If you are you getting married, would you sign a prenup?

[iamnash]

[Anonymous]

Probably…. If I ever married someone. I wouldn’t want to be used for money or use someone for money. It’s insurance. You don’t get car insurance because you plan on getting into a crash.


I believe marriage shouoe be a lifelong commitment. But things happen. Sure I would want to trust someone I marry. But at the same time. I think if there’s trust. That neither person would be opposed to writing a prenup in case something did happen.

[Opinion Owner]

I don’t think it’s distrust as other people are saying. I think it’s the exact opposite. If I had a lot of money and married someone. I would want to know they don’t plan on divorcing me and taking it.

If I married a woman with more money then me. I would want her to know the same thing.

Both people should sit down and figure out what’s right for them. I think it’s weird when someone is so opposed to a prenup

[exitseven]

Sure. When I got married we both were broke. We laughed about signing a prenup.

[exitseven]

Thanks for the MHO😎

[wolfcat87]

Never, what's the point in getting married if they are already thinking selfishly and have one foot out the door planning to leave?

[Summeroflove]

That or someone planning to divorce someoke to take their money. You don’t get car insurance because you plan on getting in a crash.

Things happen. Both people should agree on what is in the contract. In case something was to happen. Not that you plan on it happening.

[wolfcat87]

@Summeroflove Just have to be pickier about who to marry. But, going in like this is already a bad omen. I guarantee they have higher divorce rates. There aren't really any studies on it, but over 60% of people view prenupts negatively. They are anti marriage. A marriage is about two becoming one. Marriage are about loving completely. Marriage isn't a car.

[Summeroflove]

Marriage is different then picking a car. Obviously you HAVE to be careful who you marry and choose wisely.

But. I think part of trust is saying if something was to happen. I know she won’t divorce me to take half of what I have, or vice versa.

[wolfcat87]

@Summeroflove If you genuinely love someone, they won't have to take anything. Everything would be given freely. 😌

[Summeroflove]

Then you can trust that someone isn’t marrying you for money. Obviously not all women do this or men. But there is people who marry someone with the intention of divorcing them later down the road.

Having a prenup is a way to have trust that if anything was to happen. You know whose getting what

[Summeroflove]

What do you mean given freely? If someone was divorcing someone. I would say the love is over and someone who loves you wouldn’t want to take from you anyways.

[Summeroflove]

A prenup is a thing. Everyone should do what’s best between them. If I was to hypothetically marry someone with more money or whatever then I have. I would want there to be trust. That I don’t plan on taking what she has or divorcing her later on

[wolfcat87]

@Summeroflove Most states don't allow a partner to take anything they had before marriage unless they mix assets. So, keep those assets unmixed if you're worried. Don't take out any life insurance plans made out to them. Write a will. All are more respectable than a prenupt.

Although, I wouldn't go for those things either. It's all or nothing over here. That's why we've been together 17 years. If we split, we'd still take care of each other and share.

[wolfcat87]

@Summeroflove A prenuptial is anti trust.

If people would stop loving at divorce, then someone in the relationship never really loved the other... Sometimes people divorce just because they grow apart. Doesn't mean there's no love.

[Summeroflove]

You say you already basically have a agreement that if you split. So a prenup is having it on paper

[Summeroflove]

Why would you even have a plan if you split? It kind of contradicts what you said. Like I said. DO WHAT IS BEST FOR YOU.

What may be right for you and your partner. Everyone is different

[wolfcat87]

@Summeroflove What? It seems you misunderstood me. A prenuptial agreement is a selfish thing. We have no signed agreement about money or finances. We share everything, and that wouldn't stop. Not even remotely related.

[Summeroflove]

I don’t think it’s selfish. If BOTH people agree to sign it. Saying who has legal rights to what.

[wolfcat87]

@Summeroflove Sigh, because women ask weird hypotheticals over time. Not the same as planning a divorce before we even get married and making our partners sign a contract... Our point was that nothing would really change if we ever did split which just reaffirmed that the would never be any point. It was part of a whole conversation about what our lives would be like if we weren't together. Which was set off by a country song. 🎵 🎶 🤣
https://youtu.be/zQYORsIfFE0?si=GC3XfNLIOnTaW32K

[Summeroflove]

I think everyone asks hypotheticals. What if this or that happens. You seem very defensive and it makes me wonder about you.

A prenup is not saying you will split. It’s saying IF something was to happen. Who has legal rights. I think it also says you trust one another.

[Summeroflove]

And do men not ask hypotheticals? If you wanna ask hypotheticals. What if you have a house or something with sentimental value. That you should get the house if you split.

[wolfcat87]

@Summeroflove A prenuptial is inherently selfish no matter who agrees to it. Much like keeping separate finances.

Having a conversation and correcting your confused assumptions is defensive? Weird.

A prenupt says you don't trust the other person. You've said it repeatedly that it's about making sure they don't take your stuff. Accurate.

Asking a hypothetical is not the same as having your partner sign a contract because you want something. If you love each other, then you'll be able to discuss it and agree if you do split.

[Summeroflove]

How is it selfish? If both people are making agreements. I think it says you do trust each other that you won’t try to do something to take sometjijt from the other

[Summeroflove]

If you ask hypotheticals some could say you don’t trust each other. I still don’t understand why you think only women ask hypotheticals either.

[wolfcat87]

@Summeroflove As you stated, a prenupt is due to fear that she will take everything when you divorce. That's not trust, and it's selfish.

Too funny, I don't think you understand how hypotheticals work. 😳😅 They don't have to have any real basis in reality to be asked. They are usually just random thoughts. Women are known to ask them very often. Much like the infamous, "would you love me if I were a worm?" question. Men aren't in the habit of asking those types of questions, which is demonstrated by you not understanding them at all.

[Summeroflove]

It’s not based out of fear. It’s just based off of if something would happen. If a woman has no intentions of doing that she wouldn’t have a problem signing it and she may also have things she would want in ir as well.

You also seem to be sexist

[Summeroflove]

Would you love me as much if I was a worm, is a lot different then if a relationship would fail or not.

I think most people think about things long term. What if this happens. What if that happens. But I can’t help sexist piggies

[wolfcat87]

@Summeroflove You confuse experienced with your inexperienced assumptions. 🤣

You are clearly no Don Juan, and you don't understand men or women. That's sad.

Scientifically, there are many measurable differences in the behavior and thought processes between men and women. Imagine foolishly thinking science is sexist for pointing out the obvious. 🤔

[Summeroflove]

Oh whatever there you go again. I happen to be a dude. Yeah I’m a lot different then other men. Not all men are the same. Neither are all women.

It’s just people like you are very defensive over things. It’s okay for you to question things. But not him

[wolfcat87]

@Summeroflove Things no one ever said or did. 🤣 Definitely lost in some weird delusion.

[tremendousfern]

"What's the point in getting married if they are already thinking selfishly and have one foot out the door planning to leave?" You wouldn't think like this if you were a man who had to put up with increasingly unloyal, naggy women and divorce courts stacked against you.

Simply put, a marriage for a man is all risk and no reward. That's why prenups are more popular than ever.

[wolfcat87]

@tremendousfern Married men are happier, get promoted faster, make more money, are healthier, live longer, have sex more often, are more cared for and coddled, etc. There are tons of rewards, that's why most men choose to marry and stay married. 🙃😊😁

[tremendousfern]

That's not true at all. It's a coin flip as to whether a marriage will be successful or not. Now do the stats for the other 50% of men who are divorce raped and you'll see what I mean.

[wolfcat87]

@tremendousfern Except only about 30% of men have ever been divorced. People who divorce and remarry multiple times skew divorce statistics.

Out of the ones who divorce from their first marriage, the median were married over 22 years. They more than benefitted from their wives who helped pamper them, keep them healthy, and made them wealthier.

Out of the divorced men, 80% of women filed for divorces in those marriages because the man let himself go, cheated, and/or wasn't doing his job.

So, no one is divorce "raped". What a gross misuse of the word. Especially when divorces only count assets made AFTER marriage TOGETHER.

[tremendousfern]

All of that ignores everything I said. You aren't even talking about the same thing as me.

"80% of women filed for divorces in those marriages because the man let himself go, cheated, and/or wasn't doing his job" And that's just a blatant lie. Most divorces are no-fault. Women initiate those divorces because they want to live a comfy life of luxury on his dime without lifting a finger. It's a scam and one that you are lying to try to justify.

[wolfcat87]

@tremendousfern I went through and answered what you said step by step.

No fault has little to do with why women are filing and everything to do with local laws. 😆 Many states are no fault states meaning the reason you are divorcing doesn't matter at all to the law.

Considering woman pay alimony in 1 out of every 5 of cases and are the main breadwinners in 40% of marriages, by your logic men are also getting divorced to live a comfy life of luxury on her dime without lifting a finger. 🤣 Or, are women filling for divorce because they want to pay for these men? You sound delusional.

On top of that, alimony is rarely for life. It's generally half the length of the marriage. Alimony is only awarded in 15% of cases. That clearly has no correlation to 80% of divorces being filed by women...

[Summeroflove]

She does have a point about married men. Married to GOOD women. Men married to shitty wives are the opposite. It’s better to be alone

[Summeroflove]

There is women who divorce their wives because she’s making more money. It’s funny when she ends up giving half of everything to him, giving part of her pensions, everything.

But a prenup would have stopped that.

[tremendousfern]

You're completely incoherent. If women are 40% of breadwinners but only 20% of them pay alimony that supports my argument. The rest of what you have to say is just cope. "Oh don't worry you're not fucked for life, just half the length of your marriage."

[tremendousfern]

@Summeroflove 100% agree with you. I think marriage is a great thing that's beneficial for both men and women that has been corrupted by feminism and other hateful ideologies.

[Summeroflove]

@tremendousfern absolutely there is also traditional women who just seem to hate men as well. There was one weirdo lusting after her own grandpa. Sure some men are effeminate now. But that’s another story.

A relationship should be about love. A lot of “feminists” want the benefits of modernism AND traditionalism. They don’t think men need to get anything in return

[wolfcat87]

@tremendousfern... You don't seem to interpret statistics well.

You're also clearly not the marrying type. 🙄 I guarantee if a woman left you, it wasn't because of money.

[tremendousfern]

@Summeroflove Yeah, the "trad wife" is kind of a meme. All I'm interested in is if she's a decent person. And you're right - there's plenty of effeminate and plain shitty men out there as well that women have to put up with. I don't like interacting with them either. I'm willing to see things from both sides, but I think pretending that modern marriage isn't incredibly more risky for men is just being naive.

[tremendousfern]

Oh no! My whole ego hinges on if women will give me pussy or not! You've really shown me the error of my ways. :)

[wolfcat87]

@tremendousfern The point always goes right over your head. 🤣 How do you function?

[PrincessFlora]

Yeah because I don't really have rights to his past money

[LiamJHayden]

Umm, anyone who opts for a prenup should really make sure he or she chooses a great attorney. Where I live pre-marital agreements regularly get set aside, in whole or in part, by judges for a number of reasons. Some include.

1. Failure to have separate attorneys. I cannot count the number I've seen tossed out because of this conflict of interest.

2. Unfairness. If you make $500K+ per year and intend for the spouse to be a housewife / househusband, do not try to have a "no alimony" or ridiculously limited alimony, like $1000 per month, set in a a prenup. The judge will laugh as he or she runs it through the shredder.

3. Violation of public policy.

[HawkPerception]

It's the only way I'm getting married. No matter how in love people feel in the moment, people change. People can fall out of love. It's not about going into a marriage prepared to fail. It's about going into a marriage and preparing for a worst case scenario. Especially with divorce rates as high as they are nowadays, it's dumb not to do it. If a girl can't understand and respect that, then she isn't the one.

[tremendousfern]

I think these days with how divorce courts are, it's a requirement. A woman being willing to sign a prenup would be a great sign that she's actually committed to being in a healthy lifelong relationship and isn't just out to divorce rape me. And like another anon said, make sure you use good attorneys who make sure everything is done correctly.

[Fireguy17]

I did, and we did.
No issues at all.
It was both our second marriages, and there was a fairly large income disparity between us.
This way we are both protected with what we had before we were married, as well as our retirement stuff.
Wasn't expensive at all to do.

[BoopBoopBeep]

I've never gotten serious with a woman who didn't want the prenup as much as me, but I also don't tend to date broke women. I dont PLAN on getting in a car wreck, but I still wear my seatbelt and get car insurance.

[Billlewis]

For her benefit, yes, but only for her benefit.

[maj1nall]

What's a marriage contract? It's a sign of distrust. What's the point of being a family if we don't trust each other?

[CuriousMufuxka]

Most definitely. Woman I love ya, but you're not getting half my shit if this doesn't work out!

[sarahstar13]

I didn't when I got married

[Anonymous]

i am requiring it. i'm not dumb.

[TheSpaceGnome]

A prenup is required.

[jamesgoldman]

Sure as long as they sign mine

[CozyCoffin]

I don't have anything to lose

[888theGreat]

Sounds good to me

[dudeinohio]

Nope