Why are people being forced into marriages and childbearing?

[cth2188]

I got a chance to look at the Republicans proposal for Project 2025, and I don't support childless women being forced to marry or have children if they don't desire to. I don't support traditional marriages and won't be chained to a ball to a man. I want to be clear that I had my children and experiences being married - never again. I see only women will be taxed and not men. What do you think? I'm also respect the fact that everyone has different religious / my body and my choice beliefs.

Updates

+1 y

If you have not researched project 2025 why are you posting blindly?

[D_Bone_Steak]

Sounds like you got hit by a particular part of leftest propaganda. If you got hit by a particular part of rightest propaganda you would be thinking that the women are out there trying to get a bachelor tax... meaning you have to pay taxes to women if you refuse to get married.

It's all bullshit. Take a deep breath... getting you psyched out is what they were probably up to. It's a known fact that leftists idolize some show called handmaidens tale... so put one and one together and it should be clear where this particular brand of bullshit is actually coming from and then being painted as the other.

That's just my hunch about this bullshit, but I've never heard about this bullshit... I guarantee it's bullshit though.

If it's coming from any political party... it's probably bullshit. They don't care about us. Right or left. We're all just pawns to them.

[cth2188]

I came across it ice asked God to keep me single due to the times were in.. not everyone is Godly or living right. I'm just celibate and not interested in what's going on out here anymore.

[cth2188]

And ^

[cth2188]

We're playing out in revelations

[D_Bone_Steak]

It wouldn't surprise me. The general message I seem to hear the most here in the last 20 years is pretty much anything to cause divisions. Get the genders to fight... the races... the different sexualities, and so on. I've never seen the lower class Americans pick political sides and just go at it the way it's being done now.

This is how I see it all from my perspective...
The strong want to do their own thing and just be left alone. The weak are trying to force us all to do what they want us to do for their own reasons... and they just won't leave the rest of us alone.

The bold and the fearful. Basically.

[inhua]

why are you speaking on this as if it only affects women?

not as if Democrats and the political left have been shitting on single men for years calling them creeps, perverts, losers, incels, terrorists and monsters who need to hunted and be put down because they don't have or don't want female validation

if women want to live the strong, independent lifestyle, then fine but it's funny how they turn around and shit on MGTOW men for their choices and try to womansplain their own motives for them as if they're criminals

[cth2188]

Who mentioned mgtow? That was the tip of that proposal out of 920 pages

[Brittanyroseee]

Everyone has different priorities, interests, goals, likes, and dislikes in this world. Not everyone wants marriage and kids.. and thats fine! Its never been a priority of mine. My priority always has been to be able to financially support myself, go to vet school, work in the field i enjoy which im doing now and get my own little place with the pets i want and maybe one day find my soulmate. Kids have never been an interest of mine. They are also a lot of work and a huge responsibility in which im not interested in doing. Being a traditional wife and staying at home with kids sounds terrible to me in all honesty. I agree with you! I don’t want to be constrained 24/7 to another person. I enjoy being free and having my privacy. It’s for people who desire them. I also don’t rely on other people to not feel “lonely” so all that alone BS needs to stop!

[cth2188]

Agreed I love my independence and freedom but don't follow Christian doctrines and believe in God , but this is dictatorship control

[cth2188]

I have kids , but want no more! I was for the trad life until I realized that most men aren't traditional! If I do remarry, it would not be with the traditional marriages of today

[Brittanyroseee]

I agree. I believe in god, but I don’t believe everyone should have kids and get married. Its a personal choice and not everyone who does get married, needs to have children

[cth2188]

Agreed 💯

[Brittanyroseee]

If i marry someone i want it to be a career oriented person who puts all their focus on me and wanting a good stable life. Not caring about kids and having a servant wife

[Brittanyroseee]

People tell me im weird and selfish for not wanting kids but its just my personal preference and i also really don’t want to deal with pregnancy and let alone giving birth

[cth2188]

Agreed or control things and understand teamwork

[Brittanyroseee]

I would love to get married and find my life partner and my other half, but I don’t care to have kids with him

[cth2188]

I don't want anymore kids nor desire traditional marriages anymore as most of the men aren't worth it. I've been single since my divorce and lost interest in dating

[Apple1996]

I don't get it either. If women want to be single and childless then good for the. I have kids and a husband but that doesn't mean everyone else has to live like me. It's hard work and I don't blame anyone for wanting to live a stress free life without all that. People should live however they want

[cth2188]

I agree 100 this is insane 😳

[Apple1996]

Yeah like just let people live how they want. No reason to control everyone

[cth2188]

Exactly I plan on leaving the USA next year

[Andres77]

Please do. Spare the rest of us your insanity

[cth2188]

Thanks @Apple1996 ❤️ 😊

[Apple1996]

Yes ofc. And I don't blame you id leave to

[Gent207-2]

Okay

1st.) This Project is not supported or proported by the Republican party. Literally says:The 2025 Presidential Transition Project is being organized by The Heritage Foundation and builds off Heritage’s longstanding “Mandate for Leadership,” which has been highly influential for presidential administrations since the Reagan era."

2nd Fuck both parties and may we all die sooner rather than later

[cth2188]

I don't agree with it it's insane 😳 I gotta leave the USA if this is enforced

[cth2188]

I read it is crazy

[Gent207-2]

@cth2188
Like the democrats social justice projects are any better?

P. S nobody is stopping you from leaving

[cth2188]

I support neither side by the way..

[CalmUntilAbused]

While forcing anyone into a relationship is an abysmal idea, the demographic crisis is a serious matter and it's probably an attempt to solve the issue.

[cth2188]

Forcing someone to date will not work - due to a lot of beliefs I have I'm simply not interested in dating or marriage anymore

[cth2188]

Women who dont want to date or marry shouldn't be forced too - if men want to marry and have children, they should find women who do

[cth2188]

Men have blantly said they were going overseas

[Anonymous]

What is this proposal? I never heard of that. I wouldn't want to marry a single mom. A single mom already ruined another man's life I don't want her to ruin mines. I never heard of this proposal it sounds like made up bs.

[cth2188]

No one is asking men to date single mothers - why don't you research these prospers? Proposal has nothing to do with just that. Single women / child free women , and divorced women are asked to be left alone

[cth2188]

We are not interested in married , having children, or being tied to a man as a slave

[cth2188]

Hence why 45% of women are opting out of marriage, and children

[Opinion Owner]

I don't know what this 2025 proposal for forcing women into marriage is. That's good I don't want a woman to ruin my life. I have surrogacy if I want to start a family and I can afford it. I don't want a marriage with a woman either.

Who is forcing women to marry? It sounds like made up bs.

[cth2188]

What part did you not get 45% or higher is opting out of marriage and kids so your pool of women who wants babies and marriage is small you're probably better off going overseas. I'm not interested in marriage or having anymore children as I've been married and have my kids / now divorced. I'm content in my single life- my children are almost teens ! So good luck ! This proposal has nothing to do with that and instead of posting go research before blindly posting with emotions.

[cth2188]

You don't know about project 2025 but posting

[cth2188]

Stop posting unless you know what I'm talking about

[Opinion Owner]

I don't want a girlfriend or a woman overseas or in the US. I saved worked hard so I can pay for gestational, surrogacy. Women are useless to me.

I read project 2025 and I still don't see anything about forcing marriages. All it is is making Trump into a dictator. I don't support project 2025. And I can post wherever I want.

[cth2188]

Forced marriages are included taxing single and childless women as well as brining back the nuclear family for single mothers into forced marriages or child removals. I'm well content in my life and build a life for me and my children / without the assistance of a man. I can tell you now divorced women , single moms, and childless women aren't not going to date men nor bare anymore children hence why the opt out of 45% of single women. I'm part of that 45% and not interested in marriage or having anymore children supporting the patriarch. If women are ok being a baby making machine and a slave for a man that's their choice.. women like me want to be left alone and not forced into something we don't want to do

[cth2188]

That plan is forcing women or they'll be taxed or worse.

[cth2188]

I don't support the patriarch nor support the lack of equality for women and men.. I'm not a slave for a man nor believe in submission

[cth2188]

Regardless of project 2025 American women have opted out most of us

[Anonymous]

Every woman had a choice. Let a guy screw them or not. You are a blind selfish fool

[cth2188]

Stfu

[cth2188]

Why women are opting out 45 to 60% I stand with them no one is going to be a baby making machine or a slave to a man

[cth2188]

Good luck to men and I wish they and men would leave the rest of us alone

[cth2188]

Not here to tell women what to do but don't drag the rest of us in this bs and this patriarch

[cth2188]

I domt support the patriarch never did and never will

[Opinion Owner]

Go try to open a pickle jar by yourself you weak ignorant silly thing.
How can you be a slave if you never open your legs?
Patriarchy? Biology b

[cth2188]

You must be slow 🐌 or poor comprehension I've been married and had kids nor interested in either anymore

[Opinion Owner]

My problem with you is that you got married and cry about being a victim because you “were forced”.
Just don’t date or get married again and stop whining like a female canine.
Solved.
I’ll send you a bill.

[cth2188]

I'm not crying about anything- I'm conferring to a policy - why post? Gtfo off my post you aid to nothing to this post

[cth2188]

Get your passport or fuck a goat

[cth2188]

I'm glad I divorced my ex-husband's best thing once a cheater is always a cheater - 🙂 best thing I have ✌️

[Opinion Owner]

Clever

[Opinion Owner]

Erase my comments that make you face reality so everyone thinks that you won

[Opinion Owner]

Prove one forced marriage in the last 100 years in the US

[cth2188]

The only reality is women opting out of marriage and childbearing less of this patriarch bs

[cth2188]

1950s era where women relyed on men nkt anymore

[cth2188]

Not ^ those days won't happen

[Opinion Owner]

How is it a patriarchy? If when the guy says will you marry me you say no?

[Opinion Owner]

Because you spread your legs because you’re an idiot and you know you can’t support yourself so you said yes?

[cth2188]

It's after the ring and when you're married

[cth2188]

I have a business and self-employed 😌

[Opinion Owner]

Work with me I’m trying to figure out how the one guy that you picked his made all men evil because you’re a fool.

[cth2188]

I've seen enough with you men and xys total trash 🗑 don't think all men are evil and bad bit think the majority of you don't qualify for wives or submission

[Opinion Owner]

There exists no planet where only women exist. You never built a single building or road or industry without the help of a man. Go whine in the corner, you weak excuse for a human. You should be ashamed of yourself. I pity your children. I don’t condone cheating but if I had to come home to you everyday, I’d completely understand

[cth2188]

Like I said most men are trash 🗑 just reality most women should stay single

[cth2188]

I'll never marry again and thank God I have my freedom and independence got rid of my ex

[cth2188]

You'll chest if you have faithful wives too why the divorce rate is high

[Opinion Owner]

You want so much to be a victim and coddled. Just grow TF up and be a better human being and try to teach your poor kids to be self sufficient and not co-dependent on you because you are a fear/monger and weak.

[cth2188]

Cheat ^ so glad to be SINGLE

[Opinion Owner]

You are insane. You hate the idea of God yet you thank Him for giving you clarity. You blame God and then refuse to admit His existence because you had a (pos) cheating husband. And now you’re happy but curse all men because you were stupid enough to marry a dirt bag when you have your own issues but now blame ALL men for the failures of the only pos guy willing to marry you.
You poor silly broken little girl. I pity your children. Not all men are bad. Just the pos you thought you deserved. And now you’re going to teach your kids that all men are bad. I’m sorry you were hurt. To curse all men as you ride the coat-tails of the “me too” movement just says you’re a weak parasite that doesn’t care about fixing the problem, all you care about is throwing blame on the most popular “cause” and bear no responsibility for yourself.
I truly pity your children, especially if you have a boy.

[cth2188]

I believe on God but don't want another relationship from here nor marriage

[cth2188]

Not blaming men just don't have the energy to keep dealing with men or relationships as they're draining

[cth2188]

In ^ at some point you get tired of dating and this is where I'm at now

[cth2188]

Didn't say all men are bad said most of you are trash and dont deserve submission or wives less more relationships - at this point I want to be single

[Opinion Owner]

The question you posed is disingenuous. MEN are not forcing you to marry.

[cth2188]

I'm conferring to the project 2025 if you read the title and understood what that proposal is saying

[cth2188]

Clearly you have no ideal what this post is about

[cth2188]

You're just running with your emotions

[Opinion Owner]

If a man asks to marry you, you have the option to say “no”. If you’re pregnant then you opened your legs. Mutual responsibility. Stop being so fu&&ing lazy and blaming the man for your weakness.
I know you’re smart but your pain is making you act and say stupid stuff.
I truly pity your children because your weakness is going to cause them to make really poor choices because they are going to consider victimhood as a career option.

[cth2188]

Pls stop responding atp

[cth2188]

You're ignorant and clearly triggered by this post

[Opinion Owner]

I operate on fact. I pity your children and I curse you, that you that any man that sees how attractive you are physically will actually be able to see how black your heart is. So as long as you curse all men because of the pos husband that you deserved then no man will ever find you attractive in any way shape or form.
Here’s an idea.
STFU.
Be a good mom and don’t curse all men because you are an ignorant and hurt child.
You are hurt. Obvious. Seek help (because if you love your children you should hope for their best hope, and not an insane bitter woman to raise psychopaths). If you love your children then you will seek professional help.
Pity pity pity…but if you’re so smart you get help and then stop the insane train.

[cth2188]

🚫 you give me a headache

[cth2188]

You men are emotional- had enough of you men

[Opinion Owner]

Women = emotional
Men = facts
You can’t handle truth.

[Opinion Owner]

You’re weak and aftaid of navigating the world without a man’s help. You need someone to blame your failures on. If you REALLY had a business then you wouldn’t have the time to be in here. You’re so full of caca, it’s really just sad.

[Opinion Owner]

Finally

[cth2188]

I wish men the best idc what men do

[cth2188]

I pay men for services but don't expect much beyond that

[cth2188]

No sex no marriage no relationship nothing - I focus on myself and money 💯

[cth2188]

Simply tired of men

[cth2188]

I've been solo 12 years and stop expecting anything from men

[cth2188]

I take care of my needs and that's it - men are incapable of love

[cth2188]

I have a holistic business and barely on here.. I'm focused on one of my careers

[cth2188]

I have decentered men

[Opinion Owner]

Whatever happened to you to hurt you so much, I’m sorry. But to curse all men as horrific is as bad and stupid as to curse all butterflies as tyrants. Good luck with your business. Don’t be fooled, you’re not as smart as you think you are. Stop bashing all men because you had a bad experience.
I hope to God that you do not impart your evil hate of men to your children. If you have a boy I hope he finds a role model away from you so he doesn’t grow up hating himself. I pity your children. Your hate and vitriol towards all men because you had sex with a dirtbag is stupid and lazy. Do you do yoga? Your body might be healthy for now but your mind is toxic.

[cth2188]

I realized men aren't capable of love. Most of you aren't. I realized being single is better less drama , less nagging , less bs, less std risk, and less heartache.. I'm content single and wish men would understand that some of us rather be single then date and deal with bs when it comes to dating

[cth2188]

I chose better - I chose me and healing / peace / serenity

[cth2188]

There's nothing toxic about me I refuse to deal with another relationship and man after gaining peace and serenity for myself.. my children will not date you xys and go through what I went through..

[cth2188]

I found peace in healing and myself nor do I hate men - just done dealing with men and relationships

[cth2188]

I enjoy my quiet peaceful single life and my journey ended in 2014 with men after my ex husband.. attempted to date men and realized I was better off single

[cth2188]

I don't hate men I wish you all the best - I just understand men

[cth2188]

I wish men the best but leave women alone who want to be left alone on their self love journey

[Opinion Owner]

Here’s the difference. I’m done with women because I know that I don’t understand them and I admit my shortcomings. So I choose to be alone. You are blaming men and choose to be alone. You are blaming ALL men and admitting no responsibility. If you have a boy you are blaming him too, and so will effeminate him. So yes, you are toxic as fuck. “I wish men the best” is bs.
Casting blame first without taking any responsibility yourself means you’re blind.
“Forcing women to marry” is as stupid a comment as Biden saying that the republicans are going to put blacks back in chains.
This was a stupid post and you want to blame men for your troubles and take no responsibility for your actions.

[cth2188]

I'm not blaming mem - um not interested in dating or anymore relationships period. I don't have the energy or time anymore.. I've come to the place that most of you men are not capable of love nor do you understand women.. I wish men the best from here, but my life is better away from men and the bs that comes with dating... it's not worth it to date as I have been single 12 years by choice. Im realizingits safer to be singleandpeaceful.

[cth2188]

My children will not date in this crazy climate especially my girls

[cth2188]

I'm done with dating all together and after having my traumatic experiences with men I see no benefit in dating or dealing with another man from here. I'm sorry

[cth2188]

I'm ^ as I'm not interested

[cth2188]

I see no benefit to marriage or dating anymore as I don't want children or desire marriage.. not looking to be chained to a man or a ball

[Opinion Owner]

That’s just you then. So you’re using this platform to whine? That’s understandable. Lots of people just want to be heard. Don’t worry. No one is going to marry you. You’re safe.

[cth2188]

You're just as annoying as tge last guy I almost blocked 🚫. You men make my head hurt.. this post was about a proposal in regards to the next presidential election and republican policies yet you made it about me and my dating life 🤣😒 please have a good day

[cth2188]

The furthering proving you men can't even have an intellectual emotional conversation

[Opinion Owner]

Here’s an idea smarty pants. Post your source. How is proposal 2025 going to force women into marriage?
If you would have stayed on point we could have had a discussion. Now you’re backpedaling on post

[cth2188]

Nope go research the proposal before posting

[Opinion Owner]

I looked for it and all I found was climate change stuff.
Obviously you have not been to school Anytime lately. If you make any kind of a claim and it is on you to post the source.. not expect other people to do the work just because you had an idea. So in addition to being a whiner and toxic, you’re also uneducated and lazy.
If you make a claim post your source

[cth2188]

920 pages is not about climate control 🙄 page 1 doesn't address that

[Opinion Owner]

Still. Post your source.

[cth2188]

https://www.project2025.org/policy/

[cth2188]

" Read the mandate" tab

[Opinion Owner]

Excellent! Thank you. Let me review it and I’ll get back to you.

[cth2188]

OK sure

[Opinion Owner]

There’s a note, a forward, 30 chapters and an afterward.
No mandate.

[cth2188]

I read this already.. like I said, I wish men the best from here, but it's attack on women most definitely with the abortion / surrogate/ women rights policy, even mentioning Susan B Anthony

[cth2188]

I think it's time for both sexes to part ways especially women and men who don't want to date each other

[cth2188]

Good luck to you men

[Opinion Owner]

And so ends the human race because of quitters.

[cth2188]

Welp you men can date each other

[Opinion Owner]

And so ends the human race.

[Opinion Owner]

You are really insane.

[cth2188]

There's some women out there 30% I'm hearing the rest of us are out and done ✔️

[cth2188]

Less nagging Less bs Less drama etc dealing with man plus its safer and healthier

[Opinion Owner]

Are you still here? I thought you were leaving the country

[cth2188]

I will be leaving the USA is project 2024 becomes a thing

[Opinion Owner]

Yeah, right. More broken promises right around the corner

[cth2188]

Good luck to you men, sorry

[cth2188]

If ^ .

[cth2188]

I'm sure you can find a woman

[cth2188]

I'm sure most of you can I've been through enough with men dating and love not to risk myself again

[cth2188]

I choose me

[Opinion Owner]

That’s one, it’s a start.

[cth2188]

It's 60% of women