The Problems With Feminism and How It Can Improve (Page 2)

[Lycralady]

These days feminism is all over the place, I don;t mean it is broad and encompassing, I mean it is thin and loosing what it started out to do. It has gotten so messed up they use triggers instead of a message. Getting people to react based on words instead of than intent. It makes for good utube videos. Without a message triggers just make people look kind of out there. Going off for no reason at times and hurting the cause.

[Shezadi]

your comment is so accurate, and I heard about this girl who throws acid on men for manspreading, I heard about on this app and one person asked a question about she bagging when women put their bags on the next seat. It is amazing how people point out petty things and get really creative in their heads.

[maiave]

i feel like we two definitely hang out in different circles. I do agree there are more serious problems, but I have never met a feminist who didn’t acknowledge at least 5 of facts points you stated. I agree there is more focus among those other things but then again - that’s because it’s happening where they are. Saying one problem has to be left I discussed because another problem is bigger isn’t a very good mentality to have. I think what you’re referring to is the term “white feminists” which, I know, sounds pretty weird but aplearently it’s the term for those girls who wear a “we all should be feminists!” Shirt yet go around slut shaming and not acknowledging any problem that doesn’t affect them.

[Anonymous]

It can move to where it is needed in the world. But it never will cause feminists are cowards!. Who won't even send money to places working to stop sex trafficing or orphanages filled with little girls who were raped all thier lives.

Never mind helping places where women have no rights instead of trying to change women into superior powerful guys and bringing down men.

They just teach thier daughters toxic ideas and wear cunt hats.

[Shezadi]

very true
which feminism has become more like an ego thing to be used for ourselves instead of giving justice to the ones who really need it and we have the police and the media to give justice

[WitchsLove]

The only thing I dont agree with is the one where women lose children in custody battles.

In most cases the children goes to the mother by default, even if the father could be a better option than the mother.

And I believe fathers are also very important to child rearing.

As for what you said... I think that is why many people nowadays have a misconception of feminism and even hate to be associated with it.

I think feminism still has a place in the world and should focus in causes like the ones you said (some feminists nowadays do). And I bate when all feminists are discriminated against, because most people think all are men hating bitches. Some feminists are fighting for the right things. Wish people could see it.

[ashleyb93]

Let's not forget the fact women are always consulted as an afterthought when it comes to our reproductive organs. For example a man can get clipped any time he wants but if a woman wants her tubes tied she has to have at least one son and daughter, be over 25, and have her husbands permission first. Or the fact you cannot choose how to give birth to your own children aka elective cesarean section. Or how hard it is to get access to birth control and legal safe abortions.

[ashleyb93]

Why all the dislikes, boys? None of what I said concerns or affects you in any way...

[Gavyn]

I disagree ENTIRELY with point 10 XD Women get biased custody in court for the sole reason of carrying the child. In a lot of cases they’d have to be a major drug addict to lose the custody fight. Besides, studies show that children who grow up without fathers end up falling into criminal activity and sexual promiscuity FAR more often than their fathered counterparts, so clearly fathers are just as important as mothers.

[drdidier2]

In the West, feminism is already old. It has served its purpose and is now outdated here. In the East it has not yet been in place, and the women are going on in their struggle for equality.
When I see feminists in a Western setting, I understand there is something wrong.

[John_Doesnt]

Thankfully the Internet and extremists don't represent the majority. You're basing your opinion off of extremist protesters that make the news or worse the Internet. Regular feminists are women who want to be treated equally because they realize the basic facts that life is unfair for them.

[bigbadred]

Who decides who the extremist or are you an extremist because you might not agree or someone else's beliefs

[John_Doesnt]

@bigbadred that was almost an English sentence. I don't understand what you're trying to say. Maybe you should use Grammarly and then type your message.

[RoadRunner650]

My high school f*** buddy used to be a sweetheart but after she hung out with this girl that was all about feminist rights she started acting up and acting out on me.. Our friendship was destroyed. This was over 10 years ago. I recently seen her.. She's not about that anymore but I can't trust someone who can take radical changes and just turn on people.. There is a thing called logic..

[DJZest]

Well spoken, brother.

[iskg679]

Feminism is a hypocritical hate movement that is rooted in misandry. That is why the movement has failed.

[ktdec]

But how come misogyny has been so successful since the beginning of time and still runs rampant today? 🤔🤔That should give you a clue as to who society values more. Think about it

[iskg679]

@ktdec What feminists define as sexism isn't really sexism though in many cases.

[AllThatSweetJazz]

Not adopting the label is a start. But then all your “serious” reasons show ignorance.

[Shezadi]

thanks and my serious reasons don't show ignorance

[AllThatSweetJazz]

"Women not getting child custody- a husband has no right to snatch his children from their mother, children need their mother more, and a mother has more right on her children than a father because she carries the child in her womb for 9 months and give birth."

No, just no. Aside from being sexist, you have no appreciation for the history of that attitude.

Virtually the whole way through you're emphasizing things that effect women, while disregarding where may at least equally effect men. You say you don't want to fall into the common conception of the label, but here you are disregarding half the equality conversation.

Furthermore, none of this addresses feminist theory. My problem with feminism is not that they focus on "small" issues, it's their theory and their postulates for where these things they describe in their theories come from. In other words, even if they focused on "serious issues" doesn't mean what they do about it is particularly helpful.

[esotericstory]

Its all a bit too woman oriented for the west to still continue this movement seriously. The gap between men and women is growing bigger and bigger every day. Campaings like metoo aren't exactly helping with that, they are quite counter-productive. There is no way feminism will regain the momentum they lost, at least not for the west. Eastern feminists should better learn from the mistakes western feminists made by being female oriented.

[pipeline78]

For years women had it goin on. House wife cook clean spend money get minimal jobs. Now we have the free woman can’t handle it need wic snap welfare child support because most can’t handle their ovaries. And it’s all men’s fault blah blah blah

[Barrabus_the_Free]

It can improve via extinction. That's the only way.

[sugarchateau]

you have a very dark valid point.

[Shezadi]

oh.. lol

[Anonymous]

"10. Women not getting child custody- a husband has no right to snatch his children from their mother, children need their mother more, and a mother has more right on her children than a father because she carries the child in her womb for 9 months and give birth."

Seriously? SERIOUSLY? YOU are more sexist than most of the people feminists complain about. Pull your head out of your sexist ass.

[Opinion Owner]

Since you didn't disagree with my comment, I will assume you do indeed see what a sexist you are.

[worldscolide]

Typical feminist. Immune to facts.. Immune to reality, Heads burred so far up their feminist asses that they cannot see when they have lost. Anon. please see my comment for more ammunition if you need it.

[worldscolide]

Really? You want to say that about my family? Grow up. Seriously Insulting my family like that Just shows that though your profile shows you as 19 and an adult, you in fact posses the mind of a 5 year old. Oh and my wife is a member of WAF (Women against feminism.) So is the rest of my female family members. The sheer stupidity that comes out of people like you is staggering.

[WeirdCinderella]

There's something I don't agree with. The 10 thing. Actually, women can be bad mothers and their husband a better father. A good father is better for the child than a good mother.
I know a guy who's been in this situation. His wife was abusive and absolutely not responsible with the baby. Still she had his custody just because she carried him for 9 months I guess

[WeirdCinderella]

*than a bad mother, sorry

[kreamykraemez]

I don't agree with child custody their are some women that should not have a child but not just "women" men to but if i have a child i want that child in my custody as well

[Bluemax]

Excellent take.

To the list of petty things, I might add the wage gap in the United States, as this gap is due to choices in career paths that men and women take.

[Phantom0288]

That's Great Personally I feel Women shouldn't have to stand up for Themselves Men should just Treat Women better to begin with!

[Shezadi]

nice comment

[Shezadi]

men should not behave like this guy called malik in the comments who said swear words to me despite knowing I am only 19 and like one guy said, "she is 19, she doesn't know shit"

[Smegskull]

We already improved on feminism. It's called egalitarianism. (Feminists just hate it because it was invented by men. They refuse to improve out of spite)

[Danxsarah]

That was a good read I agree with u 100% the issues you bring to light are more important then stereotype girls should play with barbies

[Shezadi]

thanks, I feel like my point on child custody ruined everything, I wish I didn't add that point, since a lot of men hate me now.