I met these guys. They said they cold approach women, but get no dates. I asked them if they were incels, and they said no, but isn't an incel just an involuntary celebate? If you approach women but can't get dates, doesn't that make you an incel? If you approach women but get no dates, that seems like they are involuntarily alone, and involuntarily single because theyre looking for dates but women are just not reciprocating


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