Would you vote in favor of a two-tier marriage system?

[Anonymous]

One that has 0 financial impact to either party, and no post-marriage benefits, and the other that follows the current system we have. And when people marry, they both have to agree on which type of marriage it is.

Yes

No

Results

[Unit1]

So basically all that this new marriage tier is is none other than changing marital status to married? Thinking about what's the point of it if a relationship is the same but without the change in the marital status. You can bet your ass, that no woman would ever go for that new marriage tier.

No offense but women and their marriage-gasm.

[LiamJHayden]

How does no obligations or rights even qualify as a marriage?

[Asker]

For the same reason people have been marrying for thousands of years before divorce courts were a thing. A union between two people, recognized by the community, government, and sometimes religion.

My return question for you is: how does a marriage only qualify as a marriage only if there are financial obligations placed on the people involved?

[LiamJHayden]

You shifted what I said for "obligations" to "financial obligations." Why assume that is the meaning? History obligations included rights to sexual fidelity., for example.

[Smashingdoozy]

why do people keep asking shit like this. Prenuptial agreements exist for a reason. If you are worried about your partner stealing your money either 1. Don't fucking marry someone you can't trust? Or 2. Get a prenup!

[Asker]

Why does this make you angry? I've never seen a question like this, and this wouldn't be anywhere close to what a prenuptial can legally do. If you had to lie to respond, then why respond at all? You shouldn't take time to do an honest moral inventory. It would really make a difference with certain aspects of your life.

[Asker]

Should, not shouldn't

[Smashingdoozy]

Men particularly are always worked about about divorce rates specifically pertaining to women "stealing" money.
This seems to be all you're concerned about. If I'm wrong please enlighten me.

[Asker]

Lol don't project. You're worked up about the idea of not having those things. If they didn't matter to you, then you wouldn't care. Are you capable of love?

[Smashingdoozy]

I'm not interested in getting married so no I'm not projecting.
So go on... Enlighten me...

[Asker]

Figured you weren't capable of love. So that's why you look at marriage as a matter of logistical utility and not a bond between people who love and cherish each other. Let me guess, the only emotions you feel are envy and anger?

[Smashingdoozy]

I love the avoidance

[Asker]

It all makes sense now

[Smashingdoozy]

It made sense from the start

[Asker]

No, it wasn't clear that you were a psychopath until you finished talking. Super clear now though.

[Smashingdoozy]

Well damn if not believing love has to be validated by the government and a piece of paper is psychopathic then call me crazy 🙃

[Asker]

Lmfao don't flip the script. That's the perspective that typically makes girls angry. and definitely not how you feel.

[Smashingdoozy]

Are you incapable of reading?

[Asker]

Are you?

[Smashingdoozy]

Nope. The opinion you hold on me due to my personal preference not to get married is odd. You have still yet to explain how what you are proposing is different to a prenuptial agreement between a couple.

[Smashingdoozy]

Are you just annoyed that you didn't know about prenuptial agreements before you got married? Do you not trust your partner with money? I'm sure there's something you could do to rectify that issue... Therapy perhaps...

[Asker]

If you don't understand how prenups work, you can just Google it. Most people already understand the difference.

Are you threatened by amendments to our system because it takes away your power if you one day find a person willing to marry you?

[Smashingdoozy]

Yet you've again failed to point out the difference. A prenup can include absolutely anything. If I ever do get married I would get a prenup in relation to property and finance. 🙂

[Asker]

It's not my job to explain basic concepts of reality to a liar that's pretending to not know the difference. Or if you sincerely don't know the difference, you're faking being an adult and I'm not in the habit of arguing with little kids.

[Smashingdoozy]

If you want to make an argument or literally any point in favour of something, next time have evidence or at least reasons to back it up!

[Asker]

Common knowledge doesn't need to be relayed. Everyone knows prenups don't cover what I referenced. And it's why I think you're playing dumb and not actually confused. And you're doing it all because you want to sidetrack from the conversation because you got dunked on and caught being the lying psychopath that you are.

[Asker]

A thought just came to me. Maybe you're really pretending to not know because you're trying to make me submit to you. Like a typical power obsession that psychopaths tend to have. It's probably a bit of both actually.

[Smashingdoozy]

Well it definitely covers financial.
What "post-marriage benefits" are you thinking about?

[Asker]

I'm not going to submit to you. You can admit that you were wrong and then I'll pretend you made a mistake and ELI5 it.

[Smashingdoozy]

Okay this is just stupid now 😂 you can't come up with anything

[Asker]

You have zero control over me. You're completely powerless. And you know for a fact you're wrong. Everyone reading this does too.

[Alwayreckles93]

I vote you people STOP ENOUGH WITH THE CHILDFREE WEDDINGS!

[Asker]

That's not really a part of the topic. People can still have kids, but both would have the same legal right to custody (50/50) and neither parent could ever own child support unless they reject their custody.

[Phoenix98]

It’d be different since this system has been in place for thousands of years just in slightly different ways.

[Anonymous]

Oh, you again. Yawn. Come back when you have some new material. No one's ever going to marry you so as usual you are pointlessly concerning yourself with something you'll never need to worry about.

[Asker]

Take 2: I've been married for over a decade, weirdo. If you have to resort to personal insults because you can't answer a basic question, then maybe it's time to get some professional help.