In Today's World of Feminism

[Anonymous]

When women are starving for days somewhere in Africa

Feminists are busy with ‘mansplaining’ and ‘manspreading’

When a woman, with a little baby on her back, is tired of carrying heavy bricks to make only $3 a day

Feminists are squabbling on wearing unisex dresses

While a woman is being a victim of acid throwing somewhere in the world

Feminists are depleting their stamina in complaining how dare men to stare at their butts

Whereas women are being kidnapped, getting raped and then murdered atrociously

Feminists are going crazy with talking nonsense in the name of fighting sexism

When a teenage girl gets married and dies in childbirth later somewhere in a developing country

Feminists are embroiling themselves in a debate whether women should rape men back or not

When a just married housewife has to undergo much domestic violence due to the dowry system and finally commits suicide

Feminists are striving for the rights to go topless in public.

Feminists indeed rarely contribute to handling hard going women’s issues in the present world. It’s because they are chewing on the trivial matters that don’t focus necessarily on the rights of really oppressed women.

We wonder that people working on solving the main problems of women are MOSTLY NOT feminists. They are usually the employees of government organizations, NGO and human rights activists , volunteers of various humanitarian and welfare organizations, officials of aid agencies etc.

Also Also, all these movements are American movements. The same as the Black Lives Matter movement. It only matters within the U.S, not the rest of the world.

[Anonymous]

Feminist are people who dont take responsibility for their doings, they dont like that women are suggested birth control to prevent pregnancy and feel men should be suggested birth control instead.. once again not taking responsibility for themselves, feminist also blame society for them not making as much as men when in reality i know lots of women who make more money than their husbands. some feminst are real some are just rebels who are looking for nothing more than someway to against the grain , i have worked in ups where they have girls who will literally avoid doing any heavy lifting and heavy anything and feel as though a guy should be obligated to help them but yet they seek eqaulity as men.

[Anonymous]

You have an excellent point, honestly. The western 'feminist' movement needs to end. I personally think we need to adopt 'humanist' or egalitarian, instead. We should be striving to help EVERYONE who are not receiving equal treatment.
Eg. Men not receiving equal treatment in family courts, women not receiving equal treatment in 'rape culture' in different parts of the world, racism, poor people not receiving adequate access to healthcare/healthy foods, etc etc.
Unfortunately, around the world, it seems that the people in charge are the ones who don't care about ANY of that. So nothing seems to change.

[JMghow]

A rose by any other name still has thorns. It doesn't matter what you call it, what matters is the goals and actions. Corrupting terms like egalitarian or humanist with the same feminist mantra, the same goals and designs fueled by the same behavior... What is the point? To destroy everything? No, leave it under it's current term. We don't need another atheism+, and diseases are best fought by stopping them from spreading, not the inverse.

[Opinion Owner]

@JMghow Um... I think you missed my point, by a wide margin.
I said we need to end the western feminist movement. We need to take up humanism or egalitarianism, and help everyone, not just focus on women.

[JMghow]

No, I understand the sentiment, but I also understand the reality: Pushing away from feminism into other terms will not change the nature of those pushing the very things which are causing the problem. I like feminists being feminists because I know who is who. If you end feminism, than the stranglehold that feminist ideologs already hold on groups like egalitarians and humanists will just grow as all the former feminists pick up a new label under which to organize. What would be better about an egalitarian? I've seen many who push the same things as feminists, and with the same fervor. Frankly, we lack the unifying metaethical structure to effectively argue with any consensus, and human nature will always be self-serving. Do you think an egalitarian woman would give up her right to vote if it didn't come with the same risk of the draft she can vote men into suffering? Will she turn down alimony, or the right to claim child support on a kid he cannot get a DNA test for? The issue is

[JMghow]

not feminism, it is human nature. You can change a term, but you cannot abolish millions of years of evolutionary psychology.

[JMghow]

Actually, that wasn't much better than my first post. Allow me to attempt that again: Instead of fighting terms, or even human nature, we need to focus on adapting to reality as reality really is. Feminism wasn't until it was, and if abolished it would only be a reestablishment away from being again. The genie cannot go back into the bottle, and the cruelty of the natural world is the only thing which saved us from facing it sooner. Men were always expendable (women and children first!), but we were immediately necessary. Now, we are only necessary in some vague proximity. Our taxes are all that women need anymore. Once automation removes the necessity for even a percentage of the fruits of our labor, what then? There is no going back (at least, not in any form which we would want). We need to find forward. We can't fight nature, not this time.

[Opinion Owner]

@JMghow I am honestly still confused about what point you're trying to make. I disagree that feminism is inevitable. Most women aren't in support of radical western 'feminazi' ideals. America may have issues with alimony, draft, etc. these aren't necessarily a human problem, but an American one. Alimony, drafts, etc, do not exist in my country. Alimony is honesty one of the most idiotic concepts to still be in use today. It made sense when women couldn't gain meaningful employment, but now? No.
People refusing to move forward IS the problem, but I don't see why we can't move forward into egalitarianism. Why can't radical feminism ideals be ignored? We can't ever totally abolish ideas, because everyone is entitled to an opinion, but we CAN, as a society, ignore radicals.

[myTake Owner]

Don`t waste your time sweety. He wants to be the white knight.

[JMghow]

@myTake Owner Hmmm... has that term changed meaning lately? I thought white knighting meant to cape for women just because they were women, not simply expressing a disagreement with a woman (which would seem the opposite of white knighting).

@Opinion Owner I don't disagree that many women are not rabid feminazis, although I do believe that most people (and especially most women) are largely guided by self-interest. Women have lived quite happily with feminazis since long before the SCUM manifesto was first penned, yet it is only now that the social ramifications have worked their way back to women that anything close to a mainstream rebuttal has been heard from women. This is not random, it is simply causation. If the possibility of a thing is created, that which is inclined towards that possibility will see it realized. Now, you nation (which one, I do not know) may not have alimony by name... but it likely has it in spirit. What else is the welfare state? This is not an issue of

[JMghow]

only the US, but rather the entirety of the west and westernized nations like China, South Korea and Japan. Many European nations even surpass the US in the overall extent of the damage done. Why? Did every nation having been westernized, and only westernized nations, simply develop the same trends at the same time completely by chance? Or was an aspect of human nature allowed to be realized due to the shared technological innovations and subsequent standard of living we share throughout the west? Yes, #notall, but that is not the same as none. Indeed, one only need look at the divorce statistics to know just how many are not part of that #notall. However, what has this pressure accomplished? What can it accomplish? Forcing feminists back into hiding? Forcing them to stream into other groups to infect, co-opt and inevitably assimilate? No, rather it must run it's course. Like you said, not all women are like that. Feminism is a problem which solves itself.

[JMghow]

Do you think it mere chance that millennials have turned against the boomers and xers who pushed these rabid ideologies? Or that Generation Z seems even less feminist still? Sure, some of it is cultural blowback, but if the AIDS epidemic didn't slow the feminist machine from railing against slut shaming, what good are these paltry shows of resistance? No, rather try looking at the number of bitter feminist cat ladies lamenting their dried up ovaries. Feminist inclinations are a non-viable genetic path: They hate their sexual partners, make themselves repugnant and murder their own offspring. Natural selection is weeding them out. Let them die off, let it run it's course. The sexodus only hastens this effect by increasing competition of the remainder of men, a competition feminist women cannot win. Saying we should embrace other terms will make them embrace other terms, and they will bring their genetically poisoned destiny with them. Rather, let them reach their natural conclusion.

[Opinion Owner]

@JMghow Mate, put down the thesaurus. Your writing is almost illegible, you're using so many similes that don't quite fit the context that it's almost impossible to work out exactly what your argument is.
I'm honestly struggling to get through the wall of overly flowery, complex statements to get to your point. Stop writing as if you were a politician trying to avoid answering a question.
Actually, I'm not sure you have a point. You're babbling a diatribe at feminists for some reason.

[JMghow]

My apologies, I was homeschooled and tend to use unusual terms. I'll try to limit my vocabulary with you. Simply put, feminism is female nature (specifically, outdated traits of unwanted evolutionary psychology) expressing itself. You can't regulate bad women, nor create a conservative enough culture to make them behave. This is proven by feminism rising out of a very conservative and regulated era. They will just turn whatever they touch into feminism, therefore, all we can do is keep good men out of bad women's way until they finish weeding themselves out of the genepool.

[Opinion Owner]

@JMghow Ok, so I couldn't grasp your point because it's sheer nonsense anyway. Good to know.

[JMghow]

Not really, which is unfortunate. Some people are rational, and therefore can be swayed by reason, but most people are running on instinct. They care about self-gratification, which is the fulfillment of outdated survival software. We are designed by evolution to do things which were once important to our being, but now are either unnecessary or even counterproductive to our survival. Those who are emotive or instinctual rather than rational, who are genetically inclined towards immediate gratification over enlightened self-interest, are not evil so much as unevolved. They are literally incapable of grasping the very concept. In fact, recent studies found that many people lack even the basics of an internal monologue. They are literally philosophical zombies (very different from the undead, look it up). We assume that because they look like us, that they are like us. This is a fallacy of anthropomorphism (the attribution of human traits, emotions, or intentions to non-human entities).

[JMghow]

I've argued with enough feminists to know that they will never understand. The fact is that they can't, and it's not even their fault. They are genetically incapable of understanding and can only react without foresight. They are fleshy automatons, clockwork mechanisms, nothing more. This was an suitably effective mechanism for survival in the past, but their internal programming has left them trapped in a contradiction which they lack the mental faculties to overcome. They will never see more than their own immediate gratification, never understand the big picture. Preserving them would not only be cruel to them, it is dangerous for us. Allowing them to reach their natural conclusion peacefully is the most humane option.

[MlleCake]

Do you really think there are no feminists in those countries trying to change things for their own people?

Do you really think there aren't any Western feminists who are deeply engaged in improving the lives of oppressed women everywhere?

You clearly are not exposed to the many facets of this incredibly nuanced phenomena we call "feminism".

Are YOU boycotting the Nestle Company's products because of their coercive advertising to new mothers about baby formula in the third world?

Were YOU paying attention when Western feminists started to alert the world as to the violently regressive tactics to enforce more oppression of women and girls under the Taliban - 30 years ago...

Are YOU involved in any groups that are helping third world women become entrepreneurial through microloans to help them lift themselves and their families out of poverty by providing fair-trade goods to a waiting Western market?

Are YOU funding aid organizations that help women seek reproductive justice in parts of the world where they may have limited access to medically accurate sex education and family planning services?

Are YOU involved in campaigns to get affordable feminine care products like tampons and pads into the hands of poor women in Africa so that teen girls don't have to simply miss school when their periods come?

Are YOU working with medical supply companies and large health care organizations to provide Bolivian women with healthcare services that improve the infant and maternal mortality rates in rural parts of the country?

Are YOU working in Africa and the Arab world to help stop child marriages and female genital mutilation?

Are YOU involved in trying to halt the international sex trafficking of vulnerable women and girls?

Because all of these are things Western feminists are doing to help disadvantaged and marginalized women throughout the world, working in conjunction with feminists in these countries.

Feminism is happening all over the globe, and it is possible for Western women to continue to improve the societies WE live in, AND work on problems in communities outside our own. We've been doing it for decades. You just wouldn't know, because you only know about feminism through a filter of what is considered news worthy. You're not actually involved in feminism, so you would have little direct knowledge of what feminists ARE actually doing.

And in the end, it really isn't up to you to decide what matters or should matter to feminists, anywhere.

[lilaqua]

Thank you. I remember posting about this on a similar themed mytake. Are people so ignorant to believe feminists aren’t engaged in the third world? The fucking UN sanctions against these things. The problem is the state is unable to fix it

[Kiran04]

No, there aren't. There are human rights activists, but not feminists. Feminists are lame brained, perpetual victims who can only take for themselves and have no self awareness. Human rights activists fight for the rights of people in need REGARDLESS OF GENDER.

[MlleCake]

@Kiran04 You will find feminists involved in every single one of those things I mentioned, and you are full of shit.

[Kiran04]

@MileCake No you won't. You'll find human rights activists who have people's best interests at heart and care about human beings as a whole, not selfish entitled women who couldn't lift a finger to make someone else's life better.

[MlleCake]

@Kiran04 Just because you have a narrow view of what a feminist is, doesn't mean it's actually applicable to the question at hand. It's just your prejudices talking, not facts.

[lilaqua]

@Kiran04 why don't you actually do something you've never done before and educate yourself. Go read some feminist academia. What you'll actually find is a) just like any form of academia incredibly diverse in opinion b) very rational and founded in people's reality.

[lumos]

But but but feminists can only focus on one thing at a time and they all choose to focus on manspreading!!! Not

[Exterminatore]

@Kiran04.

Save your breath bro... unless you’re the idiot whisper. Feminists are known to have hearing problems. As soon as you talk objective fact or make rational sense they can’t here you. Soon as you talk about how women should and deserve to be getting even more rights and privileges than men, their hearing clears up.

It’s a medical mystery and as we speak teams of doctors at the UCLA School of medicine have been woking round the clock since 1964 trying to figure out the cause of the hearing problem to no avail.

Like these ones here think a hate group would somehow even be involved in human rights. It’s comical really. Even if they did help, they’d only help the women. They’d get various governments to give women money in 3rd world countries... then shame the men for not doing more to help the women in their own countries... and leave them in abject poverty... but make sure the women were taken care of.

[ronaldo75]

MlleCake, you can rant all you want. The point is feminism has lost it's way and is WAY more imnvolved in petty bullshit than actually empowering the women on this planet who are truly being oppressed. 99% of western women, especially white women, haven't lost a THING due to having vaginas - hell, you're all MORe coddled and protected than anyone else on earth. This was a GLORIOUS post and I tip my hat to the OP. Look at how when Malala Yousafzai was shot in the face for being a woman trying to go to school in afghanistan and she told western feminists to concentrate on real issues THEY BULLIED HER INTO MAKING A STATEMENT WITH EMMA WATSON. Watson is one of the biggest hypocrites in all of feminism and they forced Malala to stand along side her. Please...

[errorgoodnameunfound]

THANK YOU! Basically said EXACTLY what I wanted to! I've sincerely noticed a lot of men from outside the US seeming to be more toxic sometimes than the ones inside, because they don't ONLY attack feminism on the issues it's often right on, but on American Ideas in general, as if Russia or some other backwards ass Euro shit country does things better for women. It's pathetic.

[MlleCake]

Every down vote tells me I hit the nail right on the head.

[Kiran04]

@lilaqua HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! "Educate yourself". Take your own advice. Just because you want me to buy into your group think doesn't make you "educated". Only unable to think for yourself.

[ronaldo75]

"Every down vote tells me I hit the nail right on the head." - you keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.

[ronaldo75]

"And in the end, it really isn't up to you to decide what matters or should matter to feminists, anywhere." - Yeah but see the pretty little problem is that now it's starting to affect men directly. Feminism is NOT about lifitng up women anymore, it's about tearing down men and keeping women in victim status 24/7. If you want to do that on your own time then that's fine but when I score 10 points hire than a woman on a placement test and SHE gets the job or university seat then I'm going to talk - and this shit is running RAMPANT right now in the US and Europe.

[ronaldo75]

10 points higher*... and actually my most recent project had a huge scandal where the company switched to computerized testing for all candidates and potential promotions as a way to eliminate gender discrimination and guess what - men CLEARLY outscored women on most promotions by close to 70% - what did the union feminists say? That the tests were "sexist" ... this shit is getting laughable at this point but it's not funny when they're FIGHTING to get their way even when they are outperformed. That's female supremacy. NOT feminism

[ConnieS]

Some may say he (I'm assuming it's a he - and possibly a misogynist) is guilty of what he's criticizing "feminists" of doing: talking about "less important" issues (such as what feminists are talking about) when there are "more important" issues (such as homelessness, people eating out of trashcans, etc.) he could be talking about. 😉

[lumos]

And what have you done for those less privileged women? Except use them for a mytake, to then not give them a second thought when you trot away on your moral high horse?

[Kiran04]

Not a damn thing. We have our own problems to take care of, which are still real problems. Feminists complain about superficial stupid shit.

[lumos]

@Kiran04 then you’re no better than the feminists you complain of.

[Unit1]

Would you prefer he did not mention about the serious problems in the developing countries? I think that's pretty much the most he can do: Spreading the message.

I would have thought twice in your place.

[lumos]

@Unit1 it’s hypocritical as fuck to complain about feminists not doing anything when he himself has not done anything either. Using them as props in his shitty mytake to get on some sort of perceived moral high ground is disgusting. He is also not spreading the message. He is using their position in society to try to bash feminists. If this was genuinely a message about people living in poverty or less privileged countries, he would not have made this about feminists at all, and he would have included tons of links to charities that you can donate to. I would have preferred that he wouldn’t have written this mytake at all, given his motives to write it in the first place.

[Unit1]

I did not expect that from you 🙄🙄🙄

(such a shame)

[lumos]

@Unit1 ok? Cool

[JimRSmith]

Western feminists should (as they would no doubt say) check their privilege.

The way they conduct themselves is a disgrace.

[ladsin]

Yes it's quite strange what get's mainstream attention.

[ConnieS]

"Feminists are going crazy with talking nonsense in the name of fighting sexism" ? How are women going "crazy"? Why do you think it's "nonsense"? A lot of people might think your post is "nonsense". But that's human nature, isn't it; we often accuse others of doing what we're guilty of doing.

Just because women have it worse in other countries doesn't mean we shouldn't speak up when things aren't good in our country.
It's like the police saying: "Well, they only stole your stereo. Someone had their stereo and TV stolen over in the next county so stop your complaining". It doesn't take away the fact that it's wrong that your stereo was stolen and you have every right to speak up and "complain" about it.

Of course, you can always find someone who has it worse than you, but it doesn't mean you should put up with situations that aren't good, either.

If a man is disrespectful, he's disrespectful and that's not right. There's a problem there. And maybe they're only acting like that because they know they're living in a society where they know they can't get away with doing anything worse. (For example, a survey was taken - not so long ago - where men were asked if they would rape women if they thought they would get away with it and a lot of the men said yes, they would.)

Too many "just married housewives", here at home, don't have to commit suicide: they undergo so much domestic violence that they end up in a morgue.

If a "feminist" is
a person who supports feminism
and feminism is
the advocacy of women's rights on the basis of the equality of the sexes
then
a feminist has a problem with women in other countries who aren't given the same rights and privileges as men. We may not hear about "feminists" speaking out against atrocities committed against women in other countries but they're around; they work tirelessly for equal rights for women everywhere, regardless of the issue, regardless of the geographical location. They work in the U. N., in organizations such as Amnesty International, Doctors Without Borders, etc.

..."all these movements are American movements. The same as the Black Lives Matter movement. It only matters within the U. S, not the rest of the world." So, what's wrong with that? Should we not talk about issues if they only apply within our own country?

[thisGUYknows]

so you're obviously biased. when you make an argument you're supposed to stand back and find holes in your own argument. feminism is a movement everywhere. the reason why it's so prevalent here is that people in this country have a right to speak out and protest. all these pictures you used in your argument portray 3rd world women. you know why you don't see them protest? because they get thrown in jail, or beat, or shamed or killed. or all of the above. I keep trying to explain to the neck beards here is that feminist are demanding equal rights. that's it. rights that us men have had all along. it's the old school right wing and religious media that is portraying them as antichrists. they're afraid of them wanting change from the lifestyle and social norms that they are used to. it's stupid. are there feminazis in real life? sure, probably. but just like any idea, there are extremists who are out of touch with the world and extend their belief to places where it doesn't even make sense. just because you don't agree with a belief does not give you the platform to say it is wrong. FOH

[MikeAndMolly]

Feminism is a global movement, not a local one.

I advocate for woman's rights and against injustice in all it's forms.

What concerns me is this argument, often heard, that because some people have it worse than you do, that your problems don't matter at all. That as long as there exists heavier, more evil oppression elsewhere, I don't have to examine my own.

That I can oppress you a little, as long as I'm not oppressing you as much as some OTHER guys are oppressing women elsewhere.

The toxic, acidic effect that low-level misogyny has on a society. bubbles up into truly evil stuff happening to women around that world. I fight the source where I see it. If I saw you poor acid on a woman, you better believe I'd be seeing you in hell, but I don't see that shit. I saw a coworker grab another's ass without asking and I put a stop to it. I heard my friend try to explain how education should work to my Master's - in - elementary - education girlfriend and I told him to cut that shit out.

I don't have a lot of money or resources. I have a voice, and I have a vote, and I have some time I can afford to volunteer. I use those to fight the evils I see in the world. I advocate against female genital mutilation and also against the wage gap. I vote to oust politicians that will do nothing about either of them.

One is infinitely worse than the other, but they both come from the same core problem, and it's that problem that us Feminists fight.

[Pejtu]

Feminism is making a future failure for society

But u know what fuck society , who cares in 2018 about anything
Females were created to take care of the kids and other female stuff / hobbies , it was like tha since humans started existing and u are trying to change that - u dumb?

U were not created to rule the world as a CEO or whoever the fuck u wanna be

Feminists seek attention and validation from ur superb job , where u work for ur boss that earns 20 times more then you , u spend 12 hours a day outside home or even more , u come back from ur amazing job to ur empty house , u sit on ur luxury bed , u open ur phone , take a snack from fridge pop the tv and search next few hours on facebook or tinder swiping left 'n right

U wanna be praised by ur work "achievements" u know what those ahievements are worth in 10.20,30 years - nothing :)
U will cry to ur pillow while being 30 ,35 or older woman, single with no husband/boyfriend/fiance/ and probably no kids too

After u get out of college with graduation u wanna do something huge with ur career , u start looking for a job , u get one u climb the fkn corporate ladder and the job becomes more stressfull , more things can go to shit , u are becoming obsessed over ur job then anything else in ur life
Few years pass u are in ur late 20's or early 30's and u start to realize what the fuck am i doing , i do not feel happy i dont feel loved or many other reasons

After 10 years u are a wrack of a person u were 10 years ago , u look in the mirror and u ask urself being 30+ 35+ years old , " what the fuck did i do with my life"

Lets play a game ;)
the choice is yours

[Pejtu]

Adding even more u got 40k $ debt bomb on ur bank account for even starting college ;)

[Unit1]

You know, I'm going to be honest with that and i expect to receive a storm of downvotes for this.

Of course this does not apply to everyone or maybe even the most inhabitants in America but... Americans have it so good in their country (I've been there!) that it seems to me, that they're pretty much bored and have gotten so used to their high standard of living and quality of life, that they just became bored and want to create or fabricate these nonsense problems or movements like you have showed.

While I'm here in the east being under pressure, working and studying both full time in the oppressive east, where in each year new laws get their bills signed to limit our freedom step by step and to control everything going as far as basic items and our private lives. People move out from here to the west, to Europe, north, Canada or north America.
I have got literally no time and no efforts and no energy to complain about stupid nonsense shit like these feminazis are making a big deal out of like you have described.

Well, at least I'm not in Africa, so it's not that hardcore messed up.

[Unit1]

A remedy for these feminazis wearing stupid signs like "boys should get pregnant too" would be sending them to the middle east for a year or two long. That should re-evaluate them properly so they know what really matters in life.

[SirRexington]

Feminists in the west are annoying. However, just because there is shit happening over there doesn't mean there isn't here too, stuff that needs to be changed. We need to stop comparing ourselves to others we deem less fortunate as a way to ignore the problems that still exist here.

Now I'm not a feminist, just to be clear, but I still acknowledge we have some progress to make. Just not the progress feminists complain about, which is redundant nonsense that doesn't matter. But there are feminists in these countries, and there needs to be. Problem is, those feminists are killed, imprisoned and raped.

[CubsterShura]

When you are girl from a third world country, and feminists here work so hard for women's rights and safety, they always did throughout history, and then you find THIS myTake from this random dude who himself probably never even fed a homeless. :')

In all seriousness, what did YOU do for these women? If you care about them so much then why wait for these radical crazy feminists to go and help them? You know they are busy with their 'free the nipple' movement. But you know better so YOU go!

And I'll leave one more cold truth here for you. A lot of these issues, can't be solved by feminists alone. On many poverty and war-ridden places, politics has big influence and control and in such situations it is near impossible to help out those women. Even then, feminists have been doing their best to protect them in these countries, don't blame us for the fact that YOU are blind to them.

[TheHillsRAlive]

REAL feminists are trying to help everyone. REAL women don't want to see ANYONE abused (children, women, men, elderly etc)

We CAN make our voices heard without this constant dribble about feminism. It doesn't take a MOVEMENT... it takes people DOING something for whatever cause is close to their hearts.

I personally support NGO's that fund girls getting away from being sold into marriage in Africa and India- not much but that's why I'm doing... alll without crying about my cushy privs here in the states

[demonics]

Because western feminism is a branch of the tree of progressivism. At the root of this tree is communism. Western feminism doesn't give a fuck about those people because they've got nothing to gain from them, they've got no power, the countries they reside in either have no power, or actually have systems in place to prevent communism from infiltrating i. e. Islam. SO, dumb teenage girls, and unattractive women, who lack critical thinking skills, have access to or control the flow of trillions of dollars, and the men who desire them, it is.

Women complaining about men spreading their legs on public transportation (ignore their 42 handbags) vs women taking up arms against warlords because their men have all been killed, and its only a matter of time before they (the women) give up.

[SirRexington]

There is nothing wrong with progressivism and the root to that tree is not communism... Thats a whole other tree altogether, and its an inevitable tree whose fruit we must pick once we evolve and move past our current situation.

[SirRexington]

But I agree with everything else you said.

[CuChullan]

I think you should educate yourself before going on a rant about feminism. Intersectionality. It has broadened the whole debate among feminists that challenges the belief that gender is the primary factor that determines women's fate.
Your take, unbeknowing to you shows how little you know about actual feminism. Yet your take raises many issues that come under the feminist heading of Intersectionality.
Feminism to many, women including men, don't know about, and neither does MSM bother highlighting, the actual issues feminism want out in the open for discussion and finding ways of resolving to better the lives of those women you highlighted in your take.
Feminist issues that effect women in Western societies, do not effect women in many other societies. Those issues have to be addressed so feminism benefits all women in all societies.

[Anonymous]

The problem is 99% of western feminist have never been oppressed, so they have to 'manufacture' oppression so they can victimize themselves. Do you know how privileged you have to be in order to complain about air conditioning?

[myTake Owner]

EXACTLY. they have no idea how privileged they are

[BrittBratt2416]

Well lets be a little honest guys, back in the day there was forms of oppression due to your sex. If you were a woman you weren't allowed to vote, you couldn't do some jobs or even open a bank account, and some men were sexist against women and saw them less than. Those are one of the many things that started the feminist movement, you can't ignore those things cause they did in fact happen. Were western women more privileged than others, absolutely but they still faced rules and regulations because of their sex.

[myTake Owner]

@BrittBratt2416 Yes that is true as well.

[shenzen]

Well back then as you say , men were actually more oppressed , men died in coal mines working their ass off and also were forced to kill and do bad things like fighting in wars , being tortured and killed most of the time while women SAT on their cosy asses being safe from the danger.

[Opinion Owner]

@BrittBratt2416 true , however how many women NOW experience those things, in lets say the US?
My point is, modern feminist complain about stuff that's irrelevant or stuff that they never experienced. That's what I mean by they like to victimize themselves. Like a woman born in 1995 and tell me she's oppressed because women couldn't vote in 1890. By that logic, I'm oppressed to because my great grandparents were Indentured labourers who were once exploited.

[BrittBratt2416]

No, I agree now that 3rd wave feminism isn't oppressed, but you did say that 99% of western feminist have never been oppressed which isn't true.

[Anonymous]

I belong to a country with the poor situation of women that you highlighted.

And this is why i am a feminist. A real feminist.

I would support women but not beyond a certain limit. I am not supporting women who are squabbling for unisex dresses or who are demanding "freedom" to go topless.. I DONT support them.

You and me, we are real feminists.

And the people who agree with your mytake are also real feminists.

The western feminists are FAKE. feminism cannot exist in western world. Western countries do not need feminism.

[BrittBratt2416]

Because feminism in the west was made for white women, not women of color.

[myTake Owner]

Yuup that`s true.

[BrittBratt2416]

That's why I'm not a feminist or call myself one either, it's made for only white women to get ahead while leaving other women who don't look like them behind.

[myTake Owner]

I take you`re not Caucasian, yes? But there is definitely some truths to that. And i`ve seen it with my own eyes. Women of color get treated waaay differently than Caucasians within feminism.

These bitches are a whole cult. And half of them are fake too. Many use it for clout, special treatment and you name it.

And where you`ll notice the difference too is when it comes to certain topics. It be more the white ones that will protest the dumbest things that really shouldn`t be that big of deal at all.

But hey, i`m not a woman so what am i say, why do i even have a say right :)

I have a penis, therefor you must hate, wish i die, because the problem is men, right. men men men men. if men go away, there will be no more hunger, poor, etc etc

[BrittBratt2416]

No I'm a black woman and I see how white feminist are to black women, they don't say anything about our plight, our mistreatment, or terrible representation in the media at all. In fact they are dead silent, but as soon as black women are being exclusively uplifted, praised, or called beautiful.. then that's when they appear to say all women are beautiful in attempts to strip the light off black women or any woman of color to make something that wasn't about them, about them. And that's because they are use to being catered to and getting everything they want, as soon as they are excluded that's when they begin to cry.

[myTake Owner]

Boom exaaaactly

[ConnieS]

I know plenty of white women who are "feminists" and they speak up for anyone who is mistreated - regardless of their skin pigmentation. That's what a strong woman does (regardless of what she's called);
she does what's right,
she looks out for those who are abused and
speaks out when she see's injustice.

[BrittBratt2416]

@ConnieS on a collective scale white feminist aren't doing anything no e helping black women. They are only looking out for themselves. White feminism is about being on top and having just as much power as their men, they feel it's their cause even though they are women they still white.

[weasley8]

How many feminists have you actually spoken to for more than ten seconds?

We are addressing all of those things that you claim we ignore. It's slow progress. Also, the fact that one thing is a bigger problem, doesn't mean that the other thing isn't a problem as well. Why can't we address both?

Also, many of the things that you are saying feminists advocate for are just completely false. No one is saying that women should rape men back. That's just ridiculous.

[MittenstheGlove]

While the point of feminism has lost its way.

I think this post was still absolutely garbage. You know why it’s hard to do anything in these other countries? Because of the in ground roots of said countries.

Mind you feminism isn’t what should have been the goal of their movement, but rather equality.

We have children suffering in silence on our own soil. While we donate to wild life funds.

Anyway, there are Social movements in other countries.

But there really is little reason to compare America to third work countries. We can’t even compare ourselves to first world countries tbh, we’re very different.

[pitzi]

How dare you! Mensplaining is a real issue!! Sharia law is a peaceful muslim way of living, we're being oppressed in America with all these men spreading their legs 😭😭

[myTake Owner]

lolllll

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Yep everything we say is mansplaining to those feminists. Thanks by the way

[pitzi]

Oof the downvotes lol

[myTake Owner]

Oh know, they`re gonna hate you for this :) they`ll think you`re on men their side