Nobody deserves to die. Everybody deserves justice and to have a penalty for something they have done, but I do not believe anyone deserves to die. Saying you hate someone or that you want them to die are strong things to say. If you are saying you want someone to die because they murdered someone, wouldn't you be as bad as them? Because in most cases when someone kills someone else they do it because they want that person dead. That person actually has the willto go through with their thoughts and threats though. I ddon't know, I believe people should be penalized and convicted for their actions, but never to the extent of a death penalty.
@Falling4UTC ISIS kills for fun, psychopaths kill for fun they deserve to be killed the same way they killed someone else. Also just cause someone is famous doesn't mean they are a good person
ISIS does not kill for fun. They kill as a way to overthrow their government to create a new islamic state for muslims. They have a plan to get what they want and they use murder ans a tatic. Now with phsychopaths, If they want someone to live then they won't kill them, unless they are mentally unstable and cannot control it. So, it is obvious that they do want their victims dead. If they are mentally unstable, then it is not theirfault they cannot control their aactions. I know plenty of people with mental disorders who cannot control their actions. My best friend just got a mental illness and she can't walk well now and can't remember passed experiences. Therefore, mentally unstable people should not have a death penalty, just like everyone. Where did I mention that celebrities are all good people? I don't remember saying that.
Falling4utc when you are beheading people and brutally torturing them it is for fun and not just for power you obviously know nothing about psychopaths not all psychopaths have mental disorders or mental illnesses. If I were you I would look into ASPD Anti Social personality disorder also Saddam killed and tortured for fun they would seriously punish people very brutally just for their own amusement Their are videos of Saddam's uncles, cousins, and his own son's torturing innocent people and laughing in the videos. Udday Hussein one of Saddam's son's one of his hobbies was raping and torturing he admitted this himself and he would punish the Iraqi athletes as well for his own amusement.
psy·cho·pathˈsīkəˌpaTH/nouna person suffering from chronic mental disorder with abnormal or violent social behavior. synonyms:madman, madwoman, maniac, lunatic That is the definition I am going by
And you are not an ISIS member are you? If not you can not speak on behalf of them all. Even if it was for as you say "fun" then they want the person dead for the heck of it. They still want that person dead though, that is the point of going out of their way to kill. Because they want the result of their actions to be the death of another human being. I am not here to change your mind, heaven knows your mind is very narrow to change. I am just here to express my opinion, and I still believe that no one deserves to die. And if someone does, no human being has the right to say it. I am not saying the killers can live without punishment, I just say they can be punished and live.
@Falling4UTC go look at the DSM V you clearly don't know that much about mental disorders not every mental disorder has physiological proof that it exists such as Narcissism, or Histrionic personality disorder for instance or multiple personality disorder I dare you to show me proof of any of these mental disorders having and showing physiological proof by that I mean showing a difference in the brain or having some type of chemical imbalance for example bipolar disorder shows a chemical imbalance of the brain where the person's neurotransmitter Serotonin has a chemical imbalance. Narcissism is caused by the culture in certain societies there is no actual physiological proof of its existence. That's how certain treatments such as CBT cognitive behavioral therapy can cure people with "narcissism"
Bud, I'm not here for a debate. I told you once already, if it wasn't a mental disorder (or something that doesn't affect the brain) it is STILL someone wanting someone to die, there for killing them. You want the killers killed, which makes you no better than them. I'm not here for a debate with someone as stubborn as you, sorry.
Alright your clearly too immature and stupid good bye dummy @Falling4UTC I tried reasoning with you but clearly your too stupid I mean you don't want to hear the facts do you really think ISIS would hesitate even one second to kill and torture you? That's what they are all about the made that very clear. You can't fix these people by being nice to them they are too psychologically damaged they have deep rooted issues you can't fix and you can't just let them keep killing keeping them in jail cells cost too much and feeding them as well.
If ISIS was just after power and wanting to take control of the government they would be after the politicians and killing them not raping innocent people and people who aren't even involved with the government.
Hey, you notice all the downvotes on your opinion? That's because a lot of people disagree with you. See the upvotes? Yeah you don't have any.
Let me say this one more time. Someone wants someone dead ( for any reason, they want them dead because it is in, for revenge, etc.) They STILL want someone dead. You want the murderers killed, therefore you are not any better than the murderers. IDC what you have to say and your beliefs, it is in the Charter of rights and freedoms that you cannot force your beliefs or religion on someone who has asked not to hear it. I am asking you, stop trying to debate. I can only debate with people who admit to losing.
@Falling4UTC well that's cause they didn't see my reasoning behind it they just downvoted this statement "most of those people were self absorbed and died from drug overdoes they deserved what they got" And I bet the votes would be a lot different if those people weren't famous. And 7 people does the equal everybody in the whole word there are 7 billion more people out there just cause 7 people downvoted it doesn't mean its wrong. Proves how stupid you are I am not even religious.
LOL you don't know how roasted you have been already 😂😂you got ddown votes because you do not have any right to say someone deserves to die. It does not matter if those people are famous, you still don't have the right to say that. Well let's say this is a survey. 100% of the people who up or down voted for you downvoted. Therefore, it may not be an accurate representation to the population of the world but it sure does say something about how you worded your opinion. I didn't say you're religious, I just stated that the Charter of Rights and Freedoms include religion as well as beliefs. So stop. I am not willing to hear what ignorant people have to say. I at least consider what you have to say. Now I am done. Please stop, I am not willing to listen to your opinion any longer. Please respect my wishes.
@Falling4UTC why should I respect someone who is disrespectful towards me? Your a little kid and your naive downvotes does not mean I am wrong if the majority of ISIS was on this site and I said ISIS are bad people and deserve to die I would get a lot of down votes but that does not mean I am wrong I bet you right now if asked a question on here where I took a poll whether everybody in ISIS deserves to be killed and I said do you agree with me that they should be killed or not that I would mostly get yeses with people agreeing with me.
It is funny how I am the immature and naiive one when you will not even have respect for another person. How am I disrespectful by saying my opinion and then once you start to debate, after explaining multiple times where you are wrong, attempting to stop this? I don't get it. I actually have all of my grades in the high 80s and 90s in the university stream courses. Age does not define experience and intelligence, my friend.
You think whatever you wish to think, but do not force your opinions upon me because you are not going to change my beliefs.
Revenge is not the answer. My parents are from Ireland and their family were bombed by terrorists actually, and killed. No, I do not think they deserve death as a punishment. It wouldn't change the fact that they killed them. If anything, it just makes you as worse as those people. I'd rather show a mature unbiased opinion. I am sorry for your uncle, however my beliefs are my beliefs. You clearly learned those people deserve to die because you have been through something like that. Just attempt to step out of the box and be a bit less unbiased. Will he come back to life if his murderer is killed? Will the murderer feel remorse or learn his lesson? Even if it was to prevent him from murdering others, there are other ways of preventing murderers from killing, they do it all the time.
@Falling4UTC well I am sorry what happened to your parent's family, but yes it will you can't fix these murderers they are too mentally disturbed all the psychological help won't help them putting them behind bars costs too much money the government doesn't have to make executions expensive they could easily fix this problem. Torturing those psychopaths and giving them a taste of their own medicine will help it will show them the error of their ways. People have already tried helping these crazy murderers and it has never worked no its time to try something new.
Many murderers have became better with rehab and therapy. The government has enough money to keep them behind bars right now. Making them feel painn won't make them remorseful. It will make them think "man, I wish I didn't get caught" or they couldn't care at all. For example, the Boston bomber sentenced to death couldn't care less. I believe that there are other options. I do not think a human, who is full of sin, has the right to kill a sinner.
@Falling4UTC if they have truly become better then how come they won't release these murderers from prison? First of all you have ton consider the psychological effect being put behind bars itself has here I agree with yo that jailing someone is a good punishment, buts its not a punishment that will work on everybody and help correct their behavior and what do you want to do release these murderer's after they have done their crime? The prisons have gotten so bad in some places that the jails got too over crowded and they release some of the criminals. The government shouldn't have to keep on using money to build new jails those costs lots of money I can show you the amount of money it actually costs just to keep one prisoner in jail for a day. $234 www.lanecounty.org/.../corfaq17.aspx and our taxes go to the those inmates plus for their food as well and other crap. Why should we have to pay for their stupid behavior and actions?
Well I see your point there. However, the US government does have the money to pay for it. We are taxed on everything here, from our houses to our clothing and even onour water. In Ireland there are no taxes, and if there are it is included with the overall price. They are able to support their prisons. So I believe the government, who gets trillions upoun trillions of dollars on taxing alone can support prisons. I know a school that the government is outing three million dollars into one room alone for. If the plan works out, they want to do that to every school in that area. If they have enough money for high tech equipment we could live without, then they could support our prisons.
They also have removed some murderers from prison after a while.
And see removing murderers from prisons is not a good idea cause its taking a huge risk in taking other people's live's in Ireland it seems like they have a better rule, but here we have to pay for prisons and that's not right I am cool with taxing clothes, foods, and city services, but for these crazy maniacs we shouldn't have to pay money for their stupid actions. @Falling4UTC
Well we are paying money to prevent the criminals from injuring us. It makes sense if you think about it, many of those criminals could be innocent and it would be better if they were in jail then killed for something they didn't do. No one except the government really has the money and responsibility to take care of our prisons.
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What about John Lennon?
What about Jeff Buckley?
Roy Orbison should be on that list.
Indeed he should be. But, I think there's a bit of a racial trend with that list (with one or two exceptions.)
Most of those people were self absorbed and dies from drug overdoes they deserved what they got.
Nobody deserves to die
People in ISIS don't deserve to die? @GreenEyesOpenSoul your not smart are you?
Says the one with poor grammar. *You're
And obviously I meant people who haven't committed horrific crimes. Stop strawmaning.
Some of those celebs did commit horrific crimes @GreenEyesOpenSoul I think raping a child is pretty horrific.
Who raped a child? I am not familiar with all of these artists.
@GreenEyesOpenSoul Michael Jackson
That's a rumor.
Not a fact.
Not a rumor he was trialed for it and charged and put in jail for it the evidence didn't look good towards him.
Nobody deserves to die. Everybody deserves justice and to have a penalty for something they have done, but I do not believe anyone deserves to die. Saying you hate someone or that you want them to die are strong things to say. If you are saying you want someone to die because they murdered someone, wouldn't you be as bad as them? Because in most cases when someone kills someone else they do it because they want that person dead. That person actually has the willto go through with their thoughts and threats though.
I ddon't know, I believe people should be penalized and convicted for their actions, but never to the extent of a death penalty.
@Falling4UTC ISIS kills for fun, psychopaths kill for fun they deserve to be killed the same way they killed someone else. Also just cause someone is famous doesn't mean they are a good person
ISIS does not kill for fun. They kill as a way to overthrow their government to create a new islamic state for muslims. They have a plan to get what they want and they use murder ans a tatic. Now with phsychopaths, If they want someone to live then they won't kill them, unless they are mentally unstable and cannot control it. So, it is obvious that they do want their victims dead. If they are mentally unstable, then it is not theirfault they cannot control their aactions. I know plenty of people with mental disorders who cannot control their actions. My best friend just got a mental illness and she can't walk well now and can't remember passed experiences. Therefore, mentally unstable people should not have a death penalty, just like everyone. Where did I mention that celebrities are all good people? I don't remember saying that.
Falling4utc when you are beheading people and brutally torturing them it is for fun and not just for power you obviously know nothing about psychopaths not all psychopaths have mental disorders or mental illnesses.
If I were you I would look into ASPD Anti Social personality disorder also Saddam killed and tortured for fun they would seriously punish people very brutally just for their own amusement Their are videos of Saddam's uncles, cousins, and his own son's torturing innocent people and laughing in the videos. Udday Hussein one of Saddam's son's one of his hobbies was raping and torturing he admitted this himself and he would punish the Iraqi athletes as well for his own amusement.
@Falling4UTC
psy·cho·pathˈsīkəˌpaTH/nouna
person suffering from chronic mental disorder with abnormal or violent social behavior. synonyms:madman, madwoman, maniac, lunatic
That is the definition I am going by
And you are not an ISIS member are you? If not you can not speak on behalf of them all.
Even if it was for as you say "fun" then they want the person dead for the heck of it. They still want that person dead though, that is the point of going out of their way to kill. Because they want the result of their actions to be the death of another human being.
I am not here to change your mind, heaven knows your mind is very narrow to change. I am just here to express my opinion, and I still believe that no one deserves to die. And if someone does, no human being has the right to say it.
I am not saying the killers can live without punishment, I just say they can be punished and live.
@Falling4UTC go look at the DSM V you clearly don't know that much about mental disorders not every mental disorder has physiological proof that it exists such as Narcissism, or Histrionic personality disorder for instance or multiple personality disorder I dare you to show me proof of any of these mental disorders having and showing physiological proof by that I mean showing a difference in the brain or having some type of chemical imbalance for example bipolar disorder shows a chemical imbalance of the brain where the person's neurotransmitter Serotonin has a chemical imbalance. Narcissism is caused by the culture in certain societies there is no actual physiological proof of its existence. That's how certain treatments such as CBT cognitive behavioral therapy can cure people with "narcissism"
Bud, I'm not here for a debate. I told you once already, if it wasn't a mental disorder (or something that doesn't affect the brain) it is STILL someone wanting someone to die, there for killing them. You want the killers killed, which makes you no better than them. I'm not here for a debate with someone as stubborn as you, sorry.
Alright your clearly too immature and stupid good bye dummy @Falling4UTC I tried reasoning with you but clearly your too stupid I mean you don't want to hear the facts do you really think ISIS would hesitate even one second to kill and torture you? That's what they are all about the made that very clear. You can't fix these people by being nice to them they are too psychologically damaged they have deep rooted issues you can't fix and you can't just let them keep killing keeping them in jail cells cost too much and feeding them as well.
If ISIS was just after power and wanting to take control of the government they would be after the politicians and killing them not raping innocent people and people who aren't even involved with the government.
Hey, you notice all the downvotes on your opinion? That's because a lot of people disagree with you. See the upvotes? Yeah you don't have any.
Let me say this one more time.
Someone wants someone dead ( for any reason, they want them dead because it is in, for revenge, etc.) They STILL want someone dead. You want the murderers killed, therefore you are not any better than the murderers.
IDC what you have to say and your beliefs, it is in the Charter of rights and freedoms that you cannot force your beliefs or religion on someone who has asked not to hear it. I am asking you, stop trying to debate. I can only debate with people who admit to losing.
@Falling4UTC well that's cause they didn't see my reasoning behind it they just downvoted this statement "most of those people were self absorbed and died from drug overdoes they deserved what they got" And I bet the votes would be a lot different if those people weren't famous. And 7 people does the equal everybody in the whole word there are 7 billion more people out there just cause 7 people downvoted it doesn't mean its wrong. Proves how stupid you are I am not even religious.
LOL you don't know how roasted you have been already 😂😂you got ddown votes because you do not have any right to say someone deserves to die. It does not matter if those people are famous, you still don't have the right to say that. Well let's say this is a survey. 100% of the people who up or down voted for you downvoted. Therefore, it may not be an accurate representation to the population of the world but it sure does say something about how you worded your opinion. I didn't say you're religious, I just stated that the Charter of Rights and Freedoms include religion as well as beliefs. So stop. I am not willing to hear what ignorant people have to say. I at least consider what you have to say. Now I am done. Please stop, I am not willing to listen to your opinion any longer. Please respect my wishes.
@Falling4UTC why should I respect someone who is disrespectful towards me? Your a little kid and your naive downvotes does not mean I am wrong if the majority of ISIS was on this site and I said ISIS are bad people and deserve to die I would get a lot of down votes but that does not mean I am wrong I bet you right now if asked a question on here where I took a poll whether everybody in ISIS deserves to be killed and I said do you agree with me that they should be killed or not that I would mostly get yeses with people agreeing with me.
It is funny how I am the immature and naiive one when you will not even have respect for another person. How am I disrespectful by saying my opinion and then once you start to debate, after explaining multiple times where you are wrong, attempting to stop this? I don't get it.
I actually have all of my grades in the high 80s and 90s in the university stream courses. Age does not define experience and intelligence, my friend.
You think whatever you wish to think, but do not force your opinions upon me because you are not going to change my beliefs.
you can have your opinions all you want but I provided facts for you proving that some just like to to kill it gives them joy and you denied that you have not lost a loved one from a psychopath I have okay Saddam killed my uncle they tortured him they have done this too hundreds of thousands of people these sick bastards video tape their beatings and killing how much more proof do you want? en.wikipedia.org/.../Antisocial_personality_disorder
@Falling4UTC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyx45V5k_kI look they enjoy it how much more proof do you need? count your losses and go
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2lHYzH53KM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHvIsv9UWCo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX1oWb1SNbk
Revenge is not the answer. My parents are from Ireland and their family were bombed by terrorists actually, and killed.
No, I do not think they deserve death as a punishment. It wouldn't change the fact that they killed them. If anything, it just makes you as worse as those people. I'd rather show a mature unbiased opinion.
I am sorry for your uncle, however my beliefs are my beliefs. You clearly learned those people deserve to die because you have been through something like that. Just attempt to step out of the box and be a bit less unbiased. Will he come back to life if his murderer is killed? Will the murderer feel remorse or learn his lesson?
Even if it was to prevent him from murdering others, there are other ways of preventing murderers from killing, they do it all the time.
@Falling4UTC well I am sorry what happened to your parent's family, but yes it will you can't fix these murderers they are too mentally disturbed all the psychological help won't help them putting them behind bars costs too much money the government doesn't have to make executions expensive they could easily fix this problem. Torturing those psychopaths and giving them a taste of their own medicine will help it will show them the error of their ways. People have already tried helping these crazy murderers and it has never worked no its time to try something new.
Many murderers have became better with rehab and therapy. The government has enough money to keep them behind bars right now. Making them feel painn won't make them remorseful. It will make them think "man, I wish I didn't get caught" or they couldn't care at all. For example, the Boston bomber sentenced to death couldn't care less. I believe that there are other options. I do not think a human, who is full of sin, has the right to kill a sinner.
@Falling4UTC if they have truly become better then how come they won't release these murderers from prison? First of all you have ton consider the psychological effect being put behind bars itself has here I agree with yo that jailing someone is a good punishment, buts its not a punishment that will work on everybody and help correct their behavior and what do you want to do release these murderer's after they have done their crime? The prisons have gotten so bad in some places that the jails got too over crowded and they release some of the criminals. The government shouldn't have to keep on using money to build new jails those costs lots of money I can show you the amount of money it actually costs just to keep one prisoner in jail for a day. $234
www.lanecounty.org/.../corfaq17.aspx
and our taxes go to the those inmates plus for their food as well and other crap. Why should we have to pay for their stupid behavior and actions?
Well I see your point there. However, the US government does have the money to pay for it. We are taxed on everything here, from our houses to our clothing and even onour water. In Ireland there are no taxes, and if there are it is included with the overall price. They are able to support their prisons. So I believe the government, who gets trillions upoun trillions of dollars on taxing alone can support prisons. I know a school that the government is outing three million dollars into one room alone for. If the plan works out, they want to do that to every school in that area. If they have enough money for high tech equipment we could live without, then they could support our prisons.
They also have removed some murderers from prison after a while.
And see removing murderers from prisons is not a good idea cause its taking a huge risk in taking other people's live's in Ireland it seems like they have a better rule, but here we have to pay for prisons and that's not right I am cool with taxing clothes, foods, and city services, but for these crazy maniacs we shouldn't have to pay money for their stupid actions. @Falling4UTC
Well we are paying money to prevent the criminals from injuring us. It makes sense if you think about it, many of those criminals could be innocent and it would be better if they were in jail then killed for something they didn't do. No one except the government really has the money and responsibility to take care of our prisons.
Yeah so let the government pay for it our taxes that we work for shouldn't @Falling4UTC
The government only gets money from a) taxes and b) companies it supports. I'm betting the majority of the governments income is from taxes.
Lovely take.
I miss mj so much! :(
Honorable mention to Big L! 8-)
Yess! Never thought I'd see his name on here
rituals... basic rituals...
you forgot jim morrison and curt cobain
No I didn't forget. I simply cannot list everyone.
Lets be realistic
why?
Why? Because that's literally hundreds of people.
Maybe I'll make a sequel to this with some popular mentions from this post.
Every time I hear "Valerie" I think of Amy :/
You listed most of the good artists.
excellent shout out on selena
That is unfortunate
It's so sad
Dat Aaliyah tho!