Is telling someone to commit suicide a crime?

[OddBeMe]

She’s in jail for it now. Hulu docuseries if anyone cares. I don’t really.

Another similar case in another state, but SCOTUS overruled. Not sure what’s different yet. I haven’t delved into it. I would assume the above btch would appeal if it was fed scotus.

And finally…Emperor Hirohito told his followers, who thought he was a god, to not let yourself, civilian or soldier, be taken prisoner by the enemy. Thus infamously the Saipan cliffs has a memorial of where 2000 civilians jumped after American Marines conquered in ‘44. Not before slitting their babies throats though.

We let him off in hopes he could transition Japan to its more secular and progressive self it is today Now they just want American girls panties mailed to them.

Yes

No

[lightbulb27]

tough call... in general... maybe. Seems a question of power and intent.

We've told people to do that... it's a challenge so they realize what they are doing/saying is stupid and stop and rethink. We don't actually mean, go kill yourself now.

If someone is on the ropes, I wouldn't do that.

A leader like Trump Biden Hirohito or Al Sharpton saying that is probably very illegal because stupid people will follow.

writting that online on GAG to someone whom is down is very possibly a crime becuase it might be the thing that pushes them.

In general, Jesus was right..."words are like swords". He's right... wherever he got that from. You can use a huge Japanese Samurai sword to cut off a piece of damaged clothing, but you better be damn careful not to hurt the other person or your guilty of cutting them. Be careful with your words and the underlying intent.

Or maybe the new world translation... stop being stupid and have a heart you Fing selfish prick. Not you... humanity...

[Kaneki05]

She's not in Jail now, Carter got out back in 2020.
And no that it self is not crime just saying it won't get you arrested. But not helping someone you know who has such thoughts or going further to enable them is illegal.

[OddBeMe]

Ahh…was it the sentence ending or did she get overturned. I guess I should watch the docuseries. Fck!

[Kaneki05]

She got 3 years basically. With some good behavior taking off a couple months. And it took until 2017 for her actual charges. She's also on a 5 year probation which honestly means nothing.

The dumb and worrying part is she learnt nothing as they tried to appeal once more before that it was denied still her been on the defense about it been freedom of speech, which also flip flopped to another defense 'I was trying to talk him out of it' when we all know that to be lie.
Like what is the defense here freedom of speech that she told him to do this stuff, or did she never say that stuff? In which shows clear contradiction.
How the judge didn't see that to give a harsher sentence I don't know, but at least the appeal was denied yet that was only for last year which then she got good behavior for anyway lmao.

It's a mess but the simple fact is she's still young and reality is she lost nothing for it.
The thing is if she did try to appeal saying she understands now what impact she made and went for the empathy aspect she would of got less time and well we could see it as she was a misguided teen but the fact she doubled down on it makes me annoyed she's out.

[dustybiker2]

I remember the story of a young man who killed himself with a hosepipe in his truck when his girlfriend told him to kill himself. I believe that was in some form of text. I think she did get away with it. It was a while ago now.
She should have been held accountable in some form.


What is a faster death a (properly) cut throat or a fall from great height... Cowards.

[OddBeMe]

Not sure…asphyxiation would be better than slit throat fo sho. I read freezing to death is falling asleep. If the whole rainbow road of hikers up the Everest trail could talk…

[menina]

I don't know if it is, but it should be. Telling someone to kill themselves is absolutely wrong. It shows no respect for human life. You don't know if the person you're saying that is struggling with their mental health, you don't know what they're going through. It's cruel.

[OddBeMe]

I think the scotus case hinged on freedom of speech. It’s not shouting fire in a theater…as the classic example goes.

[menina]

That I don't know...

[JacobJordan]

Yes telling someone to commit suicide is a crime IF AND ONLY IF they actually go through with it. Until that point it is not a crime. It is rude and disrespectful but not a crime

[OddBeMe]

Not in some cases. But yeah it should be negligence in the least.

[JacobJordan]

Cross country lines no. But if same country (US for sure) it is in a decent number of states. Would have to delve into the which crimes are crimes in each state. Some states trespassing on property unposted is a crime. In others has to be posted for it to be a crime

[GOLDFISH_smile]

It could at least be considered harassment because automatically, that's an incredibly aggressive and threatening thing to say.

[OddBeMe]

Depends on how doesn’t it? One case I read a guy in Minnesota fetishizes suicide websites and blogs and tries to get people to film their suicide to jack off too. Got him in court and he was acquitted.

[GOLDFISH_smile]

So sexual harassment. Still a crime..

[Juxtapose]

Frankly if somebody tells you to kill yourself and you do it? That's on you. You're an adult, you are responsible for your own actions and you are supposed to be well aware of the dangers of the world and prepare yourself accordingly. Don't let some asshole manipulate you, that's weak.

[Juxtapose]

Oh yeah I forgot the guy was 13.

Yeah kids are different and too vulnerable. I would definitely call for a punishment in that case.

[Juxtapose]

Minors cannot be held responsible in the same way that majors can.

[msc545]

Telling someone this is probably protected speech.

[OddBeMe]

That’s how a lot of cases I’ve found come out. Some like above get convicted. Guess it’s more a jury and appeals court luck more than anything.

[jshm2]

You're not too bright.

They HARRASED them into committing suicide. It's not a case of just "telling" by making a text, but they got proven in a fucking COURT OF LAW that they actively campaigned them into doing what they did.

[ProbablyClueless]

It's generally protected speech, unless you do what that blonde girl did, where you emotional wear the person down until they mentally shatter

[PBandJ_Nerd]

It definitely is. And if the person does succeed in suicide, the person who told them to (bully, etc.) can face consequences for it.

[avery58]

I don't know if it is but it should be. To me that girl is a murderer