Your google definition fits quite well. They dont tell you, that they hate women but their actions are quite obvious. Also I think often the order is often a bit different. First they are not that successfull with women but maybe on a normal level. Like trying a but more and different would probably have results.
They do go to the internet forums though and learn about the movement and their inner workings. They get indoctrinated into the alpha male lie and that kind of bullshit and try to play the 'bad guy' to get 'successfull'. After that not doing anything they learn the hate and keep pushing the agenda that its all about money and things not under their controle like height etc.. all of that while ignoring the fact that maybe their hatred is what makes them not get someome so they continue the blame game.
Most incels would probably not continue being an incel if they would start being decent human beings but that doesn't fit their agenda.
No, one said that. But now that you did, that's far from average. If you need these hyper specific things to bring a point maybe just dont. The even more sad thing is that a lot of incels think they are the 'nice guys' and the better alternative while at the same time being pure misogynists.
The google definition you posted. It's not just a virgin, no matter how literal people are about the name. It's also about resenting women and hating them. That's why there have been multiple incel mass killers.
Incels will use the "we are just lonely virgins, involuntarily celibate that's all."
To try to act like victims when they know deep down that's not all it is. Then proceed to refer to women as foids and advocate for things like women being mistreated and raped and acting like women are the sole issue to all of their problems.
You don't have to go too far on the internet to see what they're really about. Hell, even on this site there are numerous incels who constantly post nothing but questions that are all anti-woman questions
Literally a question right underneath this one in the feed that is asking if there are any loyal women. That women aren't loyal. Lol. That's an incel douchebag
It's also bad on the other end with any women just outright hating all men.
All of these people that just resent and hate the other sex, needs therapy. Mental illness
Then why don't we just call them Misogynist? Because like half of the people in the comments are saying that Incel means involuntary celibate. I think it's just setting up people to associate virginity in males with some negative associations. The word incel to me just puts so much focus on sex instead of the real problem which is misogyny and evil doing.
An "incel" is someone who is involuntarily (that is, against their will) unmarried (which is what "celibate" means, as anyone who didn't sleep through Catholic school can tell you). From what I see online (which may not be representative of reality), this is FAR more common among women than men.
Why, exactly, this would lead to hostility towards those who aren't is unclear; I suspect it's just the result of a big media push to find a new bogeyman, since there aren't enough terrorists to go around and Covid is such a dud.
INCEL is just short for involuntary celibate... and I'd classify most of them under the black pill.
I'm just purple pilled living my best life with the Drizzle Drizzle.
@Billlewis As always I thank you very much Billewis... you good sir you. 🫵
You're quite welcome, Sir, and I envy you feverishly, as always. For anyone who happens to be following this thread, Mr. VInjector's original comment exemplifies how best to join a conversation about a potentially hotly argued subject. He could very easily gone the route of, 'These degenerates are real sickos, and I hope they all burn in hell', etc. Instead,
@Billlewis Oh gawd I know. It's like mentioning MGTOW or asking about it and a bunch of uninformed white knights will attack them as woman haters or assume they're INCEL's and they just are not. They're usually banging a chick right now, they're red pilled...
Then I see it... a combination of hate and ignorance... so few want to understand these philosophies. We should understand first before we take a stand on them. When people don't even understand... they shouldn't judge yet... they should learn first.
@Billlewis With that said... look at the Google search response. Those of us that are basically the internet know that's the blue pill take on what it is. How many here understand that?
@Billlewis You know how it is... Vagina Injector got schooled by the best. The student has surpassed the master debator.
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In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with being an involuntary celibate.
I've heard "Brainsoverbeauty" say that she thinks anyone who uses such words is toxic and I'm starting to see why. Because it seems to me that a good amount of people are just shaming involuntary celibate people.
If we are really talking about misogyny then why not just call them misogynist? By calling them incels we are putting so much focus on sex and off misogyny. We see misogynistic men having sex all the time. So are we saying they are okay? Because they aren't incels?
I just don't understand why we're using the word when we really are talking about misogyny. I don't get it.
by the way the gender war on this site is strong. I see men generalize women all the time here and many of them are in the comments down below. I see women doing it too. It's just funny to me because I think most people are losers. And I think that is the word we've always used. Now it's become about having sex. As long as you're having sex you're somehow not a loser now. Strange.
weak people use weak definitions. everyone - man, woman, not either, both, some other kind of thing - they're all just assholes to me. reproduction gets done by mosquitos and fleas and leeches and viruses and every other kind of parasite, even humans. 100% of all assholes had parents who had sex, so yeah, nothing to be proud of
Someone who refuses to adapt to life. Thinks the world revolves around and will meet them halfway. Due to this thought process they believe they are entitled to relationships with woman. That effort from them in any possible relationship is not required. Frustrated when they cannot gain a woman's attention, seeking this attention then becomes instigation and or harassment. Every encounter then turns aggressive. And they wonder why.
Someone who due to being dealt a bad genetic hand is unable to attract romantic or sexual interest, thus INVOLUNTARILY celibate as opposed to VOLUNTARY celibacy which is what monks and depressed women do.
@vv3zzy123 If it was about thought patterns and emotions, it would be voluntary celibate. The emotions are the effect, not the cause.
My definition is, "A guy who could not score if he were handing out pardons in a woman's maximum security prison." Otherwise, those who are usually called that are really just guys who are upset that women they consider attractive are not entralled by their desperation and depression.
Boys who sexually only want women that are significantly more desirable than themselves, and who directed their frustrations at not being able to obtain such at said women.
My definition has a spectrum to it. It is a function of how much ass a man believes he should have versus how much he actually should have. I would say ratios larger than 5:1 is incel territory but I would understand a 4:1 being considered one, too.
A loser who blames the opposite sex for what he can not have or get.
I just see them as involuntary celibates. Nothing more. I can't see any reason to spend more mental time thinking about whatever possible nuances they may have than I spend thinking about different types of flour.
By definition it's involuntary celibate. But it's used as an insult by many today and very often overused. If someone has some opinion that's offending to a woman then I find him being called an incel. Some don't even want sex and wish to stay away from the whole idea. But in the process they're called an incel. I don't know man.
Men belonging to Generation Z in the 2010s are deluded and idolized losers who are unable to find love, much like Adin Ross, because they grow up listening to pedophiles like Dan Schneide and Aaron Taylor Johnson
Someone who can't get a date no matter how hard they try, and that usually turns into hate for all women.
A guy or woman that has trouble getting laid, usually due to personality issues
Someone, presumably straight, who opposes or won't have a relationship for certain reasons.(I think.)
Real definition- a guy that puts down women because he can’t get a woman
Idiots in society has made it mean a man who can’t find a woman and that’s a lie.
ALSO THIS VIRGIN SELF PROCLAIMED INCEL 👇
https://youtu.be/SvIGDVKKMV4
You’ll have to speed this video
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Usually they’re very awkward, nerdy and creepy.
They total weirdos and later in life past age 35 they become Predators or Pedos , because they feel like they missed out in their 20’s and their teens. So at 35-40 they think they deserve a teen. Also severe porn consumption turns them into that as well.
If you watch the second video there from that creator he says he missed out on being with teens when he was a teen so he wants a teenager now.
Incels have severe developmental issues and they had father figure to discipline them or teach them to looksmax and attract females naturally. The father is the one who makes you hit the gym. Not the mother.
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Eww what a creep. And the fact that he's vlogging the whole thing.
Resentment makes people spiritually sick.
There’s also several virgin incels who went on massacres to end young women, or women killing spree ‘s.
Only because women would never choose them
The Elliot guy wasn’t even hideous but mentally unstable. By hearing the things he said , he hadn’t even talked to a woman, and off the bat assumed no women liked him
https://youtu.be/32I4uxAU8wQ
https://youtu.be/dncn-zVuQoE
https://youtu.be/dr8iLO_VkbA
https://youtu.be/IbhExf8eOSU
https://youtu.be/20ZvGkLL-V0
Yea I heard about those cases too. This guy in Toronto (where I used to live) drove down a sidewalk killing 10 and injuring several others. Horrible.
A person who does not get to have sex and would like to have sex. Simple as that. It's literally in the word itself.
Its right there in the term; involuntary celibate.
Are you next going to ask for the definition of boy scouts?
update false! it "in" means involuntary like not chose to be single but single.
To me: simply a guy who wants a partner but is unable to get one. I discard the mainstream idea of an incel being a mentally unstable fake nice guy who will turn into a terrorist if rejected
problematic immature person
The opposite of volcel
Did you know that the term incel was started by a woman and was originally meant to be a good thing?
You should do a similar question about femcels
Stick with the basics: INvoluntarily CELibate. It happens to everyone eventually, men and women alike. The use of it as a pejorative is complete nonsense to me.
Desires sex and tries to get sex but can't nor sexually attract women to him.
Incel: 99% of the men on GaG 😅
This!
A dude that can't attract women even with trying and self improvement
a guy who is frustrated to find a dumb and rich girl?
Insecure basement dwellers.
Simple, a guy who's involuntarily celebate
@vv3zzy123 Would a 1 year old wish to have sex? If not, then they're not involuntarily celibate.
The only thing it's better at than the proper one, based on the two important parts of the word itself, is being demeaning to a certain group of people in pain. Those of them who are the way You seem to see them are this way due to how they are being treated by the society. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy... So the society better not see them as a threat to itself, or the dreams of the outcasts might come into fruition. Not that I'm opposed to such a scenario, though. I'd actually appreciate it.
A nice guy.
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