Have we designed our society so that wealthy men are increasingly choosing to not get married because getting married is financially reckless?

[Kelley1]

How Much Will Jeff Bezos’ Divorce Cost? Tens Of Billions!

[DJB72]

The problem with today's society is the same one that caused the fall of Persia, Greece, Rome, the Byzantine, and every major civilisation in history.

It's rulers are corrupt and incompetent and only interested in lining their own pockets. They've brainwashed the population to believe what they have as the ruler's is to be envied and that the plebs should surrender all personal autonomy to the top 1% (±)

Eventually a sane civilisation will rise, led by someone unexpected and the corrupt regime falls, the civilisation collapses and the cycle starts again.

The difference this time is we're a global population of billions, primarily industrial where last time we were millions, primarily agrarian.

The push today is the increase in people looking to start homesteading unused land to get away from being controlled. If you can grow your own food, dig your own well and generate your own electricity the government can't control you as easily. It's the start of the collapse - not Bezos and Musk.

The real rot is the WEF, WHO & FDA telling us what we can eat, what medicines we can have and if we can go outside today.

FUCK THAT.

[Kelley1]

That sounds good, but the problem is that rebellion is no longer possible.

[DJB72]

King John and King Charles I thought that too

[Kelley1]

You mean before instant communication, before the masters knew the activity of every person, and before commoners could make weapons comparable to weapons the military have?

[DJB72]

Centuries before. Read the histories around the signing of Magna Carta by John and the English Civil War and Charles I execution.

Radio in WW2 gave instant communication but it was slower methods that did more damage. Information about the breaking of Enigma was never transmitted by radio because it was more likely to be heard by the enemy.

Commoners in the time of King John could make longbows and arrows exactly as devastating as those of the standing army. Swords too.

The Roundheads were able to build cannons more powerful than the Cavaliers had.

What would win wars today, like then, will be secrecy and not technology. At least one soldier on D-Day stormed the Normandy Landings with a longbow, broadsword and playing the bagpipes. He terrified the Germans.

Crossbow bolts still kill today. So do arrows. And a modern army would be foolish to assume they'd be ineffective. Slow, sharp blades can pierce Kevlar that a bullet can't. And it's simple to get paper notes past someone looking only for electronic communication.

[msc545]

This actually applies to ALL men except the seriously stupid or arrogant or naive ones. Once they get shaken down for everything they have in divorce court, they change their thinking. Marriage is financial suicide for men.

[Kelley1]

Modern marriages in our society are designed to favor women. Men know that. Therefore, at least to an extent, it is not to our advantage either. How does it benefit me when men I want to marry choose to fuck me without marrying me? Even if I'm not willing, plenty of other girls will. I can limit it, but with more women than men in college and a third of the men unacceptable, if a girl will not put out, the guy will find a girl who will.

[msc545]

Well look at it this way you get to fuck them too without marrying them. Why is the marriage such a big big goal for you? Maybe it's because without marriage you can't drag them into court and take everything they own, correct?

[Kelley1]

It is because I want to be a mother in a traditional family, and I don't want to be a single mother. Without a husband, women are lousy parents. I don't know if single fathers would be better parents than single mothers, but I doubt they would be worse.

[msc545]

Nobody wants to marry you without some extremely solid legal protections in place that may or may not work. Can you blame us really you're desired to become a mother is laudable I suppose, but it seems like you're going to have to do it on your on. Go to a sperm Bank and get artificially inseminated. Or adopt a child. Or marry an extremely stupid careless man.

[msc545]

Women do this to themselves with their whining and crying about how we they were being so terribly mistreated. They have verbally and legally abused him to the point that this is the outcome. Take some responsibility for it and do something about fixing it because we can't and won't.

[Kelley1]

Women have not done that, our masters have done it. Just as men are seldom heard because they don't have the microphone, without the microphone, women can do nothing, nor would they be heard. Our masters can always find a few women who will say what they want them to say, give them the microphone, and let the public believe they represent most women. However, that is a false belief. It is a false belief that you hold, and it is a false belief held by a very large majority.

[HighValue]

It does represent most women, that is why 67% of women vote for Democrats that support anti-male policies. That is also why most divorces are initiated by women and over 97% of alimony (stolen money) is given to women. The majority of whave been terrible, immoral, and abusive for generations.

[Kelley1]

@HighValue That is not relevant. Both men and women will accept whatever advantages they are given and will soon believe that is what they deserve. 200 years ago, women would not attempt to divorce because the men owned everything, and the women had no money and would lose their children, and the men believed that is how it should be. How men were 200 years ago is exactly how women are today.

Women did not create women's lib and the current situation because they had neither the means nor the microphone. The Rockefeller Foundation funded Women’s Lib. And they are the ones who got it all over the newspapers and television. And, the reason was: They couldn’t tax half the population before Women’s Lib. And the second reason was: Now they get the kids in school at an early age. They can indoctrinate the kids on how to think, so that it breaks up the family. The kids start looking at the State as the family. The school, as the officials, as their family, not as the parents teaching them.”

[msc545]

what masters?

[Kelley1]

Or masters are Israel, the billionaires and the international bankers who own the Federal Reserve. They own the media. They buy Congress and the president. They own the courts, the FBI, and the CIA. They write and, in effect, enforce the laws.

[srazo]

@Kelley1 what is wrong with Israel Gods chosen people they should be running the world.

[msc545]

I know what the law is, and I know what the court decisions favoring women and trashing men are. Take some responsibility and stop blaming your "masters".

[msc545]

Horseshit. Own what you have done.

[backdoorman]

Men of all social classes are avoiding marriage for a lot of reasons, but divorce and financial ruin are among the biggest. But wealthy men can afford to lose half their wealth and still be in a good place. Not so much for middle and lower class men. They are the men who are avoiding marriage most.

[itsannalee]

Asian don’t do that shit.
Most wealth people married to other wealthy people and make the marriage for business purpose and investment to make their family in power.

[Ariesman81]

The current prenuptial agreement offered by the states is absolute horseshit for traditional men. Brazil offers three marriage regimes that can be agreed upon by the couple. It is a much better system and promotes traditional marriages.

[LiamS95]

Men with that kind of wealth are fools not to have a prenuptial agreement.

[msc545]

A prenuptial agreement is helpful right up to the point that the judge decides that it's unfair that the woman and nullifies the whole thing which he can do easily. This happens a lot. A prenuptial agreement is not protection.

[nawtee_me]

That is what gold diggers do.