxins. They are not magicley safe because they are put in a a medicine a shot or vaccine

[Pterodon]

What does your lengthy bullshit about fluoride that is put in our water supplies in addition to chlorine for decades have to do with the smallpox vaccine proving you wrong?

[Slartybartfast]

One of the main conspiracy theories about covid vaccines that I have seen spread right here on gag is that it alters human DNA. It comes DIRECTLY from a nut job named David Icke.

He claims an inter-dimensional race of reptilian beings, the Archons or Anunnaki, have hijacked the Earth and a genetically modified human–Archon hybrid race of shape-shifting reptilians and they control phizer etc..

Litteraly the same language i see here over and over promoting weird conspiracy theories about antifa, George Soros, aliens, covid and the election can be traced to a first class , tin foil hat wearing lunatic who thinks he hears messages from God.

[RaeShirley]

Well my aunt's brother (who was perfectly healthy and had no underlying medical issues) got the shot and a short while later he now has heart murmurs which is holes in your heart and he got it from the Vaccine so no, I will not get the vaccine, ever.

[TrueConfection]

My friend's husband had to be cardioverted the day after getting the 2nd shot.

[ToastyOats]

If you had used your real account Id be Following!

[RaeShirley]

@TrueConfection I am so sorry, was he okay?

[RaeShirley]

@ToastyOats I just changed it

[TrueConfection]

Yes, he lived. He's okay now. My friend and her husband didn't want the shot, but their adult kids insisted because they (the adult kids) didn't want the grandkids with my friend and her husband until they got the shot.

[Lliam]

Fuck no! There have still been no clinical trials. Deaths and injuries are being downplayed and ignored.
The FDA gets 70% of its budget from the pharma industry and has a track record for approving harmful drugs. Conflict of interest. Corruption.

I don't need to be turned into a GMO to be safe from germs. I have an immune system.

[Gravit1]

Since the legal system is not acknowledging natural antibodies in my blood stream I am opting for the Valneva Vax when it comes out. I trust the attenuated model for long term. Short term I trust Pfizer, but long term no one knows. One or two mRNA vaccines shouldn't be a gross concern, but decades of them will. It is designed to modify the cell and long term that will have consequences. I have friends that got Pfizer and my friends 60+ I recommended that over the others because it was having less adverse reactions. But realizing that this vaccine is pushing for standardization and being routine, I opt out from that.

[nano74]

Despite the largest fine in history at $2.3 billion for drug fraud, Pfizer was able to get full FDA approval in record time through Biden Admin. Booster shots show that the "Vaccine" wanes over time. Breakthroughs show that the "Vaccine" doesn't stop COVID 19. Fully Vaccinated Israel proved Pfizer is only 39% effective, and doesn't work past 6 months. A Vaccine that doesn't stop the disease and you have to take every 8 months is not a Vaccine. Its called Gene Therapy. The question for the vaccinated then is "Have you taken your twice yearly Booster yet?"

[kc_4308]

They’ll be on those booster shots for the rest of their lives unfortunately!

[NamerOfStars]

When the FDA itself admits its own phase three testing won't be done until 2025, meaning that not only did it not factor into its decision, but they still acknowledge the possibility of long-term risks? No. The precedent that's setting could doom us all.

I've already had Covid; I'm far more immune than any injection could make me. But even if I wasn't, I'd be even less likely to touch this thing now.

[LingyRolls]

Lol hell no. The safety and efficacy trial won't be complete until 2023!

[Gravit1]

Sounds like a thinker, you will be upgraded!

[kc_4308]

Nope I don’t care what’s FDA approved and what’s mandated me and my family won’t get the vaccine

[kc_4308]

My choice is my choice and won’t take a so called vaccine made under a year ago. It’s a bad outlook and started on a bad foot, too many adverse reactions, deaths, and vaccine injuries. My children are homeschooled and me and my family will be going off grid.

[kc_4308]

Thank you for the sensible people who thumbs me up. Any who trusts the government out rightly is asking for trouble. Also hearing those who are vaccinated can’t donate blood or plasma nor can anyone vaccinated donate to them.

[Truthatanycost]

On the Government website, I remember reading that the safety trials were expected to finish around 2023... yet some how the 'vaccine' is already approved. People ignore both that, and the fact that real vaccines in the past took decades to be safety tested. People seem to have very short memories!

[kc_4308]

Exactly I’m doing everything in my power to get off grid ASAP.. exactly the vaccine approval takes a few years in some cases ( like 10 years or so ) if people want the vaccine be my guess !

[ToastyOats]

Once you know there is no way to stop. You are a breath of fresh air!

[kc_4308]

Thanks @ToastyOats ! I’d be a fool to take the jab !

[Uptowngirl88]

They paid someone to approve that. Never have I ever heard of something getting approved by the fda so quickly.

[kc_4308]

Exactly

[kc_4308]

Facts ! Jack I I understand what she’s saying.. families were probably threatened.. 100

[Uptowngirl88]

@jackinoff not true fda approval means a lot. That's one of the main reasons people declined the vaccine. The fda is used to protect the public.

[Uptowngirl88]

@kc_4308 facts!

[ToastyOats]

People barely trust a plumber to do a good job. We're all the same deep down, and the FDA is full of slackers and corner cutters just like anywhere else!

[user4477388]

The FDA is owned by big pharma

[Pterodon]

@user4477388 do you have indisputable proof of that?

[Hypnos0929]

Funny because prior to 2020 most of you didn't know practically anything about the FDA and now everyone claims to be an expert.

[Pterodon]

@Hypnos0929 that didn’t answer my question

[Uptowngirl88]

@Hypnos0929 sounds like you're just now learning about the fda. Shame

[kc_4308]

I mean who honesty trusts the gov? Cmon now : oooo weeeeee it’s gonna be bad when this comes down and people get sick and need blood 🩸 … I have rare blood type and can’t help a soul

[Kelly6]

Long story short,
Don’t ever take any meds 🤣

[kc_4308]

^^ I feel sorry for anyone who took this poison ☠️

[Kelly6]

@kc_4308 don’t be,

[jackinoff]

Look at some of the things the fda has approved and some of the things that aren't. I question any government agency that claims to have my best interest in mind. Just my opinion but they are few and far between.

[Anonymous]

Me, my girlfriend, and my entire family have been fully vaccinated for over 4 months now and we haven’t had any symptoms at all. I doubt this will change skeptics opinions though. They could care less about what the medical experts and official organizations have to say.

[Hypnos0929]

Already got mine from Pfizer.
Tbh you'll see no more than a few "yes I will now" because it was never about the FDA for them. They just don't want to sound like they hate people. They'll move the goal post repeatedly, hell some are saying "The trials should take years! I'm not getting it until I see those effects!"

[genericname85]

Hell no. It's just so obvious how fucking corrupt even the most reputable institutions are. No professional in the field would just ignore long term testing. The fact that the FDA just did that just shows me that they are bought. Which isn't even surprised considering how much money companies like Pfizer have made in this short time.

[Biancam13]

No, because I don’t want to :) and because I’m not a sheep

[Kelly6]

Sheep?
Going to doctor also makes you sheep!
Too bad 🤣

[snowboarder720]

That’s what all the sheep say 😆

[Kelly6]

@snowboarder720 baaa baaaa baaaa🤣🤣

[tripptt69]

I keep laughing thinking about jay and silent bob and throwing that guy out the van. fuk a sheep hahaha

[FrenchGirl2]

Already been shot twice 👌🏻
Wondering about the third injection... I'm starting to think that we will have to do it every year

[RasberrySlushPuppy]

this depends on how long the immunity lasts, most boosters protect for a long time. The ones going in sick to hospitals are now getting their antibody levels checked. There's will sort of identify what unsatisfactory antigen level is.

[FrenchGirl2]

I guess so. My father is a doctor and says the same thing but also that they are checking their chances of getting out alive...

[RasberrySlushPuppy]

Ah I see. The weakest ultimately end up in hospital. What happens when someone gets covid and flu at the same time? Our winter is going to be a nightmare if kids aren't vaccinated against flu.

[ToastyOats]

More like every three months, mandatory, and you pay for it. That's where they are going with it, mark my words

[FrenchGirl2]

I don't know how many shots we will have to gets plus the one for the flu and I don't care I'll do it each time. What I get sick for like two days at worst in reward my mother and grandparents are safe? Worth the sting

[Truthatanycost]

How does the shot have anything to do with your mother and grandparents being safe? The shot does not prevent spread and does not prevent infection.

But there are plenty of natural molecules that reduce viral load in your body, reduce viral replication, and weaken and kill the virus in your body, on your skin, in your sweat and even in your nose. Now that would actually make it safer for your family...

[RasberrySlushPuppy]

@Truthatanycost the vaccine does increase the number or memory cells so then the viral load would be under better control

[Truthatanycost]

@RasberrySlushPuppy If that's correct, wouldn't that also be the case for the Delta variant?

[RasberrySlushPuppy]

@Truthatanycost having read a lot about the delta variant it doesn't seem to be the case but it may well have given the strong immune systems the knowledge. When anyone discusses it they are always looking at the weakest spectrum.

[msc545]

@Truthatanycost Right. Another scientist with a high school diploma.

[Sabretooth]

damn death cult.

[Anonymous]

Now that a company who has been fined billions in the past for illegally promoting the use of their drugs, for false advertising, and for offering doctors kickbacks to bribe them, has been approved by the FDA, who also accept bribes and the average cost to have them approve a drug is $98 million, and have approved drugs with dangerous side effects such as an increased risk of cancer or death, will I be getting the vaccine?

No I’m not retarded.

[ToastyOats]

I love Vaccines! Phizers product is not a Vaxx it is an advanced form of genetic engineering. Pathetic, it will never work. Covid will have Evolved a thousand new strains before they get the serum in the syringes!
I am mutating faster than the virus and way faster than the Jab! No problem.

[Levin]

Tbh, I'm pretty shocked, although unsurprised.

Especially given how many people have been exterminated with these jabs.

[kc_4308]

Bingo ! Don’t forget the vaccine injuries !

[Levin]

@kc_4308 It beggars belief. This world is fucking insane.

[kc_4308]

Sure is time to unplug I see wars coming - my bug out bags are ready and I’m ready for this shyt to go down real soon

[Youdumbeotch]

Love the Feds attempts to minimize any counter stance towards getting the unvaxed vaxed in this 2nd Pandemic wave.

3 factors stopping their efforts:
- Long Term testing data collection
- FDA approval (nearly 270M people vaxed under emergency use)
- Religion I. e the mark of the beast

[Ryfyle]

@Pterodon If that was the case, the EUA's on the Moderna swill and the Astra Zenica death shot would have ran out. They still inject people with those. The deal is that Pfizer got an extension on their EUA. I got my Injections and waiting to get the "booster" Hoping that that will put an end to me.

[Nick473]

No cause you can still get covid and spread it. a lot of people dont even have symptoms so to say that the vax is doing that when covid has been doing that all along just sounds like politics. And with all the political bs id rather keep my rights and stand up for them

[Anonymous]

ummmmm no. The FDA also approved cigarettes and we all know how healthy those bad boys are for us. Not to mention all the weird chemical shit they approve for food in the USA which is not allowed in other countries because they admit that it's not good. FDA approval means nothing other than they got paid.

[Pterodon]

No the FDA did not approve cigarettes. They regulate them

[FatherJack]

Am I fuck !! The way this is so heavily pushed worldwide , yet is essentially ineffective & seems to require endless " boosters " should ring alarm bells. Thumb me down all you like Cult Of Convid members.

[yourbabygirl921]

Yes if in my country kmu allowed to get the vaccine i totally support it

[CasaNorba]

fuck no!

my mind still hasn't change because obviously we cannot forget that there are millions of drugs out there approved by the FDA that kill far more more people than recreational drugs.

[Pterodon]

But you take some of them like aspirin Tylenol and ibuprofen

[CasaNorba]

not saying every single one of them @Pterodon but a lot of them do. look at Adderall for example. that shit has the same level of addiction and dependency as crystal meth

[Schizoaffective]

I already had my first shot
hopefully I won't catch covid before my second shot

[ToastyOats]

You already have it. It hibernates inside the body and manifests if your immune system gets to low. Vaccine bis totally unproven to help anyway.

[msc545]

@ToastyOats Bullshit. Go away.

[msc545]

@ToastyOats bullshit

[Rangers]

I got it in April, but my doctor better not lie to me again. She said I shouldn't have any side effects but after my second shot, I was in so much pain that I couldn't walk for two days and missed two days of work

[DarkWinterNights]

I don’t know how they could have determined the long term effects so quickly… but I won’t be taking either of the mRNA’s. I got the J&J even though I had Covid late last year but I won’t be getting any boosters.

[jshm2]

No need as I got both AstraZeneca. The main issue is that a lot of people aren't as healthy or informed about their health as they like to believe themselves to be.

[Bricealan]

I have not been vaccinated and do not intend to in the future. Hoping the hysteria, along with the number of Covid cases will recede. Doesn't look like either will occur.

[Subarugirl]

I already got mine earlier this year. Good thing too there was a COVID out break at my work

[tropicalbreeze]

In my country I just hope to get Moderna or Pfizer. I would prefer to get vaccinated with either within the next three to six months.

[Thegreendagger]

Nearly a third of FDA-approved drugs had problems, study finds

By Jen Christensen, CNN





So no I'm not taking it. Also they have heavy ties to phizer

[Aimée__LJ]

Already fully vaccinated 👍

[Kyle-Jackson]

not a good thing sweetie

[nickaboy]

Rest in peace

[OfDeath]

Lol look at the down votes you get for keeping yourself and others safe. People have gone insane.

[Slartybartfast]

@OfDeath

16 million Americans believe in alien lizard people. The same people push the anti vaccine conspiracies.
www.google.com/.../far-right-extremism-anti-vaccine.amp.html&ved=2ahUKEwiwm93xjcryAhWIWc0KHeYHDr4QFnoECAwQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1gYmsuuX8w5NeWUdrT0Cv7&cf=1

[Aimée__LJ]

It really must suck to have such low intelligence that you think vaccines are bad 😬

[CasaNorba]

@OfDeath so the people who do everything the TV tells them to are keeping themselves and others safe but the people who question what is being put in their bodies are "insane"

you know you just officially lost hope for all humanity when people dont even stand up for their own freedom and have -100% common sense

[CasaNorba]

@Aimée__LJ the people who are willing to put truckloads of unknown substances in their bodies without having the honor to question are the ones who lack intelligence. and yeah vaccines are not bad, I guess is safe to say that even the syringes that heroine addicts use to get their drugs in them aren't considered bad either

[Aimée__LJ]

@CasaNorba you realize that people who are against this vaccine are self medicating with a pesticide made for cattle? The information is right infront of you millions of people are vaccinated, FDA has fully approved Pfizer. You are stupid to still question the safety of the vaccine, there is no evidence that it is unsafe. Only antivax propaganda.

[CasaNorba]

@Aimée__LJ that’s complete horseshit cause I myself am against the vaccine and I am not self medicating myself with any nonsense. In fact I had Covid-19 myself in March and today I’m still alive, talk about “information being in front of you” I don’t know where the fuck you’re getting your info from and the fact that you call me stupid pretty much reveals that you can’t stand others disagreeing or challenging your views so you gotta get offensive like a whiny baby.

Also there are A LOT of things approved by the FDA that are extremely deadly. Look at the medication adderall for example. That shit is just as addicting and depending as crystal meth yet guess who approved this medication

[CasaNorba]

So coming to the conclusion all you’re doing here is making sweeping generalizations and projecting by calling others stupid and being part of a propaganda. So with that said I think all those vaccinations already did a huge number on you

[Aimée__LJ]

@CasaNorba I didn't call you personally stupid. Just anyone who buys into the antivax propaganda. I also didn't say you personally were self medicating, but other people are. Goes to show how fucking stupid *they* are for using a product intended for animals only.

Again all the data you need to know the vaccine is safe is online.

Nowhere in the history of vaccines has there been a side effect found more than 8 weeks after vaccination. Most side effects show up within a couple of weeks.

So this whole argument of "we don't know the long term effects" is just blatant bullshit because we do!

Vaccines don't work like medication does, you don't take vaccines long term they are out of your system in literally a week.

[OfDeath]

@CasaNorba You won't have any freedom if you're dead. In order to protect freedom, we have to protect ourselves and others. The fact is if you get covid-19, you will probably recover. Unfortunately, with strains like Delta, even young people in their 20s and other perfectly healthy young people have died from it. Just because you don't die, that doesn't mean you won't infect others by being inconsiderate and refusing to take scientifically proven steps to prevent spreading the virus, resulting in the deaths of others.

Steps you can take to prevent that from happening are wearing masks, thorough personal hygiene practices, social distancing where possible, self isolating if you are infected and getting vaccinated. The more people are vaccinated, the less chance the disease will spread which means less chance of people getting seriously ill. This is common sense.

[Aimée__LJ]

@OfDeath yes! Also what people don't realize when they're throwing around the survivability rate is that it includes people who have had fucking double lung transplants who will die in 5 years time, people who still need oxygen a year later because they can't fucking breathe. There's major long term effects from covid that far outweigh the side effects of a vaccine.

[OfDeath]

Yes exactly.

[CasaNorba]

@OfDeath its already been proven that YOU CAN STILL GET INFECTED AND PASS ON THE VIRUS EVEN IF YOU ARE VACCINATED. therefore nothing about me makes me inconsiderate for refusing the vaccine. I already had covid19 this past March and I'm still alive today and let me tell you I rather have that over the flu or any other illness I've had in my 34 years alive.

till then you are trying to protect yourself from an IMAGINARY enemy that our government wants us to believe we have. the delta variant itself its complete horseshit, it was orchestrated it to scare those who still refuse to take the vaccine. it can't be a coincidence that the delta variant became a thing shortly after the vaccines became available and if the government really was concern about the delta variant then they would of closed down the borders long ass time ago and not put so much hopes on the vaccine alone.

and have you heard of what's currently going on in New York right now? in that state you cannot go out in public places unless you have proof in your passport that you have been vaccinated. if that's not communism then I dont know what communism is. this also debunks your common sense logic that if more people get vaccinated the more safer we are because it sounds like the government has something called ULTERIOR MOTIVES

[OfDeath]

@CasaNorba I was going to seriously address your opinions with the real facts until you started on the conspiracy theories. I don't have time for this shit. Bye.

[CasaNorba]

@OfDeath you dont have time for this shit cause you know you're the one who's in the wrong. and if your so called facts were so "real" then you wouldn't of hesitate to bring them to the table, so yeah good idea; keep your facts to yourself as its the only way you will prevent yourself from sounding more moronic then what you already have.

also I dont know if you heard of the book titled 1984 by George Orwell. that book itself was based on a conspiracy theory that now became a reality.

[Aimée__LJ]

@CasaNorba if that's your argument then you clearly don't understand how vaccines work. Yes you can still catch the virus but you are far more likely to if you are unvaccinated and even if you are a breakthrough case you are less likely to need hospital treatment (which clears up the ICU's) AND less likely to pass it on. Not to mention less likely for the virus to mutate in you.

There are consequences of not getting vaccinated and those consequences are not being able to enter public places, your insurance not paying for your treatment if you get covid and people telling you you're a fucking idiot.

I don't care what your experience with covid was. I literally could not give a single flying fuck about you or your life. I honestly don't care if you die. I care if you pass the virus on to someone who is immunocompromised, a child, an infant, someone who can't get vaccinated, those are the people I care about.

Saying this virus is a conspiracy is utterly disgusting and disrespectful to people who have lost loved ones to this virus (myself included). Covid 19 has made it into the top 10 deadliest pandemics recorded in history and the death toll is still climbing (not to mention deaths are UNDER REPORTED). There is absolutely no fucking excuse for that to be the case.

Grow the fuck up and get vaccinated or stay the fuck home for the rest of your pathetic uneducated little life.

[CasaNorba]

oh wow @Aimée__LJ you wish I was dead now? wow I'm sorry, didn't mean to puncture your ego that hard, I guess I was right when I said those vaccines did a number on you. but by any means I'll oblige and not get the vaccine cause I chose to be uneducated and miserable over sounding like you any day.

[Aimée__LJ]

@CasaNorba clearly you can't read i said I don't care if you die ☺️ not surprising though you can't even read the most simple information on the internet ☺️☺️☺️ have fun dying

[OfDeath]

@CasaNorba Well I actually addressed your argument concerning already having had covid and not dying from it in my previous response if you actually read what I said. Protective masks, social distancing, hygiene and vaccination reduces the risk of spread and serious illness and purposely ignoring those facts and assuming it doesn't apply to you is putting others at risk which is inconsiderate. It is just the conspiracy theory stuff I don't have time for. I don't care to engage in an argument about something which is not based on evidence. You might as well argue over whether or not the moon landing happened.

[CasaNorba]

@OfDeath our global society is exactly like the one in that book I just told you about and that book was written in 1949. the reason why was because back then people were as naive and gullible as you and the masses are at the moment. they believe

"its just a conspiracy theory!"

"our government wouldn't do such a thing!"

"our government is very concern about our safety"

in the other words the government back then had the people exactly where they wanted. and today almost a century later nothing has changed

[Aimée__LJ]

@CasaNorba are you seriously referencing a fictional book 🤦🏼‍♀️

[CasaNorba]

no @Aimée__LJ yet another reason why that book is famous is because it was considered fiction in the 1940s when it was first published until. but after the surveillance cameras and computer hacking became a thing decades later it is now impossible to still consider it fiction... dont you think?

[Aimée__LJ]

@CasaNorba that's like saying a fictional book that involves flying cars can't be considered fictional anymore when flying cars become a thing...

[CasaNorba]

@Aimée__LJ exactly smarty pants. cause when cars do start to fly then its obviously no longer fiction since its already exist in real life. do you even know what the word "fiction" means?

[Aimée__LJ]

@CasaNorba that's not how fiction works. It's a fictional story. Just because something that was written in it becomes true doesn't mean the entire thing is now non fiction.

[CasaNorba]

when something EXIST is no longer fiction buddy. Jesus sweetie, how damaged are you from those vaccines?

[OfDeath]

I wouldn't bother with this guy lol. That last exchange about books no longer being fiction if something gets invented was uproarious 🤣

[Aimée__LJ]

@CasaNorba Whales exist that doesn't make Moby Dick non fiction.
Kites exist doesn't make the kite runner a non fiction
Castles exist, doesn't make Hogwarts a non fictional place 🤦🏼‍♀️

Your logic is really not logical.

[Kyle-Jackson]

how do you go from covid to a story about a whale wtf

[CasaNorba]

@Kyle-Jackson in Rick James voice "Vaccines are a hell of a drug!"

[Kyle-Jackson]

@CasaNorba they are i ain't gettin it

[Anonymous]

Moderna is more potent and seems safer. Why it is not approved first I don't know. I may yet wait to see.

[Opinion Owner]

hahaha Master knows best always, dude.

[Anonymous]

Of course they won't. The whole "FDA not approved" excuse was just that, an excuse.

For the world of the paranoid hypocrite, moving goalposts is a mere occupational pass time.

[valentina4eva]

already a 2/2 pfizer girl 💪💪

[TheClockBeforeTime]

are people really calling themselves that now? 😂😅

[valentina4eva]

😂😂

[valentina4eva]

no i’m just lame😂😅😅

[TheClockBeforeTime]

So lame 😂 but at least you made me laugh 😅😂

[valentina4eva]

lolol mission successful then😋😋

[TheClockBeforeTime]

Shall we see if you can make me laugh more times? 😂

[valentina4eva]

i think i am up for the challenge lol!!😋

[TDDMS]

It still isn't approved by the FDA. All that happened on August 23 was that they extended the EUA, that's it. Your question is misleading.

[Pterodon]

That isn’t true

[TDDMS]

Yes it is true. Here's the letter (fact sheet) that was issued on the 23rd of August, notice how it says on the first and last page that the vaccine is still under the EUA. Thank you for taking the time to actually read the letter that was issued by the FDA.

https://www.fda.gov/media/144414/download

[Pterodon]

What does that have to do with anything?

[RationalMale]

No. Side effects aside the delta variant may be more lethal to people who took the vaccine. Example: Israel had roughly 245 covid deaths June/July and over 85% of the deaths were vaccinated people.

[bamesjond0069]

No. The most likely stats are that the vaccine especially considering its two shots is more deadly than someone healthy and younger in a low risk group. So no thanks.

[Pterodon]

How many have died directly from the vaccine?

[bamesjond0069]

Quite a few. You should do some research.

[Pterodon]

I have. I haven’t found any. Tylenol, aspirin and ibuprofen have much more adverse reactions and deaths but you take those and think nothing of it

[bamesjond0069]

Oh so you mean directly directly. So then using your same standard how many do you think died from covid? NOT ORGAN FAILURE OR RESPIRATORY TRACT INFECTIONS. Another fun fact, how many do you think die directly from AIDs? Id recommend you think this through if this is the standard you would like to use.

[bamesjond0069]

Also i take no such medications. Why would i take unnecessary medicine? I eat healthy and work out. haven't been sick or needed any medications of any kind in years.

[Pterodon]

That’s the standard I want to use

[Pterodon]

I don’t believe you about not taking otc pain relievers or fever reducers besides my point is made

[Pterodon]

Here’s a stat for you. 522 have died directly from viagra.

[bamesjond0069]

Ok so nobody died from covid either. People are dying from organ failure but the covid itself is totally safe! Smh. 🤡

[Pterodon]

I’m not playing word games with you. I’ve proven my point

[bamesjond0069]

Why did you start a word game if you dont want to play one? Id recommend trusting the science. The CDC says there is likely vaccine deaths but they are still looking into the data since its so new they still dont have proper studies done smh. That can be read here: www.cdc.gov/.../adverse-events.html

But of course the vaccines can cause various medical issues that then can cause death. Had to mention that since we are still playing your childish word game. 🙄

[Pterodon]

But you have no defense for deaths caused by otc meds and I don’t believe you about not taking otc pain relievers

[bamesjond0069]

Changing the subject because you dont want to address the cdc science? Are you a science denier? And believe me or not. I have no comment on otc meds i dont take them so i have no interest to look into them. But feel free to stick to the subject at hand. Like i said i personally think the less chemicals that go into the body the better. Vaccines should be used sparingly and only if they are proven safe and effective. The cdc by their own admission is still studying the long term effects and therefore cannot with certainty say there are no risks or long term effects. Nor can they even accurately decide on how much risk there is short term, they are still studying it. TRUST THE SCIENTISTS!

[Pterodon]

I am trusting the science. You’re not

[Pterodon]

The CDC says to take the vaccines

[bamesjond0069]

I agree the cdc recommends it. Do you agree it also says vaccine deaths have been reported and there is currently no study on them to quote numbers off of? Nor is there a long term study on bad effects? I recommend researching things before you do them, doesn't mean you have to do it if you prefer to just do what someone tells you with no thought involved at all.

[ThatNoUVAtYourEyes]

I've had both doses, and a very mild reaction to first, with no reaction at all to the 2nd (in Europe)

[Anonymous]

FDA-Approved Drugs Kill over 100,000 people Annually... why would that be any different for vaccines...

[Pterodon]

So you don’t take aspirin Tylenol or ibuprofen either?

[Opinion Owner]

No I don't.

[In_Trance]

Means nothing

[PoliteSpeaker]

You lost me when I saw weed on the FDA not approved list. You idiots fall for anything. If you don't want then don't get it but why put up all these fake reasons why you aren't getting it. Just say you're scared damn. Lmao. Y'all got all these fake reasons to prove why it's okay to be scared. Nobody cares. Be scared. No one is judging you cause you're scared. They are judging you because you throw out these idiotic reasons and never mention the real reason. The dude got weed and baby formula on the right side... Do some damn research and you'll understand how dumb that list is.

[In_Trance]

@PoliteSpekaer do your own damn research and tell me how there's anything legitimate about breathing smoke into your lungs from any source. When you make a statement like you did you look like a retard

[Pterodon]

FDA did not approve cigarettes they just regulate them. This is disinformation

[In_Trance]

@Pterodon that's exactly the same thing. If you don't say no, you're accepting it

[Pterodon]

No it isn’t the same. The FDA has NEVER ONCE said cigarettes are safe

[misterCage4]

Honestly, I'd rather wait for another vaccine to come out. I am not saying this one isn't good or doesn't work but I am just skeptical about the side effects that it could potentially cause

[J9inva]

No. It’s technically not a vaccine. It’s gene therapy. But even so, why get a vaccination for something that has better than a 99.8% survival rate.

[MeghanL]

Yes. Actually I did already.

[MountAverage]

Had my second dose more than two months ago already.

[Juxtapose]

No, the full clinical trials aren't done. It being approved is a political ploy.

[Wise4myage]

I've already had my two shots, and I had no side effects. But I'm not sure Id like being forced to get them.

[Jakekk7634]

nope, My brother said he ain't getting it so i ain't

[DWornock]

No, all evidence implies it offers no benefit and often causes harm.

[Anonymous]

The FDA must have been either bribed or threatened. The FDA understands that the Pfizer drug is NOT safe, and they've been warning us by NOT approving it, up until NOW

[Opinion Owner]

I will obviously never get it. But I'm very disappointed in the FDA for caving under pressure

[Opinion Owner]

I just found out that the FDA has NOT approved the current Pfizer "vaccine" that's being given to all the "vaccine" takers... instead, the FDA has given approval to a different "vaccine" that's NOT being given to anyone (TruNews episode 8/24/21)

[CringeKing8228]

I thought about it until I saw censorship in the Pfizer FDA approval letter I read

[Caramelpie]

My grandmother uses medicines from Pfizer company years ago so this won’t be any different I guess.

[Anonymous]

It's either Pfizer or pray there are ICU beds available when it hits me.

[Anonymous]

Maybe.
If I say no, is everyone going to stop being so fucking creepy about pushing it?

[kc_4308]

They won’t which makes it even disturbing ! You can have my vaccine 💉! If you take it me and my kids won’t take it ever ! I dare anyone to try and jab me they’ll be looking for Jesus !

[RasberrySlushPuppy]

i think those of us who are reluctant can be grateful that some just go get it without any fear, some are more brave than others but usually its a combination of worry because we all cope differently to illness, some know they aren't very good at dealing with viruses so are front of the queue.

[RasberrySlushPuppy]

@kc_4308 i know a young woman therapist and she has a boy who kept getting ill from another classmate at school and then making her ill. Always there is one kid whose parents tell them to go school anyway and they infect the whole class may it be flu cold or now covid. The moment schools had better guidance on classroom hygiene, that all stopped. It's just more a risk you could get covid as a parent. I got the vaccine anyway haven't got kids but i want to feel happier around people and now i feel like i did before the pandemic.

[kc_4308]

I don’t care about no experimental vaccine 💉 or the jab of death

[RasberrySlushPuppy]

@kc_4308 eh? it didn't harm me, I've been completely normal since

[kc_4308]

So why are you people this vaccine onto people who don’t want it? I sure won’t take it Idc if it’s approved or mandated

[kc_4308]

Just because it worked for you doesn’t mean it’s gonna work for me and my family

[RasberrySlushPuppy]

@kc_4308 I'm not forcing anything. I actually got denied my 2nd Hep A booster vaccine by my doctor. They even hung up the phone on me. There's so much about being forced to get a vaccine, but what happens if you wanted it and were denied? I was so angry at the time.

[kc_4308]

I’m not taking the jab ever. So I don’t care about it and being denied. That’s every better !

[jackinoff]

The ceo of Pfizer isn't even vaccinated with his own company's vaccine. 🤔

[kc_4308]

Bingo ! He knows it’s poison ☠️

[TrueConfection]

Nope

[Pterodon]

Why?

[TrueConfection]

Are you looking for a debate?

[Subarugirl]

I’m curious why not too. Don’t want to debate just genuinely curious.

[TrueConfection]

@Subarugirl ok (you seem nice)

First, I believe the pharmaceutical companies have been making us all sick because it increases their profits. I also believe the spike protiens are dangerous and this is not proven effective. I am also concerned specifically about Pfizer because Pfizer is owned by the same group that owns the Wuhan lab. Also, way too many holes and conflicts of interest by Fauci.

If anyone wants "sources", they can get on that great world wide web and look ot up.

[Subarugirl]

Okay my mom actually feels very similar to that

[KimmyKimmy]

True,

I'm with you on this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2yXwUm5TNs

The worst mayor in the country told New Yorkers that they couldn't buy a large soft drink in his city.

Now the same asshole is telling you that you can get French fries if you take the Covid drug.

What's wrong with this picture?

Why do people set aside all common sense and trust the very same politicains that told them the opposite thing, yesterday?

Skip to 2:25 in the video if you care to see this hypocrisy.

[TrueConfection]

@KimmyKimmy Thank you

[KimmyKimmy]

You're welcome. Something is rotten in Denmark, and some see it and some don't. This site is filled with thousands of vaccine experts, and all of them know for a fact that the world leaders took the same vaccine being forced on the public.
They know this for a fact, because they saw it on MSNBC. (These are the people who told you that burning buildings and looting were mostly peaceful)

[Jfranco12]

I agree 100% I believe this was all a scheme to get us under control and have us begging for government checks. I do not trust our government at all

[Pterodon]

@Jfranco12 which government do you trust?

[OfDeath]

😂😂😅🤣 what planet are you on? You must get your news from some extremely fringe right wing conspiracy organisations. Pfizer does not own the Wuhan lab covid-19 was allegedly created in.
This made my day. The level of disinformation is uproarious. This is like something out of comedy tv show.
Don't believe me?
Here: www.google.com/.../4086363001

[ToastyOats]

The vaccine effectively acts like a virus!!! 🤔 Unlike traditional vaccines that trigger an immune response, this "injection" uses nano tech to hijack whatever cell the serum comes in contact with and stimulate it to produce a specific protein chain... Just Like A Virus. This is a big experiment and the data they are collecting will lead to something dark indeed. A Synthetic Viral weapon? Not a Bio weapon. It is a whole new tech they are releasing and almost noone even grasps that! Love ya!

[msc545]

@ToastyOats SO, would that actually be Dr. Toastyoaks? Because you really don't know shit.

[Anonymous]

So the FDA caved to Biden’s demands then…no thank you. I don’t trust any president who takes orders from the taliban.

[Amur8711]

Did you see who is in charge of the FDA? Fouci's wife. So NO