deluded conspiracist? You mean people that read the science? https://www.bitchute.com/video/Mj9k1MJWZKK8/principia-scientific.com/.../
Shut up and stop with the skepticism. Get vaccinated.
@NightHawk99 I would, if it weren;t for the fact that COVID deaths among fully vaccinated patients triple (according to the CDC at least).m.thebl.com/.../...nts-triple-u-s-cdc-reports.htmlI prefer staying alive, but thanks for the offer anyway.
Oh, ffs. Firstly, yes they are all vaccines, according to even the 2005 definition on wiktionary. Secondly magnetofection has nothing to do with it, and even less to do with making people magnetic. Thirdly, the "triple" is relative, it's still a fraction of the people who died of the virus in May. Hundreds of fully vaccinated people, but they were vaccinating a million a day. Fourthly, I just noticed you deleted whoever called you a deluded conspiracist, so I'm not going to waste any more time on you.
@goaded you're not very smart are ya? How could I delete someone? Are you thick?I would also like to correct myself, miscarriages are not up 100%, they are up 366%.freewestmedia.com/.../Do you think that these were-to-be mothers still think that taking an EXPERIMENTAL jab was a good idea? And so that people with your level of intelligence can understand too I will say it again: The "vaccine" is NOT FDA APPROVED. It is EXPERIMENTAL:https://www.bitchute.com/video/l4V8LJphmPWz/What can't you get about that? It's really simple, no?
You choose "I don't want to see this" from the menu on the message. So, who did call you a deluded conspiracist?Again with the relative numbers. Yes, 28 miscarriages is an increase of 366% over 6, but (a) both are extremely uncommon, (b) they had the vaccination against medical advice, (c) they could well have happened without the vaccine, and (d) you have no clue how many miscarriages have happened due to the virus.
Of course you show me something from a right wing propaganda news agency and claim it's fact. Typical.If you prefer staying alive, get vaccinated. Your ignorance and skepticism is killing you faster.
translate GTFO into English please
@goaded No one called ME a deluded conspiracist. It's in the update to the question. Are you blind? :D No wonder to took the vax in the arse, you couldn't read the patient information leaflet!!!
I see. You seem to have taken it personally.
You're a deluded conspiracist.
@NightHawk99 She was talking about you. How could you miss that?
That was in English right?
You got lucky
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Shut up with the skepticism. Just get vaccinated and lets get this outbreak over with. Skeptics haven't gotten us anywhere in this pandemic except killed.
Why do you feel that way? At this point the only people who are affected by not being vaccinated are others who don't want the vaccine. As everyone has had plenty of opportunity to get it in America. And it isn't just this vaccine; I take this approach with all drugs. Never mind that the only thing that I did differently from my normal life was wear a mask. Yet my preparation for the inevitable pandemic; have left me uninfected. Despite close contact with several covid positive individuals. Why? Because I know how to avoid get infections in general; as I work in health care. Critical thinking is a paramount of a free society.
Could you link me to this study where all the test animals ended up dead? Why were they released back into the wild? What animals were they testing on?
@devilman666 I think he means the virus was in the wild, not the animals, but I find it very hard to believe any such thing happened, especially as he couldn't even be bothered to name the supposed vaccine.
It isn't for any of the current vaccines. It was from a vaccine developed before the current pandemic for a different coronavirus. The animals tested were ferrets. I don't have time to post the study now. But I can look it up and post the link when I get back from work.
Thanks for looking it up.So, nearly ten years ago problems were found with SARS vaccines at the animal testing phase. Do you think they stopped trying to perfect an approach over the last 9 years?All the current vaccines have gone through years of testing, including on people, before widespread deployment. Was there a risk? Of course! But given ten thousand people a day were dying of covid, how many more weeks, months, or years of testing to find problems with the vaccines would you have recommended?Today, there are millions of people worldwide who have been fully vaccinated and are being exposed to previously unknown variants of the virus, and the number of them getting hospitalised is extremely small, and they're usually people who are immunocompromised.www.medrxiv.org/.../2021.06.09.21258617v1
How are the current Covid-19 vaccines supposed to have gone through years of testing; when Covid-19 has only been in existence for about a year and a half? Unless you are suggesting that China created this virus in a laboratory years ago to release upon the world? I brought up the ferret study for SARS-CoV-1 vaccines because they had issues with pathogen priming. Something that we should watch out for in any new coronavirus vaccine. And since all of the vaccines are still in the experimental phase; we can't say for certain if this will be an issue or not. Short term studies suggest promise with them; but we need to wait for long term studies to determine their efficacy. And to do so for all population groups; as drugs typically have different outcomes for different groups. Which is why my former employer was studying the effects of an individual's genome with respect to drug reactions. In the hopes of using a person's genetics to help select the best drug for whatever ailment they have. If you want to take an experimental vaccine by all means go ahead. However, as someone who is in a low risk cohort; I won't be taking my chances with any of the vaccines until they finish going through the experimental phase. I will continue to be cautious around other people; so as to not spread my own germs. I only wish other people were half as considerate as I am.
Fair enough, but today's vaccines are developments of the vaccines against SARS-CoV viruses the've been working on for nearly 20 years. Again, how many hundreds of thousands of people do you think should have been allowed to die before you would have been satisfied that your personal risk is sufficiently low? Until you get into the millions of jabs, there's no chance of noticing things like the blood clot problem. And it got noticed.Say there is a risk that people who have been vaccinated will have a worse reaction to a later infection (which doesn't appear to be the case, so far), how can you be sure that they wouldn't have had the same problem with a second infection with the virus? The vaccines appear to be performing really well and keeping serious illness and reproduction rate well down, even with the Delta variant. Every person who is infected with the virus is another chance for the virus to mutate, not so with people getting the vaccine.Which is better? Everyone being vaccinated, and unlikely to catch or pass on the virus, with the possibility of it dying out almost completely, or a billion people getting the sniffles, until a one in a million chance happens and there's a mutation to an even worse form? (With a billion people infected, a one in a million chance is a daily occurence.)
I was born in 2000 I got mine today
Good to hear! I'm glad you got yours already
I mean my invite. I’m still to get the jab
Ooh okay. I just found out that 1997 is also eligible for a vaccine, but that the invitation itself will only be sent on Friday. So I booked as well, first of July will be my time 👌🏻
Because the entire world came together to develop this vaccine. The flu one isn't a global vaccine
@Tomsta The flu was just as affective in spreading as COVID was. The "entire world" did not develop this vaccine, the entire world was sending labs money for it.
Go and be a conspiracist elsewhere
that's not an argument fucktard.
Finally, someone who realizes this shit isn't developed enough to be useful or safe.
A billion people have had at least one shot of one of the vaccines. The vaccines all pretend to be the virus, without the ability to reproduce like the actual virus. How is that possibly going to be worse than catching the virus itself?
You don’t have “clients” and they didn’t have problems with it 🤦♂️
I love three girls have me thumbs down over their covid vaccine religion but couldn't find any counter argument.
Are they? I thought a longer gap was better.
The advice has changed apparently, I'm just reacting to whatever the latest from the NHS and SAGE is. If the advice changes again then my plans will change again.
It's all a trade-off between the best and soonest protection, I guess.
It seems a bit up in the air here in Germany, my wife's doctor is leaving 6 weeks, my daughter's is pushing them through after 3 (both BioNtec). (When I went in for my second AZ, they were doing J&J single-shot inoculations, as well.)It seems you really need the second jab to fend off the Delta variant.
Glad you cancelled it. The vaccines need to be developed more. They're far too experimental right now to be administered.
This sounds like Paris, is this Paris
@humanearth hahaha Pee. xx
I see you now
@humanearth lol!!! I don't know WHY I had gone ANON. lol!!! xxoo
Well I can tell who my friends are just by their typing style. So you can try and hide, I'll find you
@humanearth lol!!! Lucky Me. xx
I do own a starker van with no windows, hahaha
A wise decision !!
Seriously, it's making people more sick than if they just didn't get it
Yes! A family friend has quite a high position in the medical comite of my country... and she also refuses to be vaccinated for good reasons... 😑 these are only symptoms coming along quite rapidly... just imagine long-term side effects... 🤨
Exactly! I'm genuinely worried about the people who are getting these vaccines, I can't imagine what it's doing
It's not zero danger at your age, not even of dying, and there's also the chance of heart disease and erectile dysfunction. But you do you.It's only politicised because Trump Republicans made it so; Bush had a reasonable approach to pandemics, so did Obama, who was attacked for "allowing" about 12,000 Americans to die in the last pandemic.
Because Trump republicans made it so? You literally had Kamala on TV saying she won’t get the vaccine under Trump like he’s the one making it. Biden literally is responding exactly how Trump was to the vaccine. Show me the stats I’ll change my opinion with credible evidence
Well, first of all, that's a misrepresentation of what Harris said:"“If the public health professionals, if Dr. Fauci, if the doctors tell us we should take it, I’ll be the first in line to take it, absolutely,” Harris said. “But if Donald Trump tells us we should take it, I’m not taking it.”"www.foxnews.com/.../vice-presidential-debate-kamala-harris-coronavirus-vaccine-trumpI don't know exactly what statistics you'd be interested in, but there are two reasons for mass vaccination.1. To keep the vaccinated from severe illness or death.2. To stop the spread of the disease. (The more people have it, the more people get it, and the higher the chance of mutations.)You shouldn't underestimate non-fatal effects of infection, either.www.mayoclinic.org/.../art-20490351"Although COVID-19 is seen as a disease that primarily affects the lungs, it can damage many other organs as well. This organ damage may increase the risk of long-term health problems. Organs that may be affected by COVID-19 include: Heart. Imaging tests taken months after recovery from COVID-19 have shown lasting damage to the heart muscle, even in people who experienced only mild COVID-19 symptoms. This may increase the risk of heart failure or other heart complications in the future. Lungs. The type of pneumonia often associated with COVID-19 can cause long-standing damage to the tiny air sacs (alveoli) in the lungs. The resulting scar tissue can lead to long-term breathing problems. Brain. Even in young people, COVID-19 can cause strokes, seizures and Guillain-Barre syndrome — a condition that causes temporary paralysis. COVID-19 may also increase the risk of developing Parkinson's disease and Alzheimer's disease."
"A Brazilian town has seen a 95% drop in Covid-19 deaths after almost all adults were vaccinated as part of an experiment, researchers say.Serrana, with 45,000 inhabitants, saw cases plunge after a mass vaccination with the Chinese-developed CoronaVac.The team said those who had not been vaccinated were also protected by the reduction in the virus's circulation....The experiment in Serrana, in the south-eastern São Paulo state, was carried out between February and April by Instituto Butantan, which produces the CoronaVac vaccine developed by China's Sinovac Biotech.The city was divided into four areas to help determine the threshold for containing the virus. The team said this was achieved after three areas, or about 75% of the population over the age of 18, had been given both doses.When 95% of adults were fully vaccinated, they said the results showed that: Deaths fell by 95% Hospitalisations fell by 86% Symptomatic cases fell by 80%"www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-57309538
That’s sad why’s that?
whatt? biontech free here where do u live?
Why, it ok
Ok then fuck off lol
I wish you and your kind would fuck off. Don’t ever ask another person about their personal medical information unless you are very close to them personallt
So, what you’re saying is that you’re ignorant
@CrazyRay43 if that's what you think, so be it. It's your opinion. I have my beliefs and you have yours. Good day.
Can I ask why you don’t want it? You don’t have to answer
Given my age, health, and rural location I am not in a position where I feel I need it.If I were 50 or older, that would be different.
Who the fuck would downvote that sentence?
Nobody really cares UNTIL they get it. Then if you do, you pray it won't be bad. Scary that you actually believe your own logic. Then again, you choose to eat clams purchased at a gas station, so I guess that speaks for itself. LOL
@loveslongnails look man as long as I don’t have aids um good
Everybody thinks they're invincible at 21. You'll soon find out you're wrong.
@loveslongnails dude you don’t know me maybe I never planned on living a long life maybe I’ve tried to kill myself 3 times in last year maybe I drink so much alcohol that my liver is one more bottle of peligroso away from complete shut down Ik I’m not invincible I’m counting on COVID TO take me out if not I’ll try the Mississippi River I can’t swim and hell something might eat me
Never been tested, which is driving my wife around the bend! :)
@goaded Just get the test and the vaccine. It is no big deal.
it IS a big deal. It's far too underdeveloped.
@kitkills So far it's kept ME safe and from what I see lately, it's good for warding off the variants that are out there.
The "variants" are literally people who got the flu lol. They're saying there are variants to scare you into getting it. This world right now is running on fear, and always has. They've always scared us into doing things just because they want us to lmao. I can guarantee you, you'd be just as safe, if not more so, WITHOUT the vaccine lmao.
@kitkills Says the man that is one of the lucky ones. The pandemic is slowly being diminished and put under control. But never fear, just like the flu, we'll need a booster shot. If you've ever had the flu, a really bad case of it, you'd understand.
I've had the flu before lmao, when I was pretty young. You're right it wasn't so bad that I was going to die or anything, but that doesn't have much to do with the fact that they didn't take enough time to develop this vaccine lol
@kitkills The best scientists have worked on these various vaccines. There IS more to it than just putting a few chemicals together.The general stages of the development cycle of a vaccine are: 1. Exploratory stage 2. Pre-clinical stage 3. Clinical development 4. Regulatory review and approval 5. Manufacturing 6. Quality control Clinical development is a three-phase process. During Phase I, small groups of people receive the trial vaccine. In Phase II, the clinical study is expanded and vaccine is given to people who have characteristics (such as age and physical health) similar to those for whom the new vaccine is intended.
Dude, stating all the phases doesn't stop the fact that they went through all of them too fast to produce an accurate product
I don't need a test, I'm already fully vaccinated.@kitkills No, it's really not "the flu", they're completely different viruses, and it's not some big plan to keep people afraid, it's exactly what the doctors say it is. The vaccines don't make you magnetic, either.
Go and be a conspiracist somewhere else
I was just trolling there's no need to be mean alright.
There’s nothing mean about my comment🤣
I can't believe you've done this.🤕https://youtu.be/wKbU8B-QVZk
@Aquariusmystery the Holocaust is a myth circulated by socialists and the labour parties of both UK and USA to suppress the one true ideology that worked.
Have you had a lobotomy or were you just born stupid?
99.997 survival rate is good enough
That means 21 million people died. And many, many millions more suffered greatly while fighting it and most still have bad effects from it. Not at all good enough.
99.997 of the people who got it. . . Why would I include people who haven't got covid?
Because your question is about the vaccine and getting the vaccine has helped millions avoid getting covid and perhaps dying from it.
Yes but thats the pre vaccine numbers LOL. now it's even higher
Nobody says you have to. Most intelligent people think you should. Rupert Murdoch had his in December.
@goaded intelligent people decide sheep follow what ever they are told to follow
Have you ever heard of a Judas Goat? You're leading people away from safety.
@goaded its the individuals choice to decide who has advised any to have have or not to have any vaccines
Then GTFO of society and make your own unvaccinated one 🤦♂️
@goaded Most intelligent people think you shouldthey are leaders and they are followers i am an inviduduaL who can think for my slef
@goaded when walking in life who do you know who has been vaccined who has not been vaccinated
We don't, which is whypeople still protect themselvesin stores when they shop.(Does it sound more profound if it's on multiple lines? I think mine's actually a Haiku.)
@goaded its our body its our choice the end
Don’t reply then?🤣
Nah Ill reply if I feel like it😉. If you don't like opinions that don't agree with you then don't ask questions. I just felt the need to let your young ass know that this is not your business. This is just like asking somebody how much money they make.
Nobody forced you to answer. Stop crying, grandad🤣
No shit no one forced me to reply, I definitely replied with consent. What kinda dumbass immature shit is that to say? It's you that has a problem with what I'm saying genius. Make fun of my age all you want. I can't fix that and 1 day you will be 37. But being an idiot with no home training is fixable.
Jesus at least get a tetanus shot or something..
@kitkills I meant the Covid vaccine lol. I've been vaccinated before. Sry 4 not noting that
Oh okay that's good XD
Right with you never had a single shot either in my entire life
@humanearth oh yeah...
I’ve had covid too but I’m still getting it
There's no need. I see no reason to risk side effects of the vaccine.
Getting a vaccine after having covid will do nothing