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It is good or bad?
Feminism began as a movement to get the law changed so that women could vote. Then it pushed for changes in laws that prevented women from being discriminated from getting bank accounts, credit cards, and loans on their own. Given the changes in the world, these were all necessary, and probably overdue.
But then, in the late 1950s/early 1960, Marxists, under the direction of agents ran by KGB officers, began a big push for subversion (to disguise their agenda by marketing it as something else), and they began to infiltrate and take over social movements in the west. This included the racial equality movement, the environmental movement, and the feminist movement. Marxist goals were divided up amongst these three groups, whichever group could best disguise its goals under the name of the movement it took over.
Marxist leaders, going back to Karl Marx, recognized that defeating a capitalist democracy couldn't be done politically, financially, or militarily - and the USSR killed itself trying to compete militarily. Subversion is a LOT less expensive, and a lot less risky, but it also takes a lot longer to accomplish the goals - but these Marxists were prepared to play the long game. It also helped that they had a number of the world's wealthiest people/families on their side - people who already had tremendous power and saw Marxism as the best way to ensure they kept that power.
The Marxist goal of taking over the environmental movement was to destroy western industry. The goal for the racial equality movement was to create racial division and in particular, to get the majority of people (white people) to hate themselves and call for their own destruction. And the goal for the Feminist movement was to destroy the relationships between men and women, and especially to destroy the nuclear family. They wanted to greatly reduce the number of kids born, and to destroy families so that people no longer had a support system around them that would help them when they struggled. The overall goal was to cripple western societies to the point of civil unrest - so that all of the existing systems were completely broken - so that people would vote in Marxism as a savior. Of course, Marxism ALWAYS devolves into a totalitarian dictatorship almost immediately, which means all of the wealth of the entire population is stolen by the dictator and awarded only to a handful of elites that are blindly loyal to the dictator - everyone else is a powerless peasant, completely living at the whims of the dictator. We've seen this play out in the USSR, China, North Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Cuba, Venezuela, and a number of middle-eastern and African countries - all of which were virtually destroyed in the process, and most of which saw millions of citizens (tens of millions in the case of Russia, China, and North Korea) killed by their own government for political reasons.
Most of the major Feminist leaders since the 1960s have admitted to being Marxists, and they've made it very clear that the destruction of the nuclear family was their goal. The fact that this hurts women didn't matter - these leaders didn't actually care about women, they cared about furthering the Marxist agenda, with the idea that a Marxist utopia would eventually be better for women. Of course, this is what a Marxist utopia actually looks like:
Read this article for more about Feminism's goal of destroying marriage:
nikitaccoulombe.medium.com/why-feminism-wants-to-dismantle-the-family-long-4695d45bcf88
Feminism encourages women to effectively BECOME men - to BE the men they used to want to be with - and encourages men to become women - to get in touch with their feelings, to cry, and to avoid responsibility. All of this serves to destroy marriage, and to prevent children. And in 2022, for the first time in history, more than 50% of women at 30 are childless.
www.dailymail.co.uk/.../...s-thirty-time-ever.html
This is going to be absolutely devastating to society. You know all of those office jobs, where you sit in a comfortable, heated and air-conditioned office all day? When there isn't enough children, there won't be enough younger workers, and many businesses will collapse - and millions of office jobs will be lost, and the only jobs available will be labor jobs. And just because you are older doesn't mean you'll be exempt. Imagine starting a construction career or a mechanic career at 45. And it won't just be the men either. Population collapse changes everything!
Even putting that aside, women have been LESS happy the more Feminism has progressed - which shouldn't be a surprise, because Feminism has really been Marxism, and Marxism isn't concerned with women's happiness at all. Destruction of male-female relationships and marriage and children hurts WOMEN more than it does men.
www.theguardian.com/.../womens-rights-happiness-wellbeing-gender-gap
Another interesting side effect is that, as women have become more masculine, and men more feminine, women are more likely to experience domestic violence - and there's a substantial increase of this among liberal feminist women, who are more likely to date more feminized men. It seems that these women especially tend to bully and threaten their men (with divorce, withdrawing access to their children, destroying their career, etc.), and these men often respond with violence as they see that as their only option. Though Feminists have a perception that domestic violence is far more common among more traditional male-led relationships, the data shows that the inverse is true, and that violence in female-led relationships is increasing.
So, that's largely what modern Feminism is in the west today: it's a shitshow that has done little to advance women from the 1960s, but it sure has advanced Marxist destruction of western society. Is it any wonder that 2/3 of American women don't identify as Feminists (though, regardless, their indoctrination into Feminism is largely complete anyway, because it comes from every direction)? Even most women recognize that it isn't good for society. Feminism comes from the same place that Marxism does: urban liberal educated elites, and females of that type especially. They imagine that when Marxism takes over, they'll remain among the elites with even more power and privilege. And a few of them would - but most of them would either end up as poor, powerless peasants along with everyone else, or sent to a work camp to be worked to death. That's how Marxism rolls.
A socio-political anti-male movement created by, and to exclusively benefit, political-let-leaning upper and upper-middle-class First World white women, to use their vaginas and double X chromosomes to complain loud enough in order to get free sh*t they didn't earn or deserve.
And yes, that includes First Wave Feminism and all subsequent tenets as well. I'm just not going to explain in detail what you can already look up yourself.
Also, if you're too stupid to know what actual feminism is (and why it has literally ALWAYS been misandrist and not about "equality"), don't reply to me with some stupid BS while you're on the internet right now and can look it up yourself. I will point out how much of a f*cking idiot you are and how your opinions on what you think feminism is, and how it's supposedly about "equality" are wrong. I have studied this sh*t EXTENSIVELY. Don't make me embarrass you.
What’s the purpose of life? Reproduction
Who does that? Who has the power? An uterus
Who carriers an uterus? Women do , Real
Born women with an uterus.
What is Feminism - to empower women to let them achieve anything they want and do whatever they want. They don’t need a men. Actually not even a family. But with a price.
What’s the price - well.. here is where things take a devil turn. It’s up to you to do your own research
But to give an idea
What’s the price? Maybe delaying marriage delaying biological needs to have kids. Truth is biologically speaking body of a women in her 30s scream for a baby but no you gotta do that alone: you have to make money alone you have to do this and that alone … but for what lady?
Men get satisfaction from providing women
receiving. That’s it. You agree to it or not I didn’t ask. But anyways
Men out there don’t even give a crap you have a lawyer degree plus being manly and rude and - I got it attitude - won’t help much.
Well you might say I got divorced etc my husband was abusing me etc I need to have my life set. Of course that’s true. All ladies out there have to do something with their life/ but what feminism does is put women in a denial that all women have to do this ~ they don’t give a CHOICE of denying it saying no I want to become a housewife my degree is my KIDS
They don’t like that …
If you have noticed all women leaders of this feminist drama look arrogant as hell. They don’t even love themself let alone you …
That’s why they hate family , men , life , their body , because they hate themself. And you want me to trust them ?
That’s some very good insight there.
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I absolutely love to see it when a woman understands these things. Great answer!
Thank you 🥺 but for those who agree with me.. than you need to go and find an Eastern European women lol🥺😍
You get toxic feminists and you get real feminist. Toxic is i hate men i don't need them they are such a waste. Real feminism is the that you know you don't need a man but you want one. You wabt equality in rights and everything a man can do so can you. A guy can sleep with 1000 girls and be called the guy but if a girl does it she is a slut. A guy is treated with more respect in a working environment than a girl. A guy geets better pay than a girls. We just want reasonable equality in all aspects. We don't hate or disregard or disrespect men we just want to be treated in a similar fashion.
The reason men get respect for sleeping with lots of women is that it is difficult to do. As a woman, sleeping with lots of men requires zero skills or effort.
No, we're not treated with more respect, women just only pay attention to guys at the top of the food chain, like bosses, so they think men get respect. Most women are treated with kids' gloves at work, because men find them attractive or feel protective of them. Women get promoted easier than men based on nothing but sex appeal. There are way more women in higher education than men, so if you're getting paid less, you suck at negotiating pay. This is likely another case of "men" in feminists' minds really meaning "men in leadership positions". These are a tiny fraction of men.
You say you want equality, but I highly doubt you want to pay for everything in the relationship, be the one to ask the other person out, and get all the rejection men get. I doubt you want to be judged on your career success in dating. I doubt you want to die earlier. I doubt you want to be forced to risk your life to defend your country, as in Ukraine. Let's be very clear: the exact same thing would happen to men in every country, if that country was invaded. They would be forced to defend it with their lives.
I doubt you want to live in a world where the opposite sex can go to an egg bank and have a baby on their own with some super attractive woman way out of their league, and you are basically not needed. I doubt you want equality in terms of media coverage, where you are held collectively responsible, and demonized, for the sins of other women.
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It's only bad in the sense that it is a psychological defense mechanism against accepting reality that women are naturally created to fulfill different biological, familial and social roles than men. Similar to drugs or alcohol it is a tool to cope with a reality that some women do not want to accept.
The problem isn't that women naturally have different roles in society than men, the problem is that women have been brainwashed by the political agenda of the left into believing that their role is somehow demeaning (which is not). After millions of years of history, this is a new phenomenon that started just decades ago (a mere fraction of a second in the context of human history) as a political movement to divide men and women and break down the foundational family unit, in order to weaken the society so that "progressives/communists" could reorder the country to their tyrannical liking.
It's all part of Obama's "fundamentally transform America" game.
The gender game from the left is no different than what they started doing with race, class, religion and anything else they could use to brainwash people and divide them in order to weaken the social fabric of America. It started in the schools because they knew that if they polluted the minds of the young, they would grow up and be tools to destroy their own country. And guess where we are now?
It's the same thing Hitler did by blaming the Jews for everything to divide people. All authoritarian regimes do the same thing the Democrats are doing... find was to divide people, break down the society, and then install a dictatorship.
I'm sad to say that America is on the brink of the last stages of this half century assault. November 8th might be its last chance to delay it.
People who really feel empowered don't need movements to validate them. Feminism is a political tool for the elite politicians and a psychological disease for the rank and file.
So much confirmation bias. You started from an assumption of "the Left sucks and is to blame" and reasoned backwards from there. Imagine not being able to vote, not being allowed to work, every time you have sex, you risk pregnancy and you can wave goodbye to your ambitions. Yes, feminism in its modern, Western guise is a dumb and unfair and hypocritical ideology which actively harms boys and men, no, that does not mean the solution is to rewind the clock to some trad life bullshit.
@Pot8o
You assume much that I never even argued.
I would like to k ow why you say they have a different natural role than men do. Manly because in the vast majority of animals females hunt and protect their family as much as the males. Not just that, but many animals live in matriarch societies. From lions to apes.
Also humans are very socially complex, to say "you must do that" is to put people I side a box most of us don't fit in.
Case and point, there are indigenous tribes that are matriarchies. How did that happened? They don't even own a TV yet that's how they ended up. It's all about how society develops. What society dictates is right, because normalized. Not because your nature dictates it.
Don't get me wrong, the role of stay at home parent is not diminished. But is neither is to women or men. The only problem is forcing people into a role they don't want. Do you know what happened when women because legally allowed to divorce? Their suicide rate dropped by 20%.
And it's far from new! Huns, Vikings and others had women on par with men. Funny enough they were the ones called barbaric. In fact humans lived in gender equality until we became sedentary and copper age began. That's the time when we began to fight for territory and yes men are better at it, so we were given a more important role in society. And again... what society says goes.
Then religion came and don't get me started on those freaks and their role in this. Women couldn't even do math!
Feminism (1971) is an equalization between a man and woman. Women have the right to perform any job they want, vote, live their life in their own terms without to be submissive to a man. And that is a good thing. Because being submissive in the long term would cause lots of psychological damage and would bring unhappiness. So that's why I support the regular feminism. In the last decades.. Women have become stronger than ever💪
WHAT I DON'T SUPPORT IS EXTREME NEO- FEMINISM HARRASSING THE MAN. WE SHOULDN'T HAVE SO MUCH ZAX. WE SHOULDN'T, SHOULDN'T SHOULDN'T. AKA WHY ARE MEN DK DEMONS? BECAUSE THE HUMAN IS EVOLUTIONARY THAT'S WHY. TO UNDERSTAND, TAKE AN ANATOMY/BIOLOGY CLASS
So to put it simply, what I mean with that is... that Neo-feminists shall never be tolerated by controlling a man's life to not do this or that. Like a puppet. No... hell no... hell no... just no... leave me alone, I can do whatever I want just like you
What neo-feminists want is > if there is a certain service for a man but not for a woman, that's not equality. So therefore stop the guy for doing so... please leave me alone... right now
Hey, otherwise... I love women. You can't generalize and label them the same. No. I meant a certain type of woman I don't like. Anyone has standards. Even female have standards towards men.
Wanting equal pay for the same job.
Being respected at jobs that are typically male like military and police.
Not looked down upon because we happen to be the physically weaker sex.
not seen as pleasure toys by men. And as breeding machines.
and yes many “tough” “manly” men, usually in military or police. Or in high ranks tend to see women this way. I would know
I worked very close to Police and Sherrif.
Those men are hero’s many times and helpful.
But MANY of them are SEXIST AS F—K!!
And I’m not sure if these men had fathers growing up. But in both military and police….
I’m telling you…..
I don’t think feminism are all those “femi-nazi” nutcases screaming at the top of their lung and complaining over nonsense.
It’s regular women wanting equality and respect. EVEN IF WE’RE WEAKER AND SMALLER
I m into women superiority
World will be more peaceful if women are incharge
You sound like every other man-hater out there bitching about toxic masculinity and how dare some guy look at your tits flopping around in your tank top or check out your ass. The pigs!
Goddamn man, I don’t know why you all act like we’re supposed to bow our heads in awe and reverence whenever you grace us with your presence.
I was in the military. And I have a father. And I served with women. And I can tell you that you’re a sexist. The way you stereotype people really is incredible. And we’re supposed to believe that you’re the good person here. Hah!
You’re a fucking hypocrite. You. Yes you. I say this not because you’re a woman, but because you’re you.
And fuck your backhanded comment about these people being “heroes”. You turn right the fuck around and then shit on them.
@grega239
@agagagagaga
You see, just proving me right some more 👆.
Even loser betas as SEXIST AF!
They allllll think the same way.
Just proving that there really is no “good guy”
If a man is sleeping around , “he’s not a sex toy”.
He’s cheered on and looked up to.
But if a woman does it and explores her options, “she’s low value, not wide material, she’s a sex toy”
They’re you go. BRAVO 👏👏👏👏
I don’t have to explain anything else, everything is self evident. You all have eyes to see this for yourselfs
Never seen anyone congratulate a man for being a hoe.
"exploring" is just a polite way of saying "fucking around"
Oh and to eypand on the equal pay. I worked with women. And very few actually pull their weight.
Like, you dont get to ask for equality if a man has to help you get your work done despite the fact that the contract states that you have to be able to wotk independently
@Sixgunsound
So a man is freely able to explore more options too? 🤡👍
You said that not me therefore it is not a statement I am accountable for.
Feminism was created by Communists as part of a multi-faceted plan to destroy Western Civilisation by destroying the social contract between men and women.
In the Communist Manifesto (1854), Karl Marx wrote that the destruction of the family was an essential pre-requesite for the destruction of society, so that it could be replaced by his insane vision of the "workers' paradise".
That is why Feminism was created by and has been led by insane Communist Jews, who have also often been lesbians.
I love conspiracy theories!
I just have a hard time understanding that how a term such as “feminism” is somehow defined as having equal rights for men and women yet it explicitly contains the Latin sub root “fem”.
Here is the official dictionary definition of “fem” https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/fem-
So explain to me how that word “feminism” again denotes “equality” between men and women? Really.
If it really was about equality than why can’t we use a different word that doesn’t explicitly mean feminine/female? It’s not complicated to understand simple semantics here.
The word has postive and negative terms depending on context
The orignal and base idea is good, and means well
But as with so many things leaving out for too long and it will get rotten
The basic idea is empower feminisim make woman have same rights and same respect as anyone shuld have
But over time come the more exstream, or pepole that only understand the very basic and taken that to an unhealty exstream making it a mockery of what it orignally meant
So it always depends on the context the word on its own has very little meaning as it spread so much
As a wise quote once said "You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain"
Feminism is the support for equal rights for both women and men.
People tend to get confused because within feminists, you have a faction that are true to the description and you also have another faction which is a bit kookoo and advocate almost a sense of hatrate fro men.
But Feminism is not a bad thing. It is just like most movements nowadays, you always see a rise in a faction within the movement itself that are toxic and do things that counteracts the purpose of the movement in the first place.
The reason there are bad feminists is that the ideology is bad. It simply doesn't explain the world very well, and no wonder, since it is ideology, not science. So if you brainwash people into this, they will almost by definition be destructive, because they will be sowing confusion and propagating untruths.
To me its like black lives matter vs all lives matter. The original cause was good but the labels and methods started rumbling their own way so badly that it has become something different. I mean im black, and I support human rights, not ideas where words sound like this, support black ppls rights, women's rights, children's rights, veteran's rights, poor opl rights and the list goes on. I believe we get further if we focused on all equal rights and opportunities. That covers all races genders, nationalities and everything else.
The word feminism sounds like a female reject club, that put all blames on men, for not being treated like supermodels or princesses. Even women alianste themselves from feminist movements for the stereotypes they have become.
Feminism is almost the same as Misandry. It's the hatred of men and moving herself up at the expense of men instead of doing it fairly. The whole "Equality" part is false. Equal treatment is called "Egalitarianism". So feminism has nothing to do with equality. Events like the feminist march and even the women's march are anti-male events. Especially straight white men. Feminists believe that straight white men are the root of all problems. Those women don't understand all the good and sacrifice men do. So don't fall for those false claims feminists make.
There are different waves and each wave has its own mission. The one that's pissing a lot of people off is this radical intersectionalism and I think they've dropped the "feminism" to be more inclusive of other groups... like the alphabet people or MAP's (Minor Attracted Persons)... thus the pronoun stuff and fanning the fire of racism.
Lotta chicks don't even know half the terms I just said though and they just hop on the train because yay women. You can point hypocrisies out to them like the pro-Islam but anti-christian stuff and they don't even really know what's going on.
It started as a simple movement to allow woman equal rights. It scared people. Change was bad to them. So they warped the meaning in attempt to stop it. Repeat something enough it changes it, which was the point. Kill the scary power woman had. Today it is an empty and meaningless word tossed around by bitter people. Also used by extremist woman who are already certifiable.
Feminism is a bit like conservatism, socialism, or liberalism in that it’s a set of often quite different, even diametrically opposed, ideas grouped under a particular label.
Any major “-ism” is neither monolithic nor univocal and feminism isn’t an exception. If you really want to learn about feminism, read peer-reviewed feminist authors and their peer-reviewed critics. And take EVERYONE on social media who says feminism is XYZ with a grain of salt, peer-review is key.
it's a female extremist minority that fights for their interest claiming they are fighting "for all women" but all women hardly want what they want. in fact what they do is not in most womens interest. that's feminism. and this is how minorities gain power these days. they act as though they are a huge group (look at blm or lgbtq) and then demand attention as if they actually matter while most people really don't give a shit about what they want. but now you can't even say that anymore, cause you're gonna be something-istic for doing so.
Used to be amazing... has morphed into something damaging to society.
When I say damaging I mean focusing on superiority over empowerment. Hijacked by others who are nefarious in their goals and agendas. The same people who turn blue collar workers against each other by focusing on racial divides rather than the obvious socioeconomic disparities that lead to generational inequality for all the poor and working class.
Last thing those in power want is for the masses to raise a pitchfork that they're the problem.
I don't care about terms. Show me who you are. Don't tell me because words are confusing. drunken face.
Goddess 🙇🏻🙇🏻🙇🏻
What is the true concept of feminism?
So what does feminism mean to us? Quite simply, feminism is about all genders having equal rights and opportunities. It's about respecting diverse women's experiences, identities, knowledge and strengths, and striving to empower all women to realize their full rights. 💞💞
Feminism is destroying japan, so feminism is doing more harm than good to countries.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/06/03/japan-low-births-population-decline-2021/
Actually Japan's birth rates have more to do with their work culture more so than feminism. Both men and women are highly overworked and pressured from very young age by society and their parents to get high paying careers. This is hurting the men tremendously. And is causing them to become recluse.
A label that even the different kinds of feminists can't seem to agree on what feminism should be so it is just reduced to nothing more but a label with one common notion the feminists have. That is believing that we live in a patriarchal society that puts disadvantage on women while ignoring the fact that men suffer just as much or maybe much more which basically justifies misandry.
They keep saying feminism is about equality but if you ask them what exactly is masculinism, hi chance they would never say its about equality which proves double standards.
If a movement like that goes extreme, it means it's not about equality from the start but more like equity. In fact no movement is truly about equality except for egalitarianism or equality which is equality
Depends on who you ask. If it’s first wave feminism just wanting equal rights. Then it’s good.
Modern day seems to be a man hating baby killing cult
It's largely a completely useless term. If you want to figure anything out, you need to get down to the level of SPECIFICS. What POLICIES are you specifically for or against? What behaviors are you for or against? Do you believe INDIVIDUALS should determine those behaviors or do you think society should pressure them? THAT'S what matters.