What the hell is an anti-VAXXER in 2023?

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So this is the conversation I was having with multiple people during the pandemic.

My definition of an anti-VAX or somebody like Robert Kennedy, who is against vaccines in general, doesn’t matter if it’s the MMR vaccine or the chickenpox vaccine or typhoid or vaccine polio vaccine that somebody goes against all vaccines in general.

Then there’s 2 definition bad people were using in 2021 where if you were against the Covid vaccine you were an anti-VAX

or

If you supported people getting the Covid vaccine, but didn’t support the mandates for getting the vaccine you were also an anti-VAXXER (I would fall into the category)

So what the hell does anti-vaccine mean today?

Messianic_Monk · Accepted Answer

As someone who was jabbed a bunch growing up... I never really had a problem with it. After a while I only took the stuff deemed "necessary" (tetanus, whatever is required for international travel). I stopped taking flu shots since probably early 2010s? Last time I got the flu? I maybe had it in 2020 but the last time I can confirm beyond a shadow of a doubt was 2017.

The Covid Vaccine rolled out. At first, the left was up in arms screaming "NOT FOR ME! TRUMP IS PUSHING THIS TO KILL BLACK PEOPLE!!!" I kid you not, a former friend of mine who is a liberal (not my friend anymore, he ended that relationship like a TOTALLY mature person) pushed a conspiracy theory on Facebook that the Trump administration was rounding up black people and putting them in these Covid camps to jab them with this vaccine. He basically believed all the Covid conspiracies... until Biden got elected. He then did a 180 and was pro-vaccine. Of course... he would never admit he was WRONG (like most libs). I swear... it was like watching big brother from 1984. Big brother said one thing and all the people cheered... then he contradicted what he said and they still cheered. that is the modern left. Initially the vaccines were designed to ethnically cleanse black people... now you need to be so vaccinated that vaccines need to be coming out of your face.

Now, for most conservatives, our stance hasn't really changed since the vaccine came out. We were skeptical of it's safety since there wasn't a whole lot of long term data on it... several of their scientists bolted from the project... the forceful mandates... censorship in the media and online circles expressing concerns... etc. made the whole thing highly suspicious. And you're treated like an idiot if you have concerns over these things.

Lliam · Accepted Answer

Anti-vax is a propaganda term. It's part of the campaign to coerce people into having a new, gene modification technology injected into their bodies.

It's like calling people who don't want to eat GMOs or poisons "anti-food".

Many people realized that it was a scam from the get go.
Information was banned and censored. Scientists and global experts were silenced.
The reason for it gaining Emergency Authorization was fraudulent.
Thousands of people were deliberately murdered by withholding inexpensive, safe and effective, early treatments.
Billions of people already had natural immunity.
The claims made about the jabs turned out to be false.
Thousands, if not millions, of people world wide were killed or permanently injured by the "experimental" jabs.

This was about making shit tons of money, not saving lives. Bill Gates was the main planner, proponent and beneficiary. He, Fauci, other profiteering elites, the WEF, the WHO, the DOD, and certain pharma companies had planned it for years. Those who pushed it are criminals and should be tried for mass murder and crimes against humanity.

sheikalana · Accepted Answer

You know some people just have too much free time in their hands and need to associate themselves with something even if it's the most ridiculous thing ever just to pretend they're relevant or to tells others that they support a certain cause because there's literally nothing more interesting in their lives. These anti-vaxxers are no different than people who believe that the earth is flat, vegans who think they can save the world, feminists who hate men and the list goes on.

PBandJ_Nerd · Accepted Answer

Being ant-vax means you're against getting any kind of vaccines.

Billlewis · Answer

It means whatever the media wants it to mean. They've already covered up the announcement from the centers of disease control that anyone who has received the vaccine is 3-4 times more likely to be hospitalized or die from Kowvd, but because that doesn't fit the narrative that the hard left is promoting, the news was squashed by the corporate media. Think about that -- the far left is so power hungry that they'd rather let people die than lose their narrative... sickening. But plenty of young woke females will still vote for them because they're angry about abortion...

genericname85 · Answer

anti vaxxer was always just a derogatory propaganda term used to silence critique. the actual demand of people was to have autonomy about what medication you want take and not to be forced to take injections by the government or otherwise.

and i am still shocked that a big portion of the population fell for this obvious bullshit labeling, cause i would say a good 99% of everyone who was against the forced covid vaccination were not actually "ati-vaxx".

and i am still shocked that a lot of people still didn't understand that the population was scammed out of a LOT of money that is now in the pockets of politicians and the medical industrial complex, probably being right now reinvested into the next big bullshit that will probably come like 10 years from now.

WindAtMyBack · Answer

In the past it was like you say. It was people who were against vaccines in general. Those people were actually pretty rare. I've never personally met one.

After COVID, it completely changed. Large numbers of people who were never against vaccines in the past, were totally against this one. I don't agree with them, but it's somewhat understandable since the time to develop it was pushed so hard, without the same kind of testing normally required for any other drug or vaccine.

Anti-vaxer has changed meanings and been politicized. What is called anti-vaxer today is not really anti-vaxer the way the term has always been used in the past.

LiamJHayden · Answer

"My definition of an anti-VAX or somebody like Robert Kennedy, who is against vaccines in general"

Except he isn't. "I am not and have never been anti-vaccine. I’ve always said that I’m for safe vaccines and robust science and for regulatory agencies that are free from conflicts of interest and financial entanglements with the pharmaceutical industry."

https://nypost.com/2023/06/22/robert-f-kennedy-jr-interview-why-im-not-an-anti-vaxxer/

safricanluke · Answer

To me, if someone is against any vaccine for stupid non-scientific reasons, they are an Anti-Vaxxer. Doesn't matter if they're only against one vaccine or all of them, as long as the reasoning is based only on conspiracy theories they are Anti-Vaxxers.

Exterminatore · Answer

I don’t know. To me it means anti Covid vax, and I consider myself an anti vaxer regarding that. I am not opposed to the other vaccines MMR, Polio etc. I think only a fool would oppose those and when those fools get polio I will not have sympathy for them.

exitseven · Answer

The democrats came up with that term to make them look like a bunch of nuts. Nobody knows what it means.

Sevenpointfive · Answer

anti vax to me is a person that's against vaccinations in general. in 2o23 it's the same thing but i don't know if babies are automatically vaccinated against plagues and polios and other bad shit

DarkWinterNights · Answer

Vaccines are personal medical choices that should be discussed and the risks and rewards for each vaccine between you and your doctor. If that or being against mandates is anti-vaxx then I guess I’m anti-vaxx.

Shamalien · Answer

Someone who doesn’t trust “safe and effective” marketing campaigns for dangerous pharmaceutical drugs

gothbxtch · Answer

being against vaccines and mandates of vaccines.

gorydetails · Answer

As @lliam said, it's a way to shut down debate. Just like the term 'conspiracy theorist'.

shades777 · Answer

anti vaccine has the same meaning it always has. vaxxer I don't know what that, some sort of fruity way of speaking

Anonymous · Answer

It's people who are against all vaccines and I guess them wanting vaccines not to be mandatory which they should be.

Anonymous · Answer

Anti vaxers are the idiots that are against vaccines

Anonymous · Answer

They are up there with flat earth people.

BigDog1989 · Answer

It means they don't believe in getting vaccinated

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