Why is multiculturalism only forced in white countries?

[Anonymous]

Africa for Africans. Asia for Asians. White countries for everybody.

Why?

Many people say that if this continues we'll eventually all be dark-skinned and black haired - white people will be wiped out by race mixing and white people having less white children.

Recently on Twitter a labour MP Jack Straw when asked this question said that "the English as a race aren't worth saving". And yet for asking this question many of you probably see me as a racist, not him.

When animals are endangered people see it as a sad thing and try to preserve the species, yet for a white man to want to do the same is seen as racist by leftists. In fact I've seen leftists celebrate the fact that white people could be wiped out and encourage inter-racial dating.

So, why do you think this only happens in white countries?

[evenlift]

There's a lot wrong with what you say.

That slogan that you've come up with is deceptive. Why don't you say 'Europe', not 'white countries'? You don't say 'Europe', because you include the USA, Canada, Australia and other countries settled by Europeans, who eventually far outnumbered the original non-white populations. So, in fact, it's not only traditionally white countries that have experienced mass migration. There are other examples, such as Russia and China, where native (non-white) populations were displaced by other populations (some white, some non-white).

Multiculturalism, in the true sense, is wrong. Multiculturalism, in the true sense, means treating different cultures as if they were equal, no better or worse. A culture that values individual rights is objectively better than a culture that does not. A secular culture is objectively better than a reliigous culture. A scientific culture is objectively better than a mystical culture. But, when you say 'multiculturalism', you're not talking about culture, but about race. If you actually care about culture, you shouldn't care about race.

If a white woman consents to have children with you, who's stopping you? No one. There's no white country that's forcing people not to have children. Are you saying that people should not only be forced to have children but should be forced to have children with specific people?

If Jack Straw said that about a specific race, rather than all races, then he is racist. But, that doesn't mean that you're not racist.

You assume that environmentalism is correct. It is not. None of those animals has any intrinsic value. But, if you want to protect them peacefully through ownership of them, you should be allowed to do so. It's actually the tragedy of the commons (the fact that no one has any interest in caring for a property as long as it's 'public property', which is to say as long as nobody owns it) that is endangering various species.

[Asker]

You have a point on the non-European places, I think that was wrong of them to push out the natives too.

I suppose you're also right that I'm talking about race - why shouldn't I care about race?

I'm not saying anybody should be forced to do anything, I'm saying the opposite. Like I said, eventually everybody here will be mixed race if things continue the way they are.

I suppose racist depends on what you define as racist. I have no hatred towards any race nor do I think that any race is superior/inferior.

I'm not saying I agree with environmentalism, I'm just saying people seem to care that species are going extinct, yet celebrate white people being bred out of existence.

[evenlift]

If you recognize that it has happened to non-Europeans too and you think that that's wrong, that pretty much defeats the point of your question.

You can care about race if you want, but you should honestly acknowledge that it's separate from culture. The point about putting race above culture is that you would, if necessary, sacrifice culture for the sake of race: for example, you would prefer a white person who identifies with a foreign culture over a black person who identifies with your culture. What's that policy, if not a form of multiculturalism?

If you don't want people to be forced, then what change do you actually want? As I said, there's no white country stopping people from having children.

Racism, in the true sense, means irrational discrimination on the basis of race. It doesn't require hatred or feelings of superiority.

If you disagree with environmentalism, then you should see my point about race.

[Asker]

I guess you have a point there.

There's nobody stopping white people from having children, you're right, but then when more and more people have mixed race children, eventually the white people will be surrounded by mixed race people, then they have no choice. In theory what you're saying about race and culture makes sense, but in reality it doesn't. E. g. sure there are Pakistanis here who aren't Muslims and there are white Muslims, but the large majority of Pakistanis here are Muslim, and the large majority of white people are not.

[evenlift]

But, you don't have a choice over someone else's body. And that's the way it should be. But, it's an unfounded worry anyway on your part, because there's a significant minority of people who don't want to have children with people of other races. And there's no reason to think that that will ever change, unless those people choose not to have children, but, if so, that's their problem.

If you want to disapprove of someone's behaviours or opinions, that's legitimate. It's even legitimate to say that Pakistanis in general have beliefs and behaviours of which you disapprove. But, when a Pakistani comes along who does share your culture, you have to decide which you value more, culture or race.

[Sparks32]

How would you separate race from culture? Even though their are some good Africans there aren't enough of them to stop groups of 10 black thugs beating people to death or burning cities to the ground. if you don't like that culture and you wanted to distance yourself from it then you would have to separate yourself from black people themselves until such time as they were ready to deal with there monsters. White people will always deal with our monsters.

[Sparks32]

evenlift
if racism is irrational discrimination, then rational discrimination isn't racist right? the woke seem to be afraid of debates so they deplatform rational points of view.

[Anonymous]

Firstly there is a difference between multiculturalism and races.

Also most 'white' countries are extremely well developed economically and socially (women's rights aren't really addressed in other countries either) so they make equality a goal. Plus people are more likely to immigrate into them from all over the world so it's more of an issue there.

Finally, there are no such things as white countries. I assume you mean the western world including Australia, New Zealand amd the US (all of which were colonised and the native non white populations 'removed') and Europe (who colonised almost the enitire world).

Besides, inter racial dating is a 2 way street. How many black people have complained on here about a dating preference for whites?

[miramiraonthewall]

I'll side step the actual issue here, as race has little to do with it and economics and opportunity, and position seem to be the keys here. But you've chosen to focus on "race" so I just want to make something clear...

Are you forgetting the role Europeans have played in colonizing the world, actively taking part in actual genocide, drawing national lines for other countries that would create many issues between groups within those countries in the future, and taking resources when and where it has been profitable to them? Are there not "territories" in very non-white parts of the world that belong to white nations today? Lets not pretend whites are under attack as they have been sitting quietly in their corner of the world, disturbing no one else. Educate yourself, please.

And I'll assume you're definitely not talking about countries like mine, America, partly built on the backs of non-whites, borne out of genocide and displacement of native americans and brutal slavery, with historical declarations of "manifest destiny" that assume our actual "right" to dominate parts of the world, mainly largely non-white parts of the world? Because otherwise, the very crippled leg you had to stand on the first place is completely destroyed.

[Suspected]

Amen.

[Sparks32]

Whites Colonized but when everyone else does it it's Called cultural enrichment or diversifying. as for genocide whites seem to be the only one not committing it these days but present day savagery doesn't matter because white people did it 200 years ago or so we are told. Most of those POCs draw first blood anyway and they brought spears to a gun fight. scalping was a thing you know.

[KaySee]

There is racism everywhere. Asia is not for Asians and africa is not for Africans. Just like Canada is not for Canadians and america is not for americans. This does make you racist whether or not you intend to be. Just because somewhere is not westernized like our society doesn't mean they dont face similar struggles like oppression, racism and sexism. those people you were referring to, like the mp, that would also be a racists person. Also the extinction of a race and a breed is different because races are irrelevant, all it is is skin colour. However losing an entire species has significant impacts on our food change and ecosystem. If we lost the entire human race, then we should be concerned. (Also white people aren't dying off, they are just combining their race with others to create a mixed and diverse population)

[KaySee]

Food chain*

[Asker]

I'm not sure what you mean by other countries being Westernised, I never said that they should be.

As for race, it isn't irrelevant. Many people say that we all originated in Africa, but that has been disproven. The earliest Europeans come from Scandinavia. 37,000 year old European DNA has been found to be identical to modern European DNA. A simpler way to see the difference is to look at the obvious differences in skull shapes of Africans vs Europeans vs Asians. It's like saying that a tiger is the same as a lion and that species is irrelevant.

[KaySee]

Actually i specifically said that species are very important. What im saying is if the tiger is orange with black stripes or black with orange stripes is irrelevant. and having different shaped skulls brings relevance how? Because my skull is not shaped the same as someone of european descent then i am somehow less of a person?

[Asker]

Like I said, it's like comparing tigers with tigers, not two different coloured tigers.

Where did I say that being a different race makes anybody less of a person? Don't put words in my mouth.

[KaySee]

It was a question, which inherently is doing the opposite of putting words in your mouth but what im trying to do is figure out your point. So what Africans and europeans have different skulls? Ps you compared lions to tigers, not tigers to tigers.

[Asker]

Fair enough.

My point is that race is relevant, we aren't exactly the same. We evolved in different parts of the world. Another example of difference is in sport - the best sprinters tend to be black, and the best swimmers tend to be white, because of genetics. Of course there will be white sprinters and black swimmers but I'm talking in general.

Sorry that was a typo. What I meant by the lion vs tiger comparison was that they're both big cats, but different species. If you look at their bone structure they're different. It isn't just the skin. You then compared tigers with different coloured fur, which isn't the same as comparing a tiger with a lion.

[KaySee]

Yeah i see what you're saying. I guess i just see it as though every country should be equally accepting of all races. I understand what you mean though now (i reread your question) i dont know why there is some global expectation for western cultures to be more accepting than others. (We tend to be and should be proud of that) but i see that it puts us in a bad position. So i guess this only happens in "white" countries because there is just a social expectation that we are supposed to be more adaptable and accepting and when we dont live up to those standards it reflects poorly on our nation even though Asian and African countries could express the same racism and not be scrutinized to the same degree. I guess thats racism at its finest against the "whites"

[Anonymous]

Because things like KKK and neo nazi groups don't really exist in those places. White dudes don't go to Africa, Asia or the Caribbean and get chased down, beat up, verbally abused, even killed because they're white, but racial crimes happen a lot here.
They make new laws when things become a problem, racial attacks were a major problem. Isn't as bad now, but definitely still happens.
Racism is such a problem in "white countries" that we're told we must teach kids in school about racism, why it's wrong and why humans all deserve the same treatment and rights.

[Asker]

What you're saying is that because you (falsely) believe that racist groups only exist in white countries, the solution is to fill those countries with more and more non-white people. That makes no sense. The reason you believe that by the way is that black on white violence doesn't make the national news as often as white on black violence, and it doesn't create the same outrage because of politically correct brainwashing.

This post isn't about racism, it's about forced multiculturalism and genocide.

[Opinion Owner]

People are racist because they're ignorant of other races and cultures. If they can't use Google and become less ignorant and actually learn that people are just people, then the only way to show them is by living side by side.
I'm sure most racists aren't complaining when a black cop is protecting them, or Asian firefighter saving their homes, or fresh from Africa saving their lives in hospital.

[Anonymous]

They're "watering down" their lineage so to speak too. I'd assume most people would all be some vaguely brown shade and few very dark or very light.

Assimilation is just a fact of human existence. You don't see groups of Picts or Huns roaming around, right? Race is not exactly real, it's more of a social phenomenon with a few physical characteristics. Not the same as differing animal species.

[Sparks32]

Well for all the people that go on with original indigenous people in white majority countries lets just get this straight the indigenous have their own spaces set aside for them but most choose to live with the white man so he can provide them with a living standard that is 2nd to none, that's why everyone want to live with white people. Creating white spaces is White Nationalism which is the only evil type of Nationalism for reasons that no one can explain. Only non white Nationalism Is acceptable these days. In short though everyone needs white people but whites not only are not reliant on others but are burdened by multiculturalism therefore multiculturalism needs to be forced on us because we are the only ones that won't benefit from it. Also In Australia MPs earn about $300 thousand a year which they use to invest in property, Flooding Australia with immigrants had created a housing shortage which has not only hyper inflated their investment capital but has locked everyone out of the real estate market forcing us to rent from them a top dollar. This is just one way they have have sold us all out, POC often rape, murder and commit other terrible crimes but are never reported by the mainstream media but that's another story really.

[Tractorbeam]

This seems to be happening more in places like the UK and Australia.
It's as if the powers that be are doing everything they can to destroy the original culture that made these countries great.
If immigration was better organised and done at a slower rate, newcomers would have a better chance to assimilate and adopt the culture of their new country. If they didn't like that culture and want to accept it, they shouldn't go there in the first place.

As it is, many immigrants will end up living in the same area, and the original people will begin to feel like outcasts in their own country. When the immigrants outnumber the original culture in these areas, there is very little assimilation, and problems begin.

The government can't see that, or doesn't want to. You shouldn't have to learn a foreign language to converse with most people in your own town. No-one should ever feel like an alien in his/her own country, but it's going that way.

[Asker]

Yeah, in some places around here I feel like I'm in a foreign country. In fact there are manly places full of Muslims that are called "no-go areas" where the police won't enforce the law, because the Muslims prefer to live under their own Sharia law. And to the leftists this is seen as progress, why? There are many British schools now where no child speaks a word of English , and plenty more where it's their second language, not their first. Many food places around here sell Halal meat and Subway has stopped selling ham because it offends Muslims.

An elderly man who fought the second world war recently got mugged by a couple of Asians on his way to his local church on remembrance day, they stole his medals and his beret. In many places people were told they weren't allowed to sell poppies to remember the brave men who fought in WW1/2 to protect this country - why did they bother when it has now come to this?

[bubble_tea]

Australia didn't originally belong to white people anyway, but the aborigines.. just saying.

[Tractorbeam]

@BubbleTea, Australia never belonged to aboriginal people.
They just came here for a fishing trip that lasted 50,000 years. They didn't put 2 sticks together during that time, or do anything to develop the land and make it theirs.

I can say that, because I'm part aboriginal.

In recent times in this country, there were government schools where maths was only taught in Turkish. So much for assimilation.

[Harrison4073]

Capitalism relies on cheap labour. In order to maintain lower levels of wages immigrants are allowed to work in respective countries and often do so for less money and give them a better quality of life.
There's nothing stopping you from emigrating to Ethiopia but do you think your life will be better off there?
There's not some anti-white conspiracy going on here. Skin colour is irrelevant to profit.

Note: I'm not slagging off non-white nations that are poorer. They are in that position because of the effects of imperialism and slavery.

[Insignis]

Multiculturalism was designed to destroy countries from within. This strategy has been used since ancient Rome to discredit that land's beliefs and values. It works almost every time. Even the Bible shows this at the Tower of Babel; God changed everyone's language to prevent the people from working together. Divide and then conquer.

Other countries, like Russia, still stand strong though!

[rjroy3]

Forced isn't really the world. There's mixing anywhere you go. You can eat at McDonald's in every country in the world. Even India, they substitute chicken for the beef patties.
Anyways, there's a greater degree of multiculturalism in countries that have more freedom. Brazil is actually really multi cultural and they are far from white. They're a melting pot

[Anonymous]

I don't remember the whites staying in Europe too... Ever.
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[Suspected]

Listen man, it's called evolution. Eventually, we'll all be mixed and there's nothing anyone of us can do about it.

White countries, as you express it, have had help building up their own countries through colonization, import of working labour from other countries and so on. I would also say that it's not only white countries that have been tremendously mixed, look at Latin America for example.

Also, democracy-freedom-civil liberties-education-work-better ways of living--> The West.

[Asker]

Freedom? Winston Churchill once said that the fascists of the future would call themselves anti-fascists, and that prediction seems to have come true from in my opinion. It seems that more and more of our freedom is being taken away, not given. The way we're living doesn't seem to be a better way at all. As for this being evolution, no it isn't. We could do something about it if it wasn't forced on us, more and more British people are starting to realise that immigration has happened too much too fast.

[Tractorbeam]

I agree with @Asker on this.
If something like WW2 ever happened again, the population would never have such allegiance to the cause as they did in '39-'45.
Many would have no allegiance, and some would even be against the country they live in. This makes a country weak, when it's people and culture have been diluted.

You can only bring so many traitors into a country, before you have problems.

[Suspected]

Are you guys kidding me?

Asker, do what about what exactly? Is it immigration you're talking about or the race mixing that is bothering you? Even though those two correlate, still two different aims.

As for @Tractorbeam
First of all - people are educated nowadays, even though there are some doubts (you for example), which suggests that those kind of atrocities probably wouldn't happen in today's Europe due to the fact that we still look for scapegoats for our problems, but then we get a better understanding, access information about our structural system, institutions and our fellow neighbors from other countries.
Second of all - allegiance to what? Fighting for your country? Of course people would still fight for their own country, only difference is that it's not a homogeneous people fighting for their country, it's people who are born ethnically different but identifies themselves with the country they've been born and raised in (I'm an example of that).

[Asker]

How are they two different aims? Even so, they lead to the same outcome I described.

As for war, the way I see it WW1 and 2 were fought for nothing. They were fought to prevent invasion, to protect the English people. Yet now we're being flooded with mass immigration so much so that the culture is being destroyed. White British people area minority in our own capital. And like I said, MPs can say that white English people being bred out of existence is perfectly fine and nobody will bat an eyelid.

[Suspected]

For nothing? Okay man, whatever floats your boat.

[Tractorbeam]

@Suspected , I put it to you that a very lot of recent immigrants would not fight for their new country and support it or even give it the steam off their shit.
These would be the same people who were cheering in the streets in major cities in this country after the 9/11 incident. It would also be their friends and families. Like I said, you can only bring so many traitors into a country.

[Suspected]

@Tractorbeam
Traitors? Are they traitors for wanting a better life, is that what you mean? What would you we rather do? Ship new immigrants home to their deaths? What about second generation immigrants? Send them home too? Please, tell me what your solution is for these so called traitors, interracial couples, mixed people, etc.

[Tractorbeam]

@Suspected, if they are Muslim, I would ship them back home to their death. Let their Muslim mates take them and offer a better life. That's a far better alternative than allowing them in to undermine and destroy the existing culture. If they are opposed to everything about western life (except the money) they don't deserve to be here. If they cheer in the streets when allies of this country are under terrorist attack, they deserve to be shot on sight. These are enemies of the country that welcomes them.

The majority of Muslims are opposed to western culture, and see its downfall as their success.
Just look at your own country (Sweden) where 7 % of the population are Muslim and they account for 75% of rape cases against western women. Why? Because they are opposed to western culture and rape is a form of terrorism.

[Suspected]

First, we weren't really having a discussion about religion, second, Islam isn't bound to a certain ethnic background, third, opposed to western culture? We have no problem with Muslims in Sweden, it's a country where we embrace all cultures and ethnic backgrounds without hesitation, and they tend to follow. The only thing I can see eye to eye with some racist idiots, is when you move to a specific country, you follow the rules and follow the restrictions as well but you most certainly are allowed to practice whatever religion you want without anybody harassing you for it. I have yet to see a Muslim act differently compared to anyone else. I'm Christian, can't say the KKK gives me a good reputation, can I? So please, stop with your assumptions. Stereotyping is not healthy.

[Anonymous]

Our country is seriously messed up. i have told my kids that they shouldn't feel obligated to stay here. They have skill sets where they can move. its getting worse.

[gotc147]

Because to the left, only whites can be racist.

[kangy]

in asia, we have it too so it is not only in western countries
whoever disapprove of interracial relationship is close minded

[Anonymous]

Lol because they are rich countries.

Saudi Arabia and United Arab Emirates have million of immigrants because they are rich countries.

Nobody cares your race. People just want more money.

[Anonymous]

I don't know why you would think you are racist 99.9% of the people on GaG and the white countries believe that blacks are the only race that's racist and whites are associated with good 100% of the time.

[Tripzz]

What? This isn't correct at all

[Anonymous]

Because white people are white fuckin' racists