What do you think of this suicide out of spite method: goading someone into calling the police by threatening suicide?

[Anonymous]

And when they get there pull out an airsoft gun on them and commit suicide by cop?

Good idea

Bad idea

[OlderAndWiser]

1. Suicide is sometimes done because of depression and despair; sometimes, suicide is done out of anger. I have sympathies for those who despair. I have a very strong animosity towards those who suicide out of anger.

2. You are going to suicide by cop and then gloat about how you made the other person feel? No, you won't be gloating because you'll be dead. The other person won't be feeling guilty; they'll be feeling extremely angry at you.

3. Why drag a policeman (or a truck driver, or the engineer driving the train) into your situation. Do you know how it messes up those people when something like this happens?

Grow up and deal with life!

[Rocket_Queen]

Selfish and cowardly idea. If you want to take your own life that is one thing but pull the trigger. Don't ruin someone elses life because you were selfish and make them live with the blame.

[Asker]

My parents sent me to the psych ward against my will because they thought I was suicidal. But now I am having suicidal feelings and if I chose to die (not saying that I will) that's how I want to go.

[Rocket_Queen]

I'm gonna be honest here, that's so incredibly selfish of you. Coming from a family of public safety, you have no idea how bad calls like that stick with them. They can't sleep, the dream about them, they get PTSD from them. So not only are you taking your life, but your potentially ruining theirs, and now only theirs, because they usually have husbands/wives, children who now have to watch and suffer with their partner/parent. Your choosing to start a domino process of suffering in a strangers life. That's selfish. All of that being said, life has terrible ups and downs and I'm not sure what your going through, I won't pretend I know. But life is just that: ups and downs. Get help man, whatever it is.

[Asker]

"They can't sleep, the dream about them, they get PTSD from them. So not only are you taking your life, but your potentially ruining theirs, and now only theirs, because they usually have husbands/wives, children who now have to watch and suffer with their partner/parent. " yeah that's kinda the point of suicide out of spite. And maybe it will deter other parents from calling the police if they fear their son/daughter is at risk of suicide.

[Rocket_Queen]

No... the point of suicide is take your own life. You can't face another second so you take your life. The pain is too much so you take your life. I've been there with the same thoughts, wanting to take my life because it hurt too much. But never would I ruin another persons/childs. I'm many things but selfish I try not to he. And as a mother, I can assure you I would do everything in my power to stop my chid from harming themselves just as your parents did. It's my job, to protect them. As I said man, figure out what you need amd get it.

[Asker]

Before my mother sent me I told her that I would never forgive her if she sent me to the hospital and she did it anyway. And sending me to the hospital only made me more depressed than I was before. Are you seriously insisting that she was trying to protect me?

[Rocket_Queen]

If you were trying to harm yourself then yes. If she thought you were trying to harm yourelf then yes. You're looking at it from your side which is an angry side, and maybe you're right. But what were her intentions? Where was her heart at when she made the decision that she made?

[Asker]

I was dealing with self harm issues at the time but I wasn't at any risk of suicide. But in my mentally compromised state the shock of having all of my freedoms stripped away only made things 10 times worse and I was plagued with suicidal thoughts all the following year and refused to talk to anyone about it for fear of getting sent back. The "cure" was worse than the illness and I hope my parents are proud of themselves. You see people talk about doing everything in their power and using the most potent form of treatment to combat a problem as a means to say that I did everything that I could even if things don't work out. But medicine doesn't work that way and the most potent treatments are often the ones the most devastating side effects.

[Asker]

If your child was suffering from even a potentially life threatening infection, you wouldn't automatically reach for the most potent antibiotic available because those are also the ones with the most devastating side effects and in their compromised state the side effects could end up killing them instead of the disease. I actually only recently talked to my psychiatrist and he said that PTSD from hospitalizations like that are not uncommon and in my case it probably caused long term psychological damage that after 8+ years of remaining (mostly) dormant is suddenly coming back. Only recently did I open up to my parents about this. Like I said, I hope they're f%$&ing happy about what they did.

[Rocket_Queen]

Self harm issues. So she knew you were harming yourself and what were you looking for her to do? I'm not trying to be rude, but real. How could she know that you weren't trying to kill yourself? Because you verbally told her so while your actions were telling her other things? Again this isn't a black and white situation. Where was her heart at and what were her intentions? No one is right or wrong here, just misunderstood in a situation that we aren't taught to understand or how to deal with. Setting your anger/hurt/whatever aside and think: do you honestly think her intentions were to hurt you? And I agree that sometimes hospitalization is more harmful than helpful. Everyone is different and needs different things. But you can't change what happened. All you can do now is decide what it is that you need to help you and go get it. I seriously doubt she is happy. But she was doing what she thought was best at the time & unfortunately sometimes in those quick decisions we are wrong.

[Asker]

"what were you looking for her to do? I'm not trying to be rude, but real. How could she know that you weren't trying to kill yourself?" She should have known I wasn't because the injuries weren't near any places that would have put my life in danger, nor were they anywhere near serious enough. There are plenty of other less extreme approaches than having me locked up like a rabbid dog. This indeed wasn't a black and white situation and that's exactly the problem; she viewed it that way and just used the most extreme measure available. But as for doing what was best, well we were having many fights back then as well and the psychiatrist that I'm seeing (who was familiar with the case) said even with the info that my parents had at the time hospitalization certainly wasn't the appropriate course of action to take and there's even evidence that they were using it a means of coercion. But it doesn't matter because good intentions without good actions are meaningless.

[Asker]

And I just have so much trouble buying the notion that you could send someone to be locked up where they would be treated like a common criminal because you care about them. And honestly I now have trouble buying the notion that so many people claim about "motherly love". (i. e. it's like a love and passion that they never felt before and that no one can understand unless they've experienced it; you know that whole line).

[Rocket_Queen]

Well man, sounds like you've got it all figured out then. Good luck.

[Asker]

Good luck on what?

[Rocket_Queen]

Life and getting help

[Asker]

The help I'm getting isn't helping and I'm only getting worse. The memory of how helpless I felt that night when I refused to go and they called the police to take me away keeps haunting me no matter how hard I try to get it out; just waiting for the police to arrive to take me away. I begged and pleaded with them not to do it. The reason that I've contemplated doing what I asked about was so right after they call the police I could show them the airsoft gun and they can no how it feels helplessly waiting for the police to arrive, knowing what's going to happen when they get there. then maybe they can know how I felt :'(

[Rocket_Queen]

Well great. As long as your feelings are taken care of right? As long as you get even with your mom right? No concern for the person who is going to have to carry the burden of taking your life and how that will destroy them and their family. Just make sure you get even with mom. I'm done here. I don't do selfish people.

[Rocket_Queen]

And here's my last thought seriously. You're 25 to 29? Leave. Leave your mother their to live with her guilt and move on with your life. It's a big world. Find your happy place.

[Asker]

"No concern for the person who is going to have to carry the burden of taking your life and how that will destroy them and their family." They new that would happen sooner or later.
"And here's my last thought seriously. You're 25 to 29? Leave. Leave your mother their to live with her guilt and move on with your life. It's a big world. Find your happy place." What guilt? she never said she regretted doing what she did and believe me I tried moving on soooooooooooooo hard. I worked so hard in college to get into a good PhD program but now that I did get into one after three years of trying, these feelings are stronger than ever.

[anonymous83]

Cruel and cowardly manipulation. My mom did that to my sister before. Not cool.

[Anonymous]

That's the cowards way.