Do you like to see ribcages on a body?

[el_Te_de_la_Rosa]

For me, it's not sexy at all. If it's an animal, that would be diagnosed for malnutrition. But some people think they look good with ribs sticking out. Worse, when they insist they are still fat. What?

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Well, well well... Before this hurts more people, I can see mine, 2 on each side. If it's a sketch of a skeleton, I love that. But not so much on a person and myself.

How about I put it this way, "How many ribs shown on a body that starts to scare you?"

[RavVid]

Well the way to test if a cat or dog is too fat is to see if you can feel the ribs. You put a fingertip on the rib cage and run it down with light pressure. You should feel each rib as a distinct bump.

Same applies to girls.

What is really sexy is when a girl is slender enough that the flare of the crest of her pelvis shows through her skin.. Think about that. The female pelvis is radically differently shaped to the male pelvis and it is beautiful and sexy because of that.

Sadly most girls carry too much weight for the crest of the pelvis to show.

[el_Te_de_la_Rosa]

Really? That's new to me.

[RavVid]

In terms of the pelvis? The pelvic crest is more apparent to the eye than it is in photos.
The female pelvis is a basket in which to carry a baby after all and the crest flares out.

If you show a couple of ribs you would probably find you can see your pelvic crest a bit below your navel. Sounds like you have perfect slenderness.

If I could see all of a girls ribs, I would find that scary and feel a need to feed her up.

[el_Te_de_la_Rosa]

Thank you for clarifying. I still prefer to cover my bones anyway. It doesn't look nice in leggings. Modesty is better.

[RavVid]

You're welcome and your bones are your bones. :)

Modesty is better. I am surprised at immodest girls are in active wear. Not that I don't enjoy it because it is biological to do so.

[GuyAnswersGirls123]

I do and like women on the leaner side but maybe it depends on context? The ones I have in mind aren't underweight and some even overweight (from muscle):

I'm similar though. You can see my ribs easily along with serratus anterior:

Not talking about people with eating disorders but just people who work out and stay reasonably lean. Our ribs are generally going to show a bit.

[el_Te_de_la_Rosa]

If they have a lot of muscle mass, it's not that bad. The woman in your pic looks great. She's got curves, strong arms and big thighs. That's nice to look at. For the man, his chest and abs muscles create the definition. I can't really tell where the ribs are, so it's fine.

By the way, I just don't get why being lean is really needed. So my point is why some people love to show off (in social media: gym page.) when not everyone likes their body type.

[GuyAnswersGirls123]

I mostly like reasonably athletic women above all else who can climb, leap, sprint, swim, resist their bodies with ease, since the ultimate interest I could have in common with a woman even above my nerdiest and geekiest ones. I also see such bodies as the most well-rounded for survival since they can climb up a tree if they're in danger, swim away, run away really fast, etc. Most of those will tend to have their ribcage showing to some degree since those types of athletic bodies focused on calisthenics will tend to want to shed away a lot of dead weight which don't contribute to these motions.

[GuyAnswersGirls123]

For me (that's me by the way in the man pic), I sometimes show off the shirtless pic just to show people I'm into fitness to some degree. But I'm generally not the type to post it so eagerly outside of a context or walk around often with my shirt off.

Where being lean appeals to me is that it makes it easier to climb, for example, with less body fat contributing to my body weight that I have to resist. I think powerlifter men and women are cool who are very strong and carry some more fat (since they don't need to lose it to do things like deadlift the heaviest), but for the types of athletic motions I favor, it helps to get rid of as much excess fat as we can (but not to the point where it interferes with our general health).

[GuyAnswersGirls123]

I do have a kind of basic litmus test for what I think is too lean, and that's vascularity. I don't think the human body on either men or women should have ab veins popping out if we're focusing on health and not just being as lean as possible at the cost of it:

Usually people who get that lean for bodybuilding competitions compromise their immune systems and get ill very easily. So while I admire their effort in chiseling away every last bit of body fat on their bodies, I think it's too much.

[GuyAnswersGirls123]

I also like women on the softer side as well. I dug up this picture which I think illustrates three body types in an interesting way from the same women:


I actually think she's prettiest on the left. However, I think I would have more interests in common with her version on the right after she really embraced working out. The one I dislike least is the middle: that's when she started struggling with eating disorders and anorexia and became underweight.

[el_Te_de_la_Rosa]

Thank you for your pic. Since you're married, I can't compliment you. (Does it make sense?)

Yes. I agree with the last part that too low body fat is not preferred. My goal is to gain more booty to have it larger than my shoulders and slimming my arms.

When I was a climber (industrial) I used the strength of my legs mostly. I found it quite hurtful when I lost weigth because the harness wrapped so tight. Also, with lots of gear and procedures to handle for the best safety, the brain needs fat to function well. That's why I don't think losing too much fat it necessary.

Moreover, as an (cartoon) artist, I only draw the bodies of men from portraits, once a model (my classmate, and his body wasn't impressive). I never have one looks like you. In mangas and anime, I was curious what are those (ribs) on buff male characters. I have some action figures but never feel the real things, so I can't tell that those are ribs. The closet picture I used to draw was the David (only the torso) while I studied art; still had no idea back then. For female bodies that I draw more often, there are very rare to be seen. It's not aesthetic to me if ribs are shown in a female body. I like voluptuous type with curves and sign of softness.

[GuyAnswersGirls123]

Cheers! I feel a bit vain sharing that pic sometimes and try to do it contextually. Mostly I just wanted to show that I'm not hypocritical in my fondness of athletic women; I at least have some modicum of an athletic background myself. I'm very far from a bodybuilder but my own ribs show as well, especially if I raise my arms.

A muscle I'm very fond of is the serratus anterior or what some call the "finger muscles" surrounding the ribcage. It aids in breathing as well as lifting and lunging motions of the arms. That might be what you're mainly seeing on the buff male characters is more the SA and not the ribs:


It's also fairly prominent on the statue of David together with the ribcage:


I tend to like the softer and more voluptuous forms as well. I think I even prefer it visually on some level associating more with femininity and fertility. I think where I always liked women who were quite lean (but not ab veins popping out) is more abstract, like I imagine playing sports together and going to the gym together and being training partners and being able to enjoy eating like fitness junkies together. It's a mutual interest type of appeal in the latter case for me.

[el_Te_de_la_Rosa]

Very knowledgable!

Why imagine? Don't you go to do those stuff with your wifu?

That's called Slim Thicc, am I right? Too bad it's not very popular here. Most men still like skinny women because they themselves don't workout. So that women think being skinny IS the most beautiful. Well, I don't need validation from them anyways. My admirers just live in other nation. Hehe.

I like her in the 3rd pic as well. I don't mind when she's a bit chubbier since she's got the cleavage. Though I think if I were a man I'd be a booty lover. 🤣 I still have a struggle working on my tummy. But I have a corset to cover it. Lol. Six packs in women are not very much liked.

[GuyAnswersGirls123]

My wife and I have quite a bit in common there. She's quite active and enjoys some sports. I'm quite a bit stricter though. For example, I took over 90% of the cooking in our household because she likes to cook refined carbs on top of refined carbs. 😅 It's delicious but I didn't think it was fair to ask her to cook more fiber-rich and protein-rich meals since she doesn't need to eat them for her fitness goals while I do, so I just volunteered to do most of the cooking.

I think I'm even more of an oddball since I like even women with rectangle body types. They don't even need the "thicc" part of it with the curves.

I'm actually a booty lover but I like the small ones fairly well.

On six-packs not being popular on women, I used to think that was too much but I dated a Russian acrobat long ago who was performing in a local circus. Not only did she have washboard abs but she had hands rougher and tougher than even most guys I've met because she trained all day gripping ropes which calloused up her hands and even wrists. When we held hands, I felt like I was holding onto a rock; my hands were softer than hers and her hands were tougher than any man whose hands I ever shook.

Yet I came to love her washboard abs and rock hands and she was still soft in all the right places. I don't prefer six-packs on women but I don't mind them, and don't prefer rougher hands to softer hands but also don't mind them anymore.

[el_Te_de_la_Rosa]

I see. Curry rice is my fav. Lol (You cooking is nice!) I like the bodies like Jessica Biel. Her shoulders are wider but still super hot. Those arms are crazy. Very tones and beautiful.

Russian ladies are gorgeous. Everybody agrees with that. 😉

[BoopBoopBeep]

MHO to @GuyAnswersGirls123 for sure. It's like he was tying out my thought process and then I didn't really have anything left to add

[GuyAnswersGirls123]

@BoopBoopBeep Cheers! 🤝 I tend to literally type out loud. It gets a bit long-winded. Summarizing isn't my strong point. 😅

[GuyAnswersGirls123]

She was quite attractive. This is her by the way: Julia Kolosova, on the ropes and hoops.
https://youtu.be/4w8YAV1kQgs
When we were dating, she was only part of a very small local circus group and not Cirque du Soleil. Also when we were together, she didn't do such a sexualized performance. I don't really like it so much compared to her original one in the local circus. Still, it's amazing to me that she managed to join Cirque du Soleil. She might be the closest to a celebrity I ever dated.

[BoopBoopBeep]

@GuyAnswersGirls123
Making good points in well articulated responses is though. I like that you have the visual aides, especially for the people who... may not normally see those... shall we say. My ribs have always been visible at the bottom, as they should be, particularly during certain movements. When I was in a different sector of government work, always depoyed, and 20 years younger I was 20lbs heavier than I am now (of muscle) it was still there. I've never been as big as you, in part because I couldn't "fit in" in the parts of the world I worked undercover in, and I've always had a runner's physique from all the cardio and ruck marches I did. It always amazed me when larger people, shall we say, of the fast food variety were like "oooh you're so skinny." It's like... bish I can do 80 one handed pushups and I just rucked 30 miles with 80lbs on my back... I'm not the one who is caught lacking on the pathway to health.

[BoopBoopBeep]

My diet is so limited now after my heart attack and I can't do any protein powder I've found so far due to all the sat fat in them, getting my weight back up there is proving to be a MF. I'd lost 25lbs when I couldn't work out like I used to. In nearly 2 years I've only put 5 of it back on. It was a lot easier when I could do 3500-4500 calories a day. Last time I did a full marathon (32lb load that day) I lost 7 lbs. Granted a lot of that was water weight, but all of it wasn't. I can real easily burn through 2-3000 calories before noon and without supplements AND unable to go above 8-10 sat fat a day... well... let's just say as good as I've become at cooking beans... that's only so much fun. I work in an odd part of the country. All the women are super fit or super NOT, there's not much in between. When I go back to the south to visit my mom the obesity rate is so high I feel like a famine victim by comparison. Even with my deployed physique there was SOOO much "why are you so skinny?" going on. You're 5'1" and nearly 300lbs... where does skinny start for you?

[GuyAnswersGirls123]

@BoopBoopBeep I got a lot of that skinny-shaming too growing up when I was in the US. "You're just skin on bones," "dude, you need to eat more," etc, with the same type of sentiment where I wanted to say, "b*, let's compete in the 100m dash and see who has the health problem." 😅

I was actually rather skinny and gaunt in the upper body (had relatively thick legs being a sprinter, long jumper, and vert skater) like this:


But I was actually training over 4 hours a day on average, I'd say, sometimes 8+ on weekends. And I was eating a boatload, putting away 12-packs of sodas and 2 large pizzas for dinner. I wasn't measuring calories then but I have done it carefully for a brief period to be able to estimate reasonably and I'd estimate 3500+ calories/day on average at minimum, and often 5000+ on odd days.

Funnily as I got older, I ended up bulking up. Like above is me in my early 20s, this is from late 30s:


But I barely worked out. I went from training 4+ hours/day in my teens and 20s to averaging maybe only 20-30 mins a day but gained a lot of mass all of a sudden and not just from fat. It's kind of a mystery to me but maybe in spite of eating so much, I still wasn't at the caloric surplus needed to gain much muscle and weight.

Sorry to hear about the heart attack. I'm starting to struggle a bit in my 40s. I can no longer take it for granted if I'm getting a gut to just burn it off in a few weeks. I quit drinking alcohol last year for a variety of reasons but one is just to make it easier to lean down and stay lean, since that was my main remaining source of excess calories.

[BoopBoopBeep]

Haha sounds like me if you replace vert with mountain biking. I tell ya man... when I was peaking my intake at 4500 calories eating was such a chore I couldn't even enjoy foods I used to like... not until I got back down to 3k-ish. It was rough.

All my pre-/post-deployment cholesterol checks were great. Low even, so my widow maker was a whole lot of WTF? Turns out regular blood panels don't account for cellular size of the cholesterol. My good cholesterol is numerous, but it's cell size is too large, so it can't get into all the little nooks and crevices and purge my bad cholesterol, which unfortunately also has a small cell size, so it CAN get in there. The ratios were always good, but say where a normal person may need 3:1 (making that ratio up) of good cells to purge bad cells, I need closer to 5:1 or something, so we never saw it coming because that only shows up on advanced CardioIQ tests, which the government doesn't run. You'd think it'd be cheaper than the countless dollars they spent training me... but what do I know.

Got my LDL down to under 10 now. Two tests ago I was at 12, last month the lab just printed "undetectable" on the results and my cardiology team called and asked them what that meant, they said depending on the machine that was used on that test, it won't quantify anything below 10 or below 8, depending on the model. Guess all those ruck marches and modified Mediterranean diet (I do add more extra lean beef than traditionally) are paying off.

[BoopBoopBeep]

I tell everybody... heart attacks don't go like they do in the movies. Mine just felt like a small scar tore off of either side of my sternum and a half hour later I got diarrhea. Googled it, said most likely cause is a heart attack. I laughed and was like "no that's crazy"... but I'm 10 minutes from a hospital and have good insurance let's go check it out. A large part of my heart is dead now from oxygen deprivation, but they're keeping me off the donor list since I'm "still in too good of shape to ever be a viable recipient." Sad when my docs are telling me how to let myself go to shite so I can hope to get put on the list. I'm don't play the lottery for a reason so not ready to go that route, but yeah man... ever feel weird shite in your chest get that looked at.

[GuyAnswersGirls123]

@BoopBoopBeep Damn, now I'm wondering if I ever had one! I might need to start paying attention to things like cholesterol and get some blood work done.

I'm very glad to hear that the LDL levels are down! The Mediterranean often seemed rather optimal to me.

The Japanese Ministry of Health has actually conducted extensive studies into our Okinawan neighbors to try to determine the reasons for their extremely long lifespans, especially since they're poorer than Japanese and have inferior healthcare.

Some vegan activities want to claim Okinawa as one of theirs claiming the traditional Okinawan diet is close to vegan but they're just propagandists from everything I can tell. Yet our ministry of health conducted extensive studies without that vegan agenda and concluded the Okinawan diet, especially among centenarians, is basically the Mediterranean diet.

[GuyAnswersGirls123]

[*] The Mediterranean [diet] often seemed rather optimal to me.
[*] Some vegan [activists] want to claim Okinawa as one of theirs [...]

[BoopBoopBeep]

yeah find a lab that can do CardioIQ not just the typical metabolic panel/lipid panel or it won't show the cell size. It can be hereditary, so if they don't want to order it... remember you got that grandparent/great uncle that died of it ;)

also skipping back a few posts... I'm not that big on vascularity on women, but I gotta agree with you, the women with abs I've been with have been super hot, and it was nice having a full throttle activity partner

[GuyAnswersGirls123]

@BoopBoopBeep Will keep that in mind especially with the grandparent/grand uncle story!

On abs, absolutely. 🤝 Actually I was so smitten with that ex; maybe the most "physical" attraction I ever had to a woman although not purely visual but also such admiration for her athleticism, grueling training, and overall physical capabilities. She used to just do splits out of the blue in my apartment against a wall for the sheer fun of it.

But I kind of got spoiled by it since even later when I hugged very slim women, it's like, "Why are their bodies so soft everywhere?" I got so used to the most firm tummies especially. It took me a while to get used to the feeling again of holding a woman who isn't an elite athlete.

[BoopBoopBeep]

@GuyAnswersGirls123
haha yeah I hate skinnyfat the most. If you're BMI is high but you're super athletic I am completely down with that. If you're "relatively fit" and what would be considered 1980s normal. I can get down with that too. If you're 98lbs and still soft as a bag of oversaturated instant mashed potatoes... what's wrong in your life?

[GuyAnswersGirls123]

@BoopBoopBeep That gets to a pet peeve of mine in the fitness industry: "Weight loss is 80% diet and 20% exercise." I loathe that statement echoed repeatedly so much since it's difficult to quantify what any of this means exactly, but furthermore it's putting too much emphasis on weight loss and not health. The goal should be to be healthy and active above all else.

I think that bothers me more than usual since I'm a software engineer. I've worked with so many who, despite being extremely skinny, often have a slew of health issues including one that died in his 40s from being so sedentary.

So I really think exercise needs to be encouraged more than ever, especially since we have more distractions than ever before with endless streaming movies and TV shows, social media, the most time-consuming video games, etc. The last thing we should be doing it in my opinion is undermining the importance of it to the community that probably needs it more than anyone.

[BoopBoopBeep]

Yeah I was never on a strict diet when I was humping nearly 100 lbs through Salah ad Din in 130 degree heat. Of course you can't out-exercise an absolute shite diet, and if you live off nothing but fast food you're in for a mountain of suck down the road, not the least of which is malnutrition from not getting enough proper nutrients and far too much overprocessed stuff that keeps that wrapped hamburger still looking the same after 90 days on the countertop. Sitting on your butt and just watching exercise videos on tiktok aren't going to do much for you. I average between 4 and 5 hours of in-zone cardio a week, so when you expand that out, that could be as much as 8 hours overall cardio, but it's hard to stay in the zone for a full 10 miles or so straight when your knees are permanently F'ed from your past career. Since I'm struggling to put on weight and shoveling down everything my cardiology team will let me it clearly has created caloric equilibrium to deficit. Blows my mind when people are like "I only had 800 calories a day this week and I didn't lose weight"... yeah... yeah because you haven't gotten off the couch and your body now thinks you are hibernating. MOVE FFS.

[GuyAnswersGirls123]

@BoopBoopBeep Much agreed and definitely think good nutrition is vital (and something I wish I appreciated when I was younger eating lots of processed junk and drinking liters upon liters of sugary drinks). The problem to me is that "20% exercise" part.

I would like to say 100-100, since the two shouldn't interfere with each other and I often think it's when we see a synergy between physical activity and nutrition that we overcome our worst snacking and binging habits. It starts to see our "relationship with food" as they tend to call it in the weight loss community more as "fuel" for the body, and I think that's the healthiest and most natural relationship but it's only one that sees exercise and nutrition as a bundle and not independent of each other.

[GuyAnswersGirls123]

[*] [...] but it's only one that [can arise if it] sees exercise and nutrition as a bundle and not independent of each other.

[BoopBoopBeep]

FACTS!
"I ran an extra half mile I can have that second Whopper!"
No... no you can't. This is why you're fat.

Let me tell you something. I was a sous chef before the towers came down. I love good food. GOOD food. I rarely go out to eat because I can typically have better at home, and if people would just put in a minimal effort and learn to cook they could see there are so many wonderfully tasty dishes that aren't dipped in butter and salt and deep fried to epic proportions. I'm not eating sad food now. I wish I could have more of it, but one day when my heart is stronger I plan to be eating more again. People hear food is fuel and think that means it won't be enjoyable. Even race cars need fuel, but it's a sight better octane than what you're filling your Kia with.

They very much are a bundle and they very much should both be 100-100, or at least 90-90 when life gets in the way. If more people realized that we wouldn't have the obesity epidemic we have now.

[el_Te_de_la_Rosa]

@BoopBoopBeep @GuyAnswersGirls123

Thank you both of you. I still have a lot to learn. (felt like I was preached. Sincerely)

[BoopBoopBeep]

@el_Te_de_la_Rosa
I'm sure I speak for guyanswersgirls123 when I say it is our pleasure. I can occasionally drag my hands across the keyboard and wriggle out a coherent answer, but @GuyAnswersGirls123 is a producer of quality answers all the time. Good luck in your goals!

[PBandJ_Nerd]

You'll naturally see ribs on a person if they're skinny or thick. But if they're superskinny or anorexic, that's not a good thing. I could say no, but you really can't change seeing at least a little bit of ribs on a healthy body. As for the food ribs, I do love them!

[IslaTheWitch]

I don't... on the plate, women or men lol

on myself also don't like it and work on hiding it :D

[Juxtapose]

Haha I like how you bring up that if they were a lower animal they would be diagnosed with malnutrition.

[el_Te_de_la_Rosa]

You got to see what I witnessed at the gym I go recently. I'm getting annoyed. There a woman who's there and stripped the second she stepped in. Then having a trainer to record videos and taking photos of her. I had to check if I happen to be in her frame or not. I think I have to sacrifice my most peaceful time there.

[Juxtapose]

At this point it's just a place for internet prostitutes to show their barely concealed camel toe xD

[el_Te_de_la_Rosa]

And ribs 😆

[9in_Serpent]

unless they are super anorexic skinny i think it looks ok. Some people are just naturally skinny

Also girls here, my question needs more answers please! <3

Girls, What's your 2 favorite Men's Cologne?

[Lyndsielee666]

This was just a gross question to ask in general. You’re aware people with eating disorders aren’t you.

[Lyndsielee666]

People struggle with eating disorders*

[jahaims]

You are aware people aren't obligated to care, right?

[el_Te_de_la_Rosa]

I mean people who are strong enough to go to the gym, taking selfies (even asking trainers to take their pictured every single time) without actually there to workout hard enough to look at best. Just to share photos of their super skinny body online, claiming they are still fat.

[Lyndsielee666]

body dysmorphia is very much real too bud

[Anonymous]

No, it reminds me of anorexia and that ain't sexy at all

[Anonymous]

I find it horrifying. Muscles are even worse.

[el_Te_de_la_Rosa]

On both men and women? The muscles...

[12karen]

It doesn't bother me, I can see my ribs, my collarbones and my hipbones and I like it, I'm not all thin huh, I can just see them.

[Iron_Man]

No it’s so skinny

[laly520]

thats not a good way to ask it

[TallAnon]

Sure, skinny women look good

[Jennz6]

Not really

[Anonymous]

Nope