Do you think suicide is cowardly?

[Anonymous]

[LaFerrari]

When you see 200+ people jumping from a burning building with no exit and nearly 1,300ft up in the air suffocating or burning alive. I don't see that as cowardly, I see that as the only other quicker and most likely painless death of an option. So it depends on the circumstances.

People in war for instance, they go and save there buddies by either what @exitseven said or something else that put their mates in less danger. A lot of brave men and women have taken that route, to save others.

When people commit murder suicide and or take innocent lives with them, its cowardly.

People that purposely drive in wrong way traffic with the intent of ending their lives and end other lives is cowardly, a YouTuber did that a few years ago, and he was a coward for it.

so in my opinion it all depends on the situation, yes they leave their lives, they leave their families, it is selfish, but you don't know what they are going through, The amount of suffering or pain they go through. Sometimes they can't resolve that pain in therapy or other means, so they end it.

[LaFerrari]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOGiP-HOVaQ

[MCheetah]

No, and I hate it when people falsely attribute cowardice to something just because they don't like it. They did that with 9/11. I have no love for terrorists but a suicide bombing is anything but "cowardly."

I was nearly suicidal in my early 20s. I remember I had a suicide hotline called on me and a yellow mental health ambulance come pick me up outside my mother's house after a huge fight (I came from an abusive household). I don't remember any attempts, but I assure you suicide is not "cowardly," even if you don't like it. It's a sign that someone has nothing to live for and that society is failing people.

[stupidgirlllll123]

No, some people do it because they want to be better, they wish to be a better person, and they know they can't, so it may sound like the only option they have. Some people go through or have gone through so much that they can't take it anymore, and they just want to die. Some people may do it for attention, because they either feel like people don't care about them or they actually don't, so they either want to die because of that, or they wonder if anyone will care for them when they're dead. Suicide may seem cowardly to some people, but the people that consider it or try to do it are hurting in a way that they can't talk about. I wanted to kill myself when I was 10 years old, people were mean to me, I was in a lower math class, and I recently moved to a new place so I was really upset. It gradually got worse when I got older and I self-harmed when I was 13, and I still consider or want to self-harm again, and I basically wish I was dead every day because I'm tired and school is getting too hard, and everything I do in school isn't good enough.

[pillingsadness]

I believe that if a person is in the headspace where they go through with it, they were 100% certain there was no other option. We all know the finality of death, and I reckon it would take a lot of courage to actually top yourself. So, while some people say it's the easy way out, I think it's actually the only way out for those who are suffering the crippling depression that they are experiencing. In my opinion it's not cowardly, nor is it selfish. For people who commit suicide, they're in a mental state where it's the only unlocked door in a room full of loneliness, darkness, and fear.

[ChrisMaster69]

No it’s not.

imagine a guy in complete pain, literally screaming due to tumours on his nerve endings.

being told there is no cure, knowing he faces a life of opiates until he eventually dies.

then deciding to end it.

A different person, haunted by years of abuse and rapes by a family member, knowing that it will always haunt them.

then deciding to end it.

both will find it emotionally hard to do, possibly physically as well, they will have thought about it over a number of months and years, putting up with their individual pains, until it becomes to much.

no not at all.

context is often key.

a person with a known illness which will see their life disappear and their partner have to care for them 24/7 for another 30 years, it’s a hard choice to make.

[EnglishEuropean]

Sometimes opiates are all we have.

[LaFerrari]

So what's your thought on this? www.thedrive.com/.../youtuber-dies-and-kills-three-after-driving-mclaren-on-wrong-side-of-the-highway

I see that as cowardly...

[ChrisMaster69]

@LaFerrari it was suicide where?

[LaFerrari]

He killed himself because he lost $400,000 worth of gaming items in a video game that he played. His parents told police that he was acting crazy for 5 days before it happened. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOGiP-HOVaQ

[ChrisMaster69]

@LaFerrari was it declared suicide or death by reckless driving?

[LaFerrari]

He intentionally drove into wrong lane of traffic at 130+mph and aimed for a van, you tell me? Doesn't matter what they listed it as, he's a coward, he was not impaired, he had no drugs or alcohol in his system, he knowingly put peoples lives in danger.

[ChrisMaster69]

@LaFerrari I am not a judge or coroner, yes you get people doing shit like that, the impact of a lot of suicides have on others is not always well thought through.

It’s the same as stepping in front of a lorry, train etc, the impact on the driver.

Overall though I do not consider it to be cowardly,

[LaFerrari]

So do you think he's not a coward for willingly and knowingly killing two innocent people and injuring 8 people?

[ChrisMaster69]

@LaFerrari Did he knowingly kill them?

This is why coroners etc look in to these things?

Do I, yes in this case.

Do I overall with suicides No.

[LaFerrari]

But you agree that murder suicides are cowardly?

[ChrisMaster69]

@LaFerrari context

I find out that someone has been raping kids in the area,

I go out and find the person, brutally kill them,

I can’t face jail or being caught etc, I shoot myself.

Is that cowardly?

[LaFerrari]

Yes and no, you still would have ended someone else’s life, which is still murder in the eyes of the law. Happens all of the time in prison.

[ChrisMaster69]

@LaFerrari hence it’s not black and white, context is key and I read what you put as your opinion.
yes I agree with it.
I’ve driven outside the wire in places such as Basra, Afghan etc and for some, you do have a thing of not wanting to get caught and would likely top yourself.

Context for all suicides is key. Hence coroner’s investigations etc.

Deciding these things on the internet is pointless, as is saying ALL or none etc, as there will always be examples that break the ALL rule etc.

[LaFerrari]

Well job place suicides like in intelligence Mossad/CIA or SAC is more so a way out from being tortured to death, which is what it is.

You’re right about context in some ways.

[LaFerrari]

Were you military?

[ChrisMaster69]

@LaFerrari yeah I was / am reservist

[LaFerrari]

Oooh That’s cool 😎 British right?

[ChrisMaster69]

@LaFerrari yep

[Agape93]

No. You're choosing to give up everything to end suffering. Your future, you friends, your family, your pets, your work, your education, your past good memories etc.

Thats not minor, that takes a lot of courage to do something so final and complete

[JBlade]

Nope, given a life you never wanted but are forced deal with sucks. Look at the multitude of ways people and animals suffer. People don't like to admit how crappy the nature of life and survival truly is but instead glorify it as an amazing gift. If someone wishes not be apart of it anymore, that's their right and I won't stop them or force them to live.

[Static_In_The_Attic]

Cowardly it is not & it’s not the answer as well. In life some people have a lot on their plate & in life some people have a buffet. As for the world it needs us & each as well as everyone of us are special & sometimes we forget that.

Never give up, never give in & most of all keep moving forward no matter what.

[Screenwriter]

Suicide is chosen because someone is in extreme existential pain and does not have the skills to seek help. I don't know if it's cowardly. It might be more ignorant.

There might be cases where it is appropriate in end of life situations. But if someone is otherwise healthy, not 95, and all they need is some antidepressants and therapy, it is certainly a waste.

[FriendlyGhost]

It’s not cowardly. It’s shortsighted. There are obviously exceptions such as choosing to end your life early in order to avoid a painful death from incurable cancer, but in general people who are feeling like there is no hope are mistaken. people don’t seriously consider suicide unless hope seems impossible, but in very few circumstances is this actually the case. If you think there is no hope, don’t kill yourself, go to a professional who can help you find that hope.

[qwert1234]

I don't think so. But I think it's selfish, but I'm pretty sure people attempting to commit suicide or has committed suicide is not thinking about how selfish their actions are since they have a lot on their minds.

To anyone thinking of doing this, please call your local suicide help hotline.

[Asker]

I believe a lot of people who think about killing themself really do think other people would be better off without them. Suicidal people usually view themself as worthless

[mattissebfan5]

No I'm someone who sufferers with mental illness and on the bad days I don't want to live unless you have mental illness you have no idea what it's like so no one should judge if someone does most people who commit suicide don't want to die but can't live anymore

[Dchrls78104]

No, I do not. People have problems and in this cruel world hardly anyone bothers to care or notice much less help. If you don't care about me when I'm alive and depressed, you have no right to judge me or call me a coward after I've made sure that I'm dead.

[clampfan101]

Cowardly and stupid. (I know people are out of their mind when suicidal, but it’s still stupid.)

People everywhere, you were given a life for a reason and should not waste it. You only get one, and so long as you’re breathing you can make it better.

[AdmiralSirJohn]

Honestly, no. In so many cultures, both modern and historic, it was not seen as an escape but as a way to preserve one's honor and integrity. If one truly believes their life would be worse if it goes on, see it as an act of honor, not cowardice.

(And before you criticize, I've been there. It was only my incompetence that prevented me from going through with it.)

[vald9inches]

Depends on the situation but for the most part no it isn't. If a person with terminal cancer or some kind of horrific accident doesn't want to live anymore with all the pain then it would be selfish of his friends and family to keep them alive. There are so many such physical pain and spiritual pain that exists like that

[DonkeyDan]

No I don't think it's cowardly, I think it takes a lot of courage to be able to go through with it. I didn't have the guts to do it when I wanted to.

[InferiorElegy]

I don't, I've attempted multiple times and honestly I don't encourage suicide but I know even I will probably attempt again. I think it's more selfish to want to force someone to live through unending pain caused by others because you have a moral belief that it's wrong, if you are forcing someone to live then help carry some of the burdens but in my experience no one does but they expect you to continue with your pain.

[Daniela1982]

Absolutely not, unless it is someone who killed someone in order to give him the courage to commit suicide. But besides for that, no.

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[NamerOfStars]

No. Just sad. Usually coming as a result of a skewed perspective- suicidal people often feel themselves to be worthless and a burden on others, which puts paid to the nonsense of those who call it "selfish"- but always sad.

[Aurora1010]

No, I don't... But it's selfish because many times they leave behind people who love them, anyways it's a sad thing.

[dustybiker]

If anyone thinks it’s cowardly, they haven’t tried it. The amount of strength it takes. The depths of despair one reaches.. Not something to be talked of lightly. I hope you are ok?

[exitseven]

It depends on circumstances. If you commit suicide because you cannot imagine yourself being happy it is cowardly. If you dive on a live grenade to save 5 of your buddies then it is not.

[NicoletteXO]

No. In fact, it might even be brave. It's a way to make unbearable pain stop when a person can see no other way.