Are global warming writers, naive enough or just keyboard warriors who know they are lying?

[strateguy632]

when the sun "bakes" everybody, they emphasize "so much heat"... now under sun when... the CAUSE is sun, that doesn't support the co2 claim when the sun causes heat.

they write about "ice melting" as if that measures heat? or trends? how can they be so blind?

everyone knows if my son coughs i take his temperature using a DEVICE AT THAT TIME.

nobody puts an ice cube in the place of thermometer, under his tongue... if it MELTS, he must have fever? hotter than usual?

but that is what they say about glaciers melting that doesn't support the claim fever... hotter than usual.

a glacier can be smaller due to LESS snow fell... despite melts SLOWER than 1980 When it was replaced. now not replaced.

can they really be so naive to spread such baseless claims?

just ONE sunny day can melt lots of ice , if not replaced.

alsobeven when COLD ice melts! can't measure heat by ice.

but they echo their blind faith about ICE despite MOST days in a month colder, one sunny day 39 degrees Fahrenheit can melt much ice... despite the trend it doesn't support the claim of a trend but they talk about ICE anyway n during the day when sun CAUSED heat.

can they really be naive to the point to NOT notice ice melts as above?

faith THAT blind?

or they know they are spreading lies but are just keyboard warriors so people get tricked into voting democrat for wrong reasons.

like a sales guy lying the car is only 9000 miles only used one year, they buy a used car used longer , based on the lie, so are they realy naive enough not to notice that ice melts? and might not be replaced?

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regarding sea temperature, the SUN can warm the water... the sea.
again just ONE hot day can warm the sea, it doesn't show a trend.
the trend can be "most days not warmer" but one sunny day heated sea.
in fact they fail to claim a trend because it IS NOT HAPPENING that is why they only measure INDIRECTLY ice, sea, and now by
WAX gasp!
this proved they know most days of each month are NOT WARMER.

[Lionman95]

I would say they are naive in one point as they think they can tell how the future will turn out with mathematics. The problem is that nature is too complex to fortell how things will go in even 20/30 years, No one will put ice under a tongue and say it melting is abnormal. Since everybody knows that the temperature under the tongue is hot enough to make it melt unless the person is dead.

I don´t therefore see what the comparison with the thermostate should prove. The change of ice is used as an observation since the temperature of the sea is rising. The point is that because the temperature raises faster than the ice grows the ice melts. There are changes in the animal system for instance in the mediterean that haven´t been there 50 years ago since the sea temperature has become warmer on average.

The temperature is changing and one can measure the Co2 in the atmosphere. That can be measured with scientific experiments.

But the problem of those people is for me is that they take for granted that many of them actually want a socialistic system, they take the economy being strong for granted and that they want people to be poor.

[strateguy632]

you mention measuring co2, but not MEASURING THE AIR temperature.
why such blind faith?

[strateguy632]

the only way to measure "if diluted co2 traps heat" is at night. compare for yourself tomorrow day to night.

[Lionman95]

They measure the air temperature and compare reports about the temperature of certain places with the temperature that´s measured at this place in the last 50/60 years and from that they take a trend. That´s not the problem like I don´t know about the US but Germany has an archive of weather reports where the oldest are from 1881. It´s not like climate scientists don´t have data. The problem is rather that they think they could fortell the future through this data while they can´t. Humans can´t tell what will happen, we can only say what has happened to a certain point. I once read a quote of German scientist that has said in the 1960s that by 2025 England will be under the sea if people kept going with their lifestyle.

[strateguy632]

good example what about in your city, was night temperature "same as day, without sun because co2 traps heat" is a fact?

[Lionman95]

Thanks for the MHO. I don't understand the last question though.

[Dongie]

I didn't read all that. Just SJW's.

[Dongie]

Ahho, yeah, they have to know it's bs. I mean 99.999% if not 99.9999%, you know.