What's your take on incels?

[Anonymous]

[Sonorous]

A lot of them aren't incels by definition. Because they can get laid if they tried hard enough or wanted to. But most incels don't just want sex. They want sex and an emotional connection.

Also, most are harmless. It's just that they don't have a strong face of inceldom so the bad side of it will seem like the face of it all.

Here's a good video talking about the topic. I agree with everything in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/f7wO17xlS-0

[Games_]

Their blackpill science is the truth but it has too many loopholes when it comes to a testing.

Incels are so driven by pseudoscience that it allows it to shape them

What they dont realise is that they can't let it stop them for getting a women, and that they have to play the numbers game and build a steal mind

[Asker]

They have played the numbers game for years and it didn't work

[Games_]

They can't talk to girls then.

I don't know why you want to defend them.

They always claim to kill themselves at age 20 just because they have this twisted view that a tall white guy is fucking every girl

I even seen plenty of incels say that the average guy is incel level in looks.

Their mindset is messed up.

Once they see a ugly guy with a girlfriend they start making hella excuses, because it doesn't fit their little blackpill psuedo science

[Asker]

That's because those are rare exceptions to the rule. Studies have shown that girls view 80% of guys as below average in attractiveness, yet guys view 73% of all girls as average or above average. When an ugly guy is with a hot girl, it's unequivocally for money and she's cheating, too.

[Games_]

Dude no it's not like that at all.
You can bring up these studies but again 80% of these guys are the human population right? So according to incels only 20% of men on this planet are having sex, that's bullshit.

Only reason guys have a higher number of women they find attractive is because they are desperate and can't pick and choose. Men are just as shallow as women if were being honest.

And a ugly guy being with a hot girl isn't rare. Actually I've seen women with guys below their smv. You can say it's a anecdote, but if what incels preach is true then this anecdote shouldn't exist.

Incels are pathetic

[Games_]

I've honestly seen the black pill in action myself today, but again I realised not everything of it is ABSOLUTE. You gotta realise this shit is psuedo science because it just isn't accurate.

[Asker]

You take anecdotes over studies, all of your credibility has been lost

[Games_]

doesn't matter

Anecdotes wouldn't exist if the following was true

[Asker]

It is true and when it's not, it's never for good reasons, she's always using him for something and seeing someone else on the side

[Games_]

You incels can complain and justify science and the blackpill over and over but at the end if the day, there's people breaking that law as we speak

[Asker]

That's because exceptions exist, but they're just that, exceptions that are extremely rare and represents the exact opposite of what happens in every other instance.

[Games_]

Nobody is using anyone. A women can go with whoever they feel is best. They don't care if he looks like a super model or not. Locking in a relationship to some women is more than just how good he looks and how much of a thug he is.

[Games_]

If it's rare I wouldn't encounter them often. You know what's rare for me, seeing a good looking guy settle for a ugly girl. That's pretty rarer for me then a girl dating a ugly dude

[Asker]

Yes, but women have the luxury of simply waiting and choosing who to be with, whereas guys have to compete with literally everyone else and if he so little as has a scar on his arm, he's done because there will surely be a guy next to him without one.

[Asker]

I find gold all the time by the creek, but that doesn't make it common

[mike5150]

I would say most of them are harmless but how they go about seeking women and how they handle rejection is very off putting. I remember when I was young fresh out of high school having feelings of loneliness and left wondering why I felt worthless. Eventually I had to work on the problems I had because you can't just sit there. When you find peace and happiness in being single you will no longer be putting this grand thing on a pedestal you have built up. Don't close yourself to opportunities. You gain nothing by doing nothing. Don't hang your head and say no I can't because that's where you lose. How you feel is important to how you present yourself. If you feel that no matter what you do isn't good enough for others than that's what people will see. After time and staying positive I actually had women approaching me after I had been single my whole life.

[Optymistyk]

I think incels are right when it comes to a lot of things.

And completely wrong when it comes to other things.

Most incels I think could find at least some level of success with women if they put some effort into it. A lot of them could even get good results if they worked on themselves instead of making excuses all the time

[Asker]

Most of them have tried for a very long time but to no results

[Optymistyk]

Well maybe they've been not trying hard enough or they've tried the wrong things.

I'm not saying all incels have a chance, I trully believe there's hopeless cases where the guy is just deformed or sick. But most of them really have no reason to be cellibate. Like this guy

https://youtu.be/DdHqzr4DyIs

He has a normal (though chubby) face. Nice curly hair. Doesn't seem overly short. No acne. All he needs to do is loose some pounds, dress better, get a good haircut, maybe workout a bit (though that might be too much to ask for) and start behaving like a man. The only thing that's keeping him at bay is himself

[Robertcw]

@Optymystic I agree 100%. He actually has a nice face, and great hair. Even at his current weight he could date.

In fact, he could date without changing anything.

He just never went to college so he nuked the number 1 way girls want to be approached: in class.

Even got guys who are random strangers with no social life or connections will suffer.

[Optymistyk]

@Robertcw I kinda nuked that too by going for an IT major. There's always been like 4 ugly girls per 40 guys

[Robertcw]

I'm starting to think, who cares? There are too many gender imbalances.

Level the playing field in all aspects and then it will matter.

[InfobotsMom]

It's a needless label that accepts defeat when defeat isn't proven. You don't hear 90yr olds claiming to be incels. It's almost always young guys who have many years ahead of them and yet they've predicted lifelong defeat already.

[Asker]

It's possible to put a lifetime's worth of work into 8 years, and when all of it leads to zero results, sometimes they have no logical choice other than to give up.

[Games_]

@Rangers the result is never zero. Every women doesn't like the same thing. Incels have to play the numbers game because what they dont realise is that their ideologies are just psuedo science

[Coonie]

Its about as useful a description as saying someone is "tan" ir "blonde"

[moonpie89]

No take. I don't care about their views.

[Robertcw]

boo. You gotta start caring.