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Levin · Accepted Answer

Sure, or they say, you don't realise why that brick of tradition is there until it is removed.

Society is facing a lot of problems. Obviously, it depends on your perspective where the source of the problem lays. But we seem to have forgotten our most foundational of values, our sense of morality and wrong and right.

This kind of scientific materialism that we're living through, the dominant paradigm. It is wholly hollow. We need solutions to the most existential of problems. That sense of inner complete hollowness and disconnection, the ego taken to its furthest and most exhausted point. We are now all reaching this point.

Most people are sick and deluded. Physically sick. Any sense of health, on a whole level, seems to be completely elusive. Giving a person more pronouns, telling people they can change genders, widening this sense of division between the sexes, I'm sorry, it is not the solution to the problem. Even the basis of this post, left and right, that division, is not helping.

Having said that, peer pressure, which you refer to, is indeed there from every turn. and certainly, I'm not in favour of tradition for the sake of tradition. For example, we don't need a royal family I say. However, the peer pressure that you refer to certainly comes from the left in British society. And I know it because I am castrated on a day to day basis in terms of the people that I hang around with and what I can say. The leftists forced the complete lunacy of the covid response on the population, and did not allow any semblance of critical or alternative thinking. They forced people to take a medical intervention that was experimental, dangerous, and completely unnecessary. In any 'educated' society, I have to be careful what I say. The best that can happen is castigation and social isolation. The worst is my job being threatened or being physically threatened.

And your instinctive inner reaction to this post, which I know will be a form of revulsion and attack to your ego structure and fundamental values (though you be too cool and indifferent to admit it, no doubt), is exactly the same kind of reaction that I would generally face in 'civilised' society.

So what man or woman will have the courage to challenge this indocrination and hogwash?

Because there are consequences for those that do.

abc3643 · Accepted Answer

Not exactly.
It is, but there is a good reason that your elders had things the way they had them and want you to continue them...

In short, if you fail to learn from history, you are doomed to repeat it. Therefore, very often "traditions" in a society are established based upon a crisis or other event that the society dealt with earlier. The "tradition" may involve a commemoration of a common experience or it may be from social mores involving a response to a past event.

For example, think of holidays. In the United States, we are about to have Thanksgiving which is now legally established as the 4th Thursday in November. Thanksgiving is a commemoration of the first English colonists who came here but also of being thankful that they survived and that this nation grew because of the "grace of God" or "divine providence" or because of other fortunate circumstances...

Here's another example:
In Judaism and Islam, the eating of pork is prohibited. Why? Long ago, people got very sick or died from trichinosis, a bacterial infection common if having eating undercooked pork. Now, these people didn't know about the cause of trichinosis or even what it was; they just knew that if you ate pigs, there was a good chance you might die. For all they knew, it pissed off God to eat pigs or it was the work of Satan or whatever. So, the best way for the society to prevent these was to prohibit eating pork.

Nowadays, of course, you are not likely to get trichinosis, so we don't need the "tradition" of being prohibited from eating it, but the original reason for the "tradition" of prohibiting the eating of pork had some real reasoning behind it: You eat pork, you may die.

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

This makes zero sense to me. The pressure comes from living people. And if they were pressured, it was also from people living at the time. It's not like the pressure to get married, the most consequential tradition we have in my opinion, is from dead people. It's the people in my life that think it's wrong for me to be with my boyfriend all these years without plans to get married. Even people on GAG pressure me about it. So no.

midnightmoon05 · Accepted Answer

They lived it and have learned from the worse time… I appreciate a lot more now that I am older.  we also learn from our own mistakes… those who don’t are still lost.

D_Bone_Steak · Answer

I think it's interesting and a good conversation starting point.

It does come off as if they think they know better than all the humans before them which is really fucking ignorant. Like some zoomer take that's decided to be atheist and is trying to be edgy edge lord of the edge while sounding pathetic.

On the other hand... it is a good point. I guess it comes down to looking at individual traditions. Are they still useful or not?

For instance, I think it's good to know how to make fire from two sticks. Doing it the first time will make you realize how much practice and hard work goes into that. But if you're trying to make a fire real quick... buy a fucking lighter.

MisterWack · Answer

BREAKING NEWS: Tradition Is Peer Pressure From Dead People!

I believe in some cases it is, others it isn’t.

If you hold a tradition and not everyone conforms though you don’t hold others to them or try to educate then that isn’t peer pressure from dead people….

What IS peer pressure from dead people is forcefully marrying one individual with another individual when both parties never consented to it or gave the thumbs up, if you dare speak out you’ll be shunned from the family in the name of tradition. Looking on the outside one can insinuate that this may lead to wives / husbands not being happy with the spouse that they were chosen to be with forever against their own judgement….

Garud · Answer

People follow tradition as long as they get some emotional uplift from it.
As soon as they don't get it or a young person who never developed feelings for tradition, he/she will not continue it.
And the tradition will disappear.

It has nothing to do with the dead, only the living do it.

It is wrong to impose tradition but everybody wants to impose their thinking on others by calling it right or wrong.

In my country, traditionally, the youngest boy's head is shaven as soon as he turns 3-5 years old or when an old member dies but now they don't. But some impose it for tradition, whether the boy likes it or not.
Some people say that even though we are men, we should be considered women, so this is also a way of imposing views

ChicoFromThe305 · Answer

Yea in a way cause you don't want to let it die out, usually traditions happen when people have sentimental value to a specific moment so they repeat it and then a tradition is born if they decide to keep repeating it

purplepoppy · Answer

No because traditions come and go. Take "penny for the guy" in the UK as an example, it was dying out when I was a kid and now you never see it. Then there's elf on the shelf, a new one that will probably disappear in a generation or two.

Gold618 · Answer

People view peer pressure as being inherently negative because usually it is. Not always, but usually. As for the image, yes, that makes sense.

WhiteSteve · Answer

100%. Even meathead Joe Rogan knows that…

Maybe_Maybe_not · Answer

Unquestionably. We are constantly presented with  a choice to embrace or combat  principles defined by dead people for living people.

Still-alive · Answer

Definitely. some traditions are good and harmless others are just bizarre or idiotic from an outsiders perspective.

FreyaRed · Answer

Nope. Tradition is preventing to make same mistakes several times.

hahahmm · Answer

Nope. But I'd say that those who want to destroy/change western culture do use peer pressure to do it.

DryGermanGuy · Answer

Religious traditions, probably. Other traditions, not so much.

AviatorTom · Answer

Tevye explains it better...

Nikki1989 · Answer

Yes, I do pretty much. Most traditions should have been wiped out decades ago.

exitseven · Answer

I guess it makes sense but now that I am older I like to observe some of the traditions of my family just so can remember them when they were alive,.

Unit1 · Answer

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seeyounexttuesday · Answer

Not really. Traditions are much more important than that.

Hispanic-Cool-Guy · Answer

A bit. More like I'm sacred to form my own path so I have to follow what some old and dead pricks from the past tell me how I should live my life.

Anonymous · Answer

Omg, you're so beautiful I want to give you all my money.

LiamJHayden · Answer

Sometimes. Others it could be a tradition because it works well.

Queenofhypotheticals · Answer

No not really. I like sme traditions that make sense and that are fun in my culture

KrakenAttackin · Answer

Not at all. Traditions are a part of culture and are a glue that helps bind us together.

Paul09 · Answer

I agree with this. People are easily brainwashed, then brainwash their kids and so on.

Anonymous · Answer

Every culture has different traditions. Mexico had Day of the dead. It's extremely stupid. The dead can't hear/see/or eat the damn food!

BradleyScheff · Answer

No I do not. It is often wisdom handed down from people of old.

Slim57 · Answer

Pure pressure is following society and not tradition

saraupstairs · Answer

I tend to agree.

slatyb · Answer

I do. Most traditions seem pointless to me.

DJB72 · Answer

It's not  completely  inaccurate...

worldscolide · Answer

Man I going to steal that. I agree by the way.

Emmytexrex · Answer

Yh so many are why some are not

MrCharlie13 · Answer

No, not at all

grega239 · Answer

No. Without tradition , you have no culture

Miristheiss · Answer

No...

NewWaves · Answer

Nope

Hannajenky · Answer

Totally lol

Bklynbadboy12 · Answer

True!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Anonymous · Answer

Nope

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