Is proposing to a woman for marriage bowing down on a knee a simp mangina move?

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

[TruthBringer]

The reason why I don't really approve of this 'tradition' is simply because women in today's (western) society aren't traditional anymore. I believe the pros of traditional acts should only be reserved to those who are traditional. On one hand women want to be modern and on the other they obviously want the benefits of a traditional man or traditional acts. You have to choose, either be traditional or not. Don't preach for equal rights when you're expecting a man to bend a knee.

Glad that I'm with a traditional woman who actually knows how to be and appreciate being traditional.

[Subarugirl]

Unfortunately, nobody can agree on the historical origins of this romantic gesture, but there are a few reported theories that show promise.

During the Middle Ages, chivalry was not yet dead and formal courtship was the medieval version of modern-day dating. Kneeling was also the protocol for many ceremonial rituals and rites of passage, including those of the romantic kind. Medieval artwork and literature shows knights genuflecting before their feudal lord as a sign of honor and respect, or kneeling in front of a noblewoman to express their eternal servitude and admiration in a show of “courtly love.”

But medieval rituals aren’t the only possible explanation; religion may play a role as well. Many faiths, like Christianity and Islam, have their worshippers kneel in prayer to express their devoted service and everlasting respect for their God.

In short, proposing on bended knee is a symbolism of devotion and respect.

[sheikalana]

Is just a tradition that many people like to follow I don't see it as less manly or anything negative. If my partner doesn't want to bend the knee when he proposes to me I'm perfectly fine with it. It's 2022.

[Honesttguy]

Not sure about simping move, but its definetly follower move, cus everyones doing it, come up with something on your own at least.
Like put ring on her plate and say marry me while standing and she's sitting, puts u in dominant strong frame while still asking her to be with u. I like that image

[HighValue]

I don't know, but I think showing her a ring when asking is a mistake. Then the price of the ring is being considered in her decision instead of how she feels about the person.

Use one of those candy rings out of the quarter machine instead for best results. Then you would know if she is greedy or not and if she has a good sense of humor.

[BlackTealLazer]

Bro, just stop, man. You can't ask people for their opinions and then bash them for saying kneeling is traditional.

[Bluemax]

Though it's not what I did (I held her hands while we stood facing each other), no I don't believe the men I know who *did* do it that way are simps or manginas.

[annabananna]

You’re overthinking it. Not everything has to be a power move. It’s ok to be sweet and romantic with a proposal.

[DesiUwU]

No no no it’s not. Keep doing it. It’s sweet, even if a woman does it. Let’s not break this proposal tradition.

[NathanDavis]

just out of curiosity... did you grow up without a father?

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Yes, but my mom and grandma were sufficient and provide a lot for me. My dad wasn't missed at all.

[NathanDavis]

thought so

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

It wouldn't make a difference anyways. My dad is the type not to give a flip about nothing or what people think. He lives in his own world. And I'm too rebellious to listen anyways. I always do what I wanna do.

[AviatorTom]

No, it's traditional to propose on one knee. The reasoning is simple. The guy is letting the girl know that she is important, hence above him, and that it is totally her decision.

[WhatTheHeckkkk]

No, it’s traditional.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

F*** tradition.

[WhatTheHeckkkk]

Cool. I’ll stick with my traditional “simp mangina” man 😂

[WhiteBoyChill]

@Hispanic-Cool-Guy When will you finally realize your attitude puts off women? Pathetic

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@WhiteBoyChill: Bro, you think I'm you? Don't project your silly attitude unto me because I'm not you.

I can get women easily if desire to create a dating page. I won't bow down to no women. Period.

[WhiteBoyChill]

Enjoy life single then

[WhatTheHeckkkk]

@WhiteBoyChill You’re so right, man. I’m all for a man of God but his views are backwards as hell.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@WhiteBoyChill: If I actually desire I can get a girlfriend. That's not difficult for me at all. It's pathetic men like you think you have to put woman on a pedestal to get them, in fact they will look down you.

[WhiteBoyChill]

@WhatTheHeckkkk This is also the same guy who has the audacity to complain a cop was being unfair when he went 25 over in a school zone

[WhiteBoyChill]

@Hispanic-Cool-Guy Well I guess your Dad isn’t a man either then. Seeing as he married your mom

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@WhiteBoyChill: Be careful with disrespecting my parents. Don't talk about my parents..

[WhiteBoyChill]

My argument is that your logic makes no sense. Its something every man does

[Visionary7]

@WhiteBoyChill lmao your comments kill me🤣

[DesiUwU]

you guys, both of you are gonna put any woman off lmfao

[WhiteBoyChill]

@DesiUwU The f is wrong with me?

[DesiUwU]

@WhiteBoyChill you guys are arguing like little boys. You roasted his mom. HIS MOM. How old are you?

[WhiteBoyChill]

@DesiUwU Reason being because this guy is such a wise ass he’s practically calling his own father a simp just because marriage doesn’t appeal to him

[DesiUwU]

@WhiteBoyChill true true

[WhiteBoyChill]

@DesiUwU So the irony of this is that he’s telling me not to disrespect his parents when technically that’s what he did from the start

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@WhiteBoyChill: And who told you my dad bend the knee to my mom when he married her? Quit assuming 💩

[WhiteBoyChill]

Like you actually bothered asking.

[Anonymous]

I have been hearing that feminists speak out against this especially in public because it puts pressure on the woman to respond positively, therefore it's proof that men hate women.

If those individuals have the clout to actually convince the rest of the feminists of this, I absolutely hope that men stop doing this so that more regular women realize how much of a grift feminism is.

[Visionary7]

So being a gentleman is now known as being a 'simp'.. jeez

[WhiteBoyChill]

Hence why this man has always been single. 35 years old and still can’t figure it out

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@Anon: You're not suppose to bow down to know human as if they are God.

[Visionary7]

@WhiteBoyChill lol ikr

[Subarugirl]

yeah I think that verse was talking about worshiping a human not about showing respect.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@Subarugirl: God clearly commands not to bow before anyone in the 10 commandments.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Even if He didn't. I will not bow down to a woman. Submmisive b. s. attitude.

[Subarugirl]

Bowing and kneeling are not the same thing, especially in that context. If you understood the passage at all you would know, that verse specifically is talking about idolatry worshiping other deities. Jesus himself knelt at the feet of his disciples to wash their feet, are you so prideful that you think you are better than Jesus?

[Subarugirl]

Ephesians 5:25
Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her,

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@Subarugirl: I can respect my woman, but I only will bend the knee to the lord Jesus Christ in prayer to Him or worship. Anyone else can hell off.

[Subarugirl]

Ohh I see you only pick and chose the parts of the bible that YOU want to obey... so you probably wouldn't like this verse either.

Ephesians 5:21
Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@Subarugirl: I clearly said bow down or been the knee in honor to someone else.

[Subarugirl]

I think the word you’re looking for is respect. you’re just gonna skip over the part where the Bible says for married couples to submit too each other

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@Subarugirl: A husband doesn't submit to his wife. Quit putting one liners of scriptures and not the whole context.

[Subarugirl]

Ephesians 5:21 - 28
21 Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.
22 Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.
25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her 26 to make her holy, cleansing[b] her by the washing with water through the word, 27 and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. 28 In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself.

Here is the verse in context, and it's still saying to submit to each other out of reverence for Christ. You can't just cherry pick the parts of the scripture that you like then reject the rest... I mean I guess you already are doing that... but how does that reflect on you as a self proclaimed "Christian".

[DesiUwU]

@Hispanic-Cool-Guy do u expect your wife to obey and bow to you? My answer will vary based on how you answer this question

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@Subarugirl:

Quit arguing what you don't know. What you're saying doesn't make any sense.

The proper context is for Christians to submit unto one another in terms of putting their Christian brothers and sisters best interest above their own.

Not for a man to submit to his life as you are trying to paint.

Ephesians 5:15-21:
See then that you walk circumspectly, not as fools but as wise, redeeming the time, because the days are evil.

Therefore do not be unwise, but understand what the will of the Lord is.

And do not be drunk with wine, in which is dissipation; but be filled with the Spirit, speaking to one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord, giving thanks always for all things to God the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, submitting to one another in the fear of God.

Philippines 2:3-7
Let nothing be done through selfish ambition or conceit, but in lowliness of mind let each esteem others better than himself.

Let each of you look out not only for his own interests, but also for the interests of others.

Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@DesiUwU: Yes, but I'm not the type to be harassing and bothering my woman as a control freak nor am I disrespectful towards my woman.

[Subarugirl]

No, you’re just the type of man that called him self a Christian but refuses to do the main thing you are called too… live as Christ did

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@Subarugirl: If that's how you feel and think of me, I seriously don't care. 🤷‍♂️

[Subarugirl]

I don't have to think about it, you strait ups said so "Even if He didn't. I will not bow down to a woman. Submmisive b. s. attitude."
After the bible literally tells married couples to submit to each other.

[Visionary7]

Can we just let this conversation die already JEEZ.

[Subarugirl]

@Visionary7 sure as long as Hispanic boy leaves me around, I have no tolerance for hypocrites or racists and he is both

[Visionary7]

@Subarugirl oh he's racist too😐

[Subarugirl]

Yeah, its was pretty terrible, he made a post about an interracial couple and how the black husband was causing genetic damaging, because he was black and his wife was white!

[Subarugirl]

Then we was talking about how he wanted to marry a girl the looks like his nieces...… :/

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@Subarugirl: I said that you lying prick? I said I like women that look like my mother, sister, cousins phenotypes. I only like Latin.

[Subarugirl]

Ohh my bad you like girls that look like your mother, sister and nieces... okay. Thanks for clarifying.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@Subarugirl: Shut up. You're just a damn troll. Hell off.

[Subarugirl]

Your words not mine

[Honestguyopen]

I think it traditional. I never researched where it all began. But from a distance I think it looks nice and is a moment that shows to others the man is willing to humble himself for the woman he loves.

[Sincerly_KittyCat]

No it isn't and whoever has this mentality will be alone for a very LONG time.

[Sasha_Gee]

Just a simple tradition, don't overthink it. Two knees is fine too 😉

[Azazeres]

I mean you could just Seven Brides for Seven Brothers it ( steal her, then leave the ring box somewhere conspicuous).
No, of course not. One knee for proposal, two for prayer.

[TonyMetal___86]

I'll never do such things, the one who made it is simply a submissive c*nt!

[Anonymous]

Oh please oh please give me the chance to be screwed over by you in divorce court in about ten years. And have some babies that I'm not allowed to be a real father to. It would make me absolutely miserable and that's what I deserve.

[Jintendo18]

It’s fine as long as you don’t do it in public like this asshole:

https://youtu.be/UtPkxzHKLpk

[fonduegirl]

Yeah. Next time just bring a helicopter, rain roses on me while you do it.

[exitseven]

No, it is a really cool thing to do. It is dramatic and a little over to top but that is the point.

[awkward_author]

I don't think it is. I probably wouldn't do it, though.

[BaldAvenger]

Depending upon how it's done. That picture looks like mangina. It could still be chivalrous with good imagination

[OddBeMe]

Yep. I came in the bitch and then slapped a ring on her finger and said “you belong to me, now.” She cried and called her friends. I took a nap.

[Hemoglobin]

I don’t think it is. It’s just a western culture thing. In certain Asian countries, they bow to be respectful. I don’t think they are simps.

[AkshiJanjua]

Not simp but sometimes it looks cringe if overdone like spending a lot of money and organizing an event for it

[Joker_]

lmao how dumb do you have to be to think proposing to your girlfriend is simp behaviour

[Joker_]

even @Hangry06 isn't this dumb

[Joker_]

lol‎‎

[Hangry06]

REDPILLING INTENSIFIES

[Joker_]

I'm gonna go shit in a few hours

[Hangry06]

Think about this while shitting-
If men are only as faithful as their options, does that mean faithful men are undesirable men?
So if a woman has a faithful SO, did she end up with a guy no other woman wants?

[Joker_]

Yeah, that's quite accurate

[Hangry06]

So a man's loyalty has no value. Sad

[Joker_]

Certainly not if that's his only value

[Honesttguy]

Wait so marrying is cool and others are idiots for thinking otherwise? I guess coming from 18y makes sense what u got to lose, right? Marrying for you might be upgrade but for many men out there its not, and if you can't see that then im sorry thats something u have to work on then, expand your awareness. If what i say sounds challanging to you then forget it, in the end u live your life, do as you seem fits to your needs.

[Joker_]

@Honesttguy Didn't read

[Honesttguy]

doesn't matter

[Joker_]

gg‎‎‎‎‎‎

[Honesttguy]

I learned to read when i was 8y and you're 18y, sucks bro

[ALewis30]

Maybe. Not many guys ask women out as romantic or gentlemen like as they used to.

[Anonymous]

It's an alpha move. If you've picked the right one.

[Honesttguy]

How is it alpha move?
Wouldn't alpha have harrem instead of just 1 women. Alpha chimps had multiple women with babies while others male chimps had 1 women with baby. So how is that alpha?

[Opinion Owner]

@Honesttguy that's an extra level of Alpha if you can keep and support multiple women at the same time. Alpha Alpha or Apha Pappa depending on the attractiveness of these women.

[DonkeyDan]

Nope, it's the right and proper way to do it.

[DonkeyDan]

You're a sad little man aren't you, well I use the word man loosely and only to denote your gender, you're clearly not actually a real man. No wonder you're single and likely always will be.

[rabbitzzz]

At least some people have a woman for that.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

It's embarrassing. I'll rather die alone than to bend the knee to someone especially for love.

I bend the knee only for the Lord Jesus Christ who alone is worthy of such act. No human is.

[rabbitzzz]

Well no one is forcing you. Jesus won't marry you though. He isn't gay.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Bowing the knee is a act of high honor and submission only to be reserved for the Lord Jesus Christ only and everyone will bow the knee to the lord Jesus Christ one day.

Philippians 2:10-11
That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

[KatherineJ]

Of course not! It’s sweet!

[Waldoe]

that question is a simp/mangina move

[CallmeTheKnight]

You guys take stuff too seriously

[romantic6655]

What matters is honesty, sincerity, sacrifice

[TexasRed95]

A what move? What are you trying to ask exactly?

[Naughtyboy71]

Think it cool bowing down asking her to marry him

[Dinosaursandanime65]

No but it’s kinda cringe/cliche.

[Chthou95]

What dude wants to get married still? Retards

[MrSmithee]

yeah

[grega239]

It is now.