Is there anything incels bring up that you do agree with?

[Anonymous]

One thing i do agree with them on is how important physical attraction is and if you're not attractive, no one cares about your personality or character. That's the only thing i can agree with

[BetaBucks]

A lot of their arguments against modern feminism are solid and I've held those same beliefs since college sociology made me realize that I'd been lied to my whole life. Sometimes they're right about female nature, in general. They just tend to frame it in a misogynistic way, and push away most people that would have listened.

[Asker]

I agree. But then again feminsim says nasty things about men and in general no one bats an eye

[BetaBucks]

Of course. It's a crazy double standard.

[Dongie]

Isn't that the whole thing?

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Nope, not a thing. They always make themselves the victim when they aren't. They just can't get laid by the type of woman they want which is way out of their league. They feel entitled to sex and don't want to do the things to earn it. They blame their looks or lack of money basically painting women in a negative light that it's all we care about. They blame "chads" for stealing all their women, which again is entitlement.

So no, I don't agree with anything they say or believe.

[Asker]

I don't even think women on their level want them. This is part of the just world fallacy

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Most people think they are better than what they are. Then you get people with low self-esteem like me who think they are worse than what what they probably are.

[Asker]

Other people will be the judge of that

[Billlewis]

Well said; I couldn't have said it better myself.

[Asker]

@Billlewis Thank you

[Dongie]

Like feminists.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

How is any of that like feminists?

[Dongie]

Watch me, because their very existence is to blame men for all that is wrong in the world. That right there is how they coincides with them.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Incorrect. Feminism is just wanting equality between the sexes. We don't blame men, we just demand to be treated as equals. Now there are radicals within the movement who are just men haters but that's different and they are just misandrists not feminists.

[Dongie]

And how many men are in that pathetic group. As many as there are females thar are in the group you say is a spinoff but I say the whole bunch of feminists are man hating bitches. Everyone I've had the misfortune to listen to. I grew up with the wicked witch Gloria bashing men. And watched it grow into a sport in the 90s. I don't care what you call it.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Well I guess it's lucky that I don't care what you are calling it either. I know what feminism is and misandry is. They are two different things.

[Dongie]

Good for you🙄

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Indeed, it's good for me. 😁

[Laciejordan]

I guess you and I both need an act of congress to have a discussion under another members opinion on YOUR question! She deleted my comments! Probably because I agreed with you 🙄. It's YOUR question! You and I don't need special permission from her to interact with each other. While I don't necessarily agree with your opinions, I respect and appreciate them. She actually hurts her own cause by her immaturity.

[mobiusforniner]

Amazing physique will help you attract shallow women. And if that’s what you’re looking for, well, I think that says a lot about you and your goals.

[Asker]

Caring about looks isn't shallow. When its the only thing you care about then yes it's shallow

[RebelinSteel]

Nothing, a stupid name for stupid people. Ref the attractive thing, how do fat people get married then?

[Asker]

They get lucky or werent fat when they dated

[RebelinSteel]

Go outside, get some fresh air and look around at normal people. That’s reality and is what makes the entire Incel side of things just a bunch of fuckwits.

[Asker]

I need your condescding advice. I do go out and have a life. Im not an incel but i can still agree with them on some things

[Asker]

Don't*

[Nikki1989]

No, still waiting to hear anything from them that makes any sense at all.

[Agape93]

Nope

[Asker]

Do you think this is due to bias?

[Agape93]

Nope. Not one of the talking points they bring up have any sense of reality to them, much less any sort of ideological simpatico

[Asker]

Most people care about physical attraction though. That's the first thing we notice

[Agape93]

That's one thing, but not usually the sole determining factor. Usually it's vibe. If you look like someone stepped on you as a baby but you are fucking great to be around, you're good to go. But if you're like a super model but you make us feel unsafe or like something is wrong here, you won't get a chance.

[Asker]

No but it starts everything. Without physical attraction, nothing else matters. That's normal and most human beings has this built into them.

[Agape93]

If the only thing you think has value is physical attraction, then you definitely don't understand women. On even a basic level.

[Asker]

Re-read what i wrote. Never did i say looks are the only thing that matters but they do start everything. Looks get your foot in the door and your personality lets you stay in the house. But it starts with looks

[Agape93]

"No but it starts everything. Without physical attraction, nothing else matters."
You literally did

[Asker]

It starts with looks and personality keeps.

[Agape93]

Then your prior statement was bullshit. Physical attraction is one factor, it may catch the eye but it doesn't catch the heart, mind or anything

[Asker]

If physical attraction isn't there, does it lead anywhere generally speaking?

[Agape93]

Yeah, because while physical attraction matters, more important is emotional and mental attraction.

[Asker]

But most people won't give that a chance if they're not attracted to the person first

[Agape93]

Says you

[Laciejordan]

A lot of times the situation you're in dictates the outcome you want but don't get. In school, there was always those guys that weren't good looking but pretty girls seemed to like them. The situation was very different then. You were confined with girls all day and had the opportunity for them to really get to know you and develop an attraction toward you, looks didn't matter after a while, because they got to know you. Then, when that changes and you go into the "real world", the situation can change and you no longer have that daily interaction with the opposite sex. Perhaps you're in a male dominated job or just don't have the chance for that interaction, other than grocery stores or bars/clubs. I'm sure it's tough and it's easier said than done but make yourself available. I'm sure there's certain things you can do, community wise, to meet people and make connections.

[Asker]

Why do you think i include in general? Because the majority of people's attention trigger starts with looks

[Asker]

@Laciejordan The just world hypothesis. And this question wasn't referring to me. And how do you know i haven't already done those things? I'm 29 years old and have a lot of experiences with people and how they behave and what attracts them. Majority of the time it starts with looks. And usually the guys that women say are ugly with beautiful women are just average looking guys. Women don't even know what ugly actually is.

[Laciejordan]

"This question wasn't referring to me". Very next line, "And how do you know I haven't already done those things". At least be honest. I was only trying to help. 😊

[Asker]

@Laciejordan Just because i mention the second line still doesn't mean it waa referring to me. I only said that because logically how would you know someone hasn't already tried said things? It was a general question

[Agape93]

Stop bickering my comment stream.

[Asker]

Turn off your notifs

[Agape93]

I said knock it off so knock it off. This isn't a debate.