Why do people hate us Turks?

[ConfusedGrocer]

I know we did some nasty things in the past, but c'mon, who didn't? Nobody hates Germans for what they did to Jews. The British invaded like, every single country in the world. That's why I'm writing this in English, but I don't see anyone burning an UK flag. Is it some sort of weird Stockholm Syndrome? If Ottomans forced the Balkans to become Muslim and speak Turkish, would they like us? I don't know if the Armenian genocide happened, but if it did please understand people who did that are all dead. I didn't kill an Armenian, why would I kill Armenians for God's sake? If you don't hate me, I don't hate you. My grandma once said my great-great-grandpa's pregnant first wife was killed by Greeks during the war. Do I hate the Greeks? No. I know they're not like that. I don't really understand how the Balkans can call us Middle Easterns. There are Middle Eastern parts of this contry, that's for sure, but I believe they know us, especially Greeks. They know we're not like that. It's a large country, there's a difference between a man from Hakkari and a man from Izmir. It's a little annoying that all the Balkan people stick together and hating on us. My mother's side were all Turks who lived in Greece (and Constanta, Romania) and and they came here with the population exchange, only my grandpa may not be Turkish, according to my mom and some details on their village life. I love the Balkans but it's sad to see they hate me.

Note: I hope you're all aware that ''Turks carved pregnant women's belly'' ''Turks raped young girls'' ''Turks threw babies in air and didn't catch'' shit is not real. What do you think they're teaching us at school? Yeah, Greek men raping Black Coast and Aegean women. Nobody can prove this stuff unless we get a time machine. Why don't we leave this stuff behind and live in PEACE?

Note2: This has nothing to do with Sexual Behavior. The site automatically uses this tag.

[wölfin-fräulein]

Hating towards all the individuals of a nationality does not mean anything. But disliking a nationality is a part of some nations history. And that is when that certain nationality as a whole has long negative effects on their country and what it was and has become through the history. Greeks may like you as an individual but many of them will not ever like ‘Turkey’. Why? Because asia minor was the land of a people of their, Greek descendant and conquered by turks and then their own country was conflicted and drained out of power and got persecuted by them in 1000 years. 200 years of freedom that half of it passed under a shadow will not make them love you. they will not. Balkan people are most conflicted by your actions against Europe through history. at the same time they may not ‘hate’ every individual in your country. But they may have a general dislike, and some negative thoughts that will not be easily wiped out.

“Why don't we leave this stuff behind and live in PEACE?”
Because it is not as easy as you may think. Your country is in a good economical state, and is still persecuting Kurds. While Balkans was drained out of power by you. the economical state they are now in, the debts, the situations they faced is because of you. if it wasn't for you they would be an empire now. Or at least a powerful country. You made them weak and drowned in debts now shout for peace and love.
Though it can happen through time but not in two days and with changes. Indians would not love British people if they did not give them many advantages and if their economy wasn't in a good shape now you would see Indians cursing the British. though the country of 'Greece' is not in an overall bad economical state in 21 century.

So talking about love easy. But not fairly achievable in real life. You can hope that with more understanding and changes that may happen some views change. But you cannot expect more.

[ConfusedGrocer]

God, why can't I ''shout for peace and love''? I didn't make their countries poor. Maybe my ancestors did, but I didn't. I can shout whatever the hell I want. About Kurds, eh, I don't like them. I don't really know why.

[wölfin-fräulein]

"I can shout whatever the hell I want."

of course. I said you can shout. but you cannot expect anything to happen from it.

I did not say you as an individual did or doing anything. and no people hate one by one of the individuals of another country that they may dislike. but they may dislike the country as a whole. and that impression was made through time.

if by your logic people should only dislike the soldiers who fought in the fields against them. which will not happen. those soldiers fought in the name of a country and fed and armed by the certain country.

in the end I did not say such thing as tolerance cannot exist. I said it may need more time and changes.

[Ivy_Nicole]

Because the crime rates are the highest for Turks and people from Marocco in my country. They don't hate them, only dislike the Turks that randomly harass girls, be disrespectful, or refuse to learn our language and look weird at you when you don't wear a headscarf.

But I think most Turks are misunderstood and they are very friendly mostly. But sometimes they are misunderstood because of cultural differences and we get scared around them as they are easily offended.

But personally I look at the persons themselfves. Not at race or so.

[ConfusedGrocer]

Netherlands? My aunt lives there. She speaks Dutch, so does her son and I don't think they harass anyone. Depends on the person. I love Netherlands, by the way. You're the first country to legalize gay marriage!

[Ivy_Nicole]

Yes the Netherlands. They definitely do, especially in my neighboorhood, my little sisters got bullied by them and they are too scared to return to the playground. Also we cannot pass their hanging out spot, because they say all kinds of stuff. But probably not only Turks.

[Hajar_Whitestone]

It's not about Turk past, every country has something bad in his history but the problem is some Turkish people are so mean, rude and disrespect, that's why I dislike them not all of course but my experience with Turk people show me they can betray you anytime :/

[ConfusedGrocer]

I wouldn't. Don't generalize people.

[Hajar_Whitestone]

I said not all just some :/ @Asker

[ConfusedGrocer]

Sorry, I got it wrong

[Hajar_Whitestone]

@Asker it's Okay ^^

[queen-b]

The hell is this? Whats wrong with u turks, (Im turkish). Why do u want everybody to like u? Who cares!

[ConfusedGrocer]

Of course I want them to like me/us, I like them. I don't like the ones who don't like me. I don't really get that. If your ancestors making a country weak is a reason to hate you, the British must be the most hated people in the world. I don't get how they can get away with that.

[queen-b]

-.- im not gunna argue with u

[marcelo]

Look a lot of Turks hates Kurds. But I love Turks even though I am an ancestrally Iranian Kurd.

Love and hate has brought mankind to where we are now. If there was no hate - Israel wouldn't have existed.

Any way I hate Israelis. Only ever met 1 in my whole life yet I hate them for something they are doing far far away in a distant land to some ppl. The nation gets tainted by the actions of a cruel few. I din't think Jews care I hate them so don't let opinions hurt you.

Just " live long and Prosper." ...

[lonerider]

' i dont know whether the armenian genocide occured' ... ' if the ottomans forced balkans to convert' these are the words why you are hated. If you just accept that all these things occured maybe people will hate turks less. Acting oblivious about horrors is why people hate turks. The germans accept what nazi did. The British accept what the empire and east india company did. The turks don't accept what ottomans did. ( FYI: I neither hate nor love turks. Have nothing to do with turkey. Never met a turk)

[bubble_tea]

well, the japanese don't teach what they did in china.. and they are not hated around the world.

[ConfusedGrocer]

I was just giving an example! Like I said, British did that, but no one is hating on them. About the genocide, to be honest, I don't know what to believe. Don't blame me for that. I'm not acting oblivious. I would be acting oblivious if I DENIED it. If those things happened, I can't do more than apologize.

[ConfusedGrocer]

Are they hated in Asia? That's more imporant.

[ConfusedGrocer]

*important

[lizuka]

I am from Romania, so still sort of Balkans... I don't hate modern day Turks at all, I kinda like Turks, sort of above neutral anyway. But if you're asking us to also like the Ottoman empire that's a big no, we hate the Ottoman empire and consider it uncivilized and backwarded and one of the reasons that made us poor (aside from the Russians). And yea, we do consider you middle easterners, but we consider almost everyone Islamic the same lol, aside from Bosniaks and Albanians.
Anyway it's kind of weird - we don't like the historical Turks at all, but we kind of like the modern Turks (aside from Islam, we don't like Islam).

[HikerDude]

I've had a bad experience with two Turkish students at my college. One tried to use me to get her homework done for her. When the other people in the group told the instructor that she was a non-contributor, she went into a rage. I also had a Turkish guy in my engineering project group and he was just a jerky person who felt like he was better than everyone else. So in my experience, Turks are their own worst enemies when it comes to public perception about them in general.

[ConfusedGrocer]

God, I hate those who make us all look bad! Kezban!

[HikerDude]

It's not that I assume all Turks are bad people, but those are just my personal experiences.

[Anonymous]

My boyfriend is Turkish lol, I think he's gorgeous, bit of a shallow thing to say but a thing none the less. I think people just generalise everything, like people say black people are thugs and drug dealers, Arabs and Pakistanis are terrorists, white people are hooligans. The media always show the bad side to most ethnicities when a lot of the time majority of them are nothing like the stereo type

[Jackblue]

Germany has admitted the crimes of her past. In Turkey if someone tries to discuss the Armenian Genocide they are risking going to jail. That of course is not an excuse to hate all Turks, but it may make a person dislike Turkey as it currently is.

[ConfusedGrocer]

No, they're not risking anything. You don't go to jail if you say ''The Armenian Genocide happened.''. I'm pretty sure of that.

[Kyndra]

I had a history teacher who gave us an assignment on Armenian Genocide, and one of our classmates was Armenian. He gave full mark to everyone who completed it, he only asked us to bring which sources we used and what we made out of it. Some people said it happened, some said it didn't. No one got into trouble for what they thought, and our teacher didn't get into trouble for making us do that research.

[ConfusedGrocer]

So? A teacher in Turkey would get in trouble if he/she gave the students an assignment on gay marriage or something, but not the Armenian genocide. They don't want you to do researchs anyway. School is not about learning, just preparing for exams. It sucks.

[Jackblue]

en.wikipedia.org/.../Article_301_(Turkish_Penal_Code) This is where I get the information.

[ConfusedGrocer]

Wow, you're not insulting Turkey if you say the Armenian genocide happened.

[AJElectric]

I really don't care but i did have two turkish buddies in the Marine Corps if that helps.

[augustus620]

How beautiful we are turks we love new cultures

[Anonymous]

The American government has done a lot more immoral crap than the Turkish Government or their people. The only issue is admitting what they did but the western world will never admit their true motivations for their actions so it doesn't matter. I have nothing against the Turks.

[JustinCaseUDontKnow]

I don't hate no one that's strong word hate is
i like people who are nice to me and has a pleasant
personality i don't judge anyone based on race.

[MoonMice]

There will always be idiots who hate other countries. If I were you, I'd ignore them and focus on the intelligent people. :)

[whoknowss]

sen de burada hakkarilileri aşağılıyosun ona ne diyeceksin?

[whoknowss]

therere is no lovable side of turkish ppl. so go on people ur on right way i am tellin as a turkish

[ConfusedGrocer]

Doğuluların pek Balkanlar tarafıyla alakası yok. Oraların daha az gelişmiş olduğunu kabul edersin herhalde.

[ConfusedGrocer]

Ayrıca Doğululardan nefret ettiğimi söylemedim.

[whoknowss]

tamam o zaman onlara göre de türkiye az gelişmiş cahil batı da öyle doğu da. sen de aynı hayata düştün fiyaskosun

[ConfusedGrocer]

You're Turkish and saying there's no loveable side of Turkish people?

[ConfusedGrocer]

Fiyasko muyum? Algın o kadar düşük ki. İğrençsin.

[Anonymous]

Well, in France, we have an expression who was used before, 'Tête de turc' which actually means 'Turk's face' to designate a scapegoat.

[ConfusedGrocer]

Well, in Turkey, we say ''Olaya Fransız kaldım'' (I'm left French to the subject) if we don't understand something, but people usually have nothing against the French.

[Opinion Owner]

Didn't know, we both have expressions about each other, it's funny :D
But you know here, turks are not hated, people - well I mean the ones who pretend be 100% french - treat them as others.
But sadly there are racists, as everywhere.

[ConfusedGrocer]

You're right

[Anonymous]

Everyone is hated by someone hun. Just be the example.

[Anonymous]

In the netherlands.. Turkish people are so annoying because they are over the top patriotic. Thats the only thing I got against them..

[SourChocolate]

İt's so long I am bored to read. I'm also Turkish

[ConfusedGrocer]

Türk insanı okumuyor...

[SourChocolate]

aynen tek başlıgı okudum :D

[Klaatu51]

personally i don't hate them

[bubble_tea]

I don't have time to hate on anybody..

[Anonymous]

Because you invade other European countries

[ConfusedGrocer]

Yeah, yesterday I watched Erdogan running to Vienna with a sword on his hand.

It's been centuries, dude.

[Opinion Owner]

You come here still and we dont' want you

[Nuns_in_Heat]

I've never even met a Turk...

[bubbletrouble]

I have never heard of Turkish hate