Jesus isn't anti-capitalism. He's anti "dishonest scales," or what would be considered cronyism, socialism, or "predatory capitalism."
Being privately successful isn't a sin. Charging extortionist rates is. Usury is. Resorting to grossly unfair anti-competitive market measures is. Bribing officials is. Racketeering is.
I don't mind making money on the season. But what I do mind, is when it's done at the expense of the dumbing down of the season, or at the expense of spreading corruption.
If you sell something interesting, necessary, or clever, honestly, then more power to you.
If you have to bribe a governor into treating your business differently during an engineered crisis by reminding said governor that you voted for her and the other guy didn't, then that's an obscenity. That's Michigan in 2020.
If you have to resort to cheap cash cow cash-ins, or do without any interesting variation a rehash of the same tired over-commercialized songs in order to whore your voice as a singer to the holidays just to get a bonus check from the record label, THAT, I have a problem with!
I prefer my holidays with bizarre history lessons about Jewish culture. I don't need Lee Ann Rimes for that!
If the radio station plays "One Quiet Moment" by Glad, that's commendable. Even if they play that Left Behind-ish "In the First Light" from the same album, An A Capella Christmas, 1991, whatever. But if I hear "Donovan the Donkey" again, I'm afraid I'll go postal!
If you need a better illustration of how frustrated I get, especially when everyone's so into feeling good that they ignore real problems in the world and leave Clown World injustice in place, then consider the fact that the overplayed tunes on the radio literally drove me to write an entire Krampusnacht album!
So maybe I'm more Grinch than I'd like to admit.
iTriste Malidad! iTe quemaré el ano en la tristeza!
Rockin' around, the conspiracy... Reindeer are dancing, evilly, and your dog... shot... J... F.. K!!!
This sounds awful, but I lean toward Grinch. In this I am a bit eccentric, I admit.
First, I am NO fan of winter and could pass on the snow and cold and short cloudy days. So "Let it Snow!! Let it snow!!" is definitely NOT one of my favorite Christmas carols.
Suffice to add that Spring and Summer are my favorite times of year, so anything during the Fall and Winter just does not hold that much of an attraction for me. Christmas, unfortunately, made the mistake of being held at the wrong time of year.
Then I get more eccentric - Easter Sunday is, by far, my favorite holiday. It goes without saying that I prefer spring flowers to snow showers - yes, I deliberately tried to make that rhyme. More than that, though, in my family at least, Easter was a second Christmas.
The Easter Bunny hid not only baskets, but gifts. There was - as there was at Christmas - a huge family get together where I could see my cousins and grandparents. The family decorated the house - even including lights around the windows, grant that they were pastel colors (pink, yellow, purple, baby blue) and not Christmas colors (stark red, green, blue, white.)
So at Easter I got all the fun of Christmas in much better weather and so - as I have gotten older and the louder and longer the Christmas season has gotten - the less I have liked Christmas and the more I have liked Easter.
Okay, so I am weird, I admit it. Guilty as charged.
Still, I have two little boys and my little princess and to see them so excited about Santa and the tree and all the rest does warm my heart. So for them, I have still have a soft spot. (Truth in advertising, because we do Easter the way we did it when I was a kid, my little Munchkins get just as excited about the Easter Bunny as they do Santa - so I get a twofer.)
So I voted "Grinch," though on the spectrum I would tend to the low end of "Grinch." Frankly, if the Christmas season - advertising and increasingly store decorations and all the rest - did not begin as early as it does now, I might enjoy it more. However, by the time you hit December 25th, I have pretty much been there, done that.
So what is my first thought on Christmas morning - only 4 months till Easter!!! It's odd, but my family is used to me by now.
I have always had a very Germanic/Pagan Yule-based Christmas. Which includes a lot of very ancient traditions and I love it! The focus is mainly on nature for us and we actually open presents on Christmas Eve at midnight rather than Christmas morning! I think most people have forgotten just how witchy most of the mainstream Christmas traditions still are, it would have been heresy for a Christian to bring a tree inside their house for most of history. Christians only adopted this tradition because Queen Victoria released a photo of her and her family setting up a Christmas tree in 1850, that's pretty recent! The reason was that Prince Albert was German and he wanted to have that tradition with his children.
I usually don't take astrology too seriously but I am a Leo through and through when it comes to Christmas because apparently Leos LOOOOVE giving gifts. I do a lot of second-hand shopping and baking though so usually the gifts I give have an element that is new, an antique, and something I made/baked.
from December 12 (Lady of Guadalupe's birthday) and all the way up to the 24th December at 9PM... which is baby Jesus birthday and mass, is all about baby Jesus
after 9PM on the 24th... and proper worship and celebration, we can all sinners go to party and celebrate Christmas and indulge in food and all that... lol
I can assure y’all, Jesus was NOT born on 24 or 25 December. The Bible mentions that not. The Qur’ān mentions that not as well. According to the gospels and the Qur’ān, He was born under dates blooming and winter was too cold for a barn, etc, so probably spring, summer, or autumn.
@HippieVeganJewslim But that's one of the points, we do not know when he was born, not even sure about the year. We only know when he died on the cross.
So how can we have a birthday that is not his birthday, but happens to be winter solstice? By chance! I think not.
How do you celebrate it then, but pagan symbols like nomes, Father Christmas, the Christmas tree, etc. All those things are prohibited by the bible for their pagan origin.
@smølf One-fifth of the people reject that Jesus died on a cross. Many gospels mention the cross not. The canonical gospels were written 50 years after Jesus left us. Furthermore, there’s a theory that they were drunk when Jesus was supposedly crucified and the Qur’ān says that it was another man who was crucified.
Otherwise, You’re 100% right; I agree with You. Birthdays ain’t celebrated in the old Jewish/Muslim cultures. I’m sure those Christmas tree, Father Christmas, etc are unkosher, but can You tell me where it says so?
@HippieVeganJewslim 1/5 reject that Jesus died on the cross you say, not Christians and non-Christians do not matter regarding Christmas.
There are only four canonical gospels, they all mention the cruxfixtion and the bible is quite clear.
It's true that the canonical gospels are written about 40 years or longer after the death of Jesus, but Genesis was written far later than creation and so what, it means nothing.
Unbiblical theories don't matter, nor does the falsehood called the Qurān.
@HippieVeganJewslim Yes, the Pope is not following the bible at all. The vary papacy itself is a violation of a long list of biblical principles.
99% of those identifying as Christians do not follow the most basic command Jesus gives his followers. Sex out of wedlock is one of the most often violated commands, just to give an example. But there are many, many others.
@smølf I've read from this Aussie hippie that 1% of Christians are sane. Maybe He was talking about the ones that follow the mitzvot? Extramarital sex is a big no-no, but many say that Yeshua erased the old mitzvot. He came not to erase them but to fulfill them.
@HippieVeganJewslim Jesus fulfilled it, and made a new pact to replace the old. Hardly any Christians actually follow christ, Christianity is corrupted beyond salvation.
Anti-capitalism axis tending towards Grinch... while I'm non religious, it appears that an actual Jesus may have existed, possibly with stories being added to his legacy over time and many tellings of the story before it was actually written down... Kinda like King Arthur and Robin Hood (Wood?) Also many of the traditions derive from pagan religions of old from Scandinavia, Northern Europe, and the British Isles... which Christians "kindly" allowed to continue to make conversion more palatable... all in all the popular meaning of Christmas today is "Buy shit"... It's way too over the top.
I don't know what "Grinch" is but I'm strongly anti-christmas. In the last few years I finally managed to impose a veto on the hristmas tree, so no tree enters our home anymore. And it was quite easy - since the availabilty of TV is controlled from my computer only, the condition was either no TV throughout the whole year or no stupid tree on that idiotic holiday. You can guess what the TV junkies in my family chose. :D
Now I'm working on imposing veto on the Christmas prayers and generally removing that holiday as an xtian thing from our home.
Somewhere in the middle. This year I'm going to a buffet place then a mom and pop dollar store, where I'll probably buy some knock off action figures. Because growing up that was a good Christmas for my younger brother and I. Even when we got tv dinners instead of going to a buffet. Because my mom was not in the hospital or felt like she had to work two jobs leading up to Christmas. Because she felt obligated to give my brother and I a "better" Christmas then above.
The people off the Jesus movement were not anti-capitalist. They had a problem with people who abused the system to exploit others. Unless you can prove that that is the goal of capitalism then this graphic is misleading. Jesus worked as a carpenter.
Scrooge... Just yet another way to get you to spend money. They'll hit you with Easter crap right after this, then something after that, and so on. That and it sucks when you're just trying to buy something for dinner and the place is filled with a mob of people buying a bunch of shit.
I just say as soon as Biden tries to claim spending has gone up, compare this Christmas to the last couple years before you start thinking things are getting any better.
Actually Christmas has nothing to do with Jesus, as he was born in the fall. The origins of Christmas stem from both the pagan and Roman cultures. The Romans actually celebrated two holidays in the month of December. The first was Saturnalia, which was a two-week festival honoring their god of agriculture Saturn. On December 25th, they celebrated the birth of Mithra, their sun god.
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