Why do people say that incels are repulsive because of their personalities yet so many women date toxic guys?

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lightbulb27 · Accepted Answer

makes sense when you think about females reality, over history, what they are trying to achieve... think about the scope of suffering in humanity.

Females want to make offspring and protect them and then they die. that is nature. The incels projection is emotional weakness... doesn't know himself, lacks confidence... and that leaves the female vulnerable to fates worse than death... the suffering and misery of her offspring.

ideally, they want a man that prioritizer her and offsrping as #1 and gives her all she asks (imagine like William and Queen of England as example). That's what women want. But some such powerful guys are corrupt, and will cheat, abuse. Women don't like that and may not accept it, but that's better than an "incel".

They'll take a strong man even if he's an A-hole. A senator is far better than a soldier as the senator has power and wealth and control. That's security. Security is #1 to female.

To achieve this security and priority... the woman needs to exercise emotional control over the male. That be "love" or in absence of that, some kind of manipulation in it's replacement so she can get what she needs. They will use guys... an incel might work there if he's that warped, ask me how I know. Nice guys with giving hearts can be fodder for being used by manipulators.

The womans motives may be corrupt as well, so be aware of that. Not everyone is pure.. this is a very damaged emotional world, and as well with different cultures of what is right and wrong.

hopefully that colors your chart enough to understand...

V_Injector · Accepted Answer

Women just want the butterflies in their stomachs. We uh top 5% dudes provide that. They are currently willing to forget about a real relationship just to share me and dudes like me with all the other girls that are doing the same. Do I blame them?

I do when they start bitching about how I treat them like shit. Why am I supposed to treat a beatlejuice looking bitch good when she can get with a beatlejuice looking guy? I'm just fucking over here alright! Damn!. Yo bitch choose me. I will admit that she shouldn't have.

I'm the adventure. Instead of sucking up and simping I crush a beer can on my head and throw it at her. I'm trying to get it to bounce off her stupid fat head. I don't give a fuck if she leaves... those other guys... yeah... they give a fuck don't they? 😔 That's not my fault.

You're just watching biology at work my friend. I might be the guy that takes a nerd that can't get laid, publish his books, he advances in science, advances humans in science... and me... I used the money to pay for cocaine and hookers.

Why do people say that incels are repulsive because of their personalities yet so many women date toxic guys?

shoeboxcerealcard · Accepted Answer

Oh that's easy... Because... They make women feel good in the process. Incels don't manipulate. They tell you how they think and what they are from the jump.

Incels want others to think like them. Players manipulate you mentally. They play the game. Honestly most people are incels. Most people want to tell others how to think and act and what's right and wrong. And obviously im not talking about the sex part. I don't think we should be shaming people for not having sex or having sex.

OlderAndWiser · Answer

You assume that incels and toxic guys are identical?

liggang · Answer

It's a horrible lie that incels are bad people for being incels. The reality is incels were nice guys turned into at worst, monsters who commit terror attacks such as the incels who have done such things a few times in recent years.

But mainstream society doesn't want to deal with the incel problem. Their fix is to shame incels for believing in incel ideas such as the idea that a person can be disadvantaged in the competitive dating world.

Mainstream society's view is that anyone who becomes an incel is a bad person for lacking the morality to stay away from beliefs that have negative ideas about women.

It's like religion. You must be pious or else we cast you out. And so society will sweep incels under the rug until the incel population grows so large that they become a real threat to society.

What will happen then? I guess we just have to hope that doesn't happen. But it seems to me like the incel population is ever growing. It's going to be a dangerous future for women.

Telekinetic-Potato · Answer

The issue is you look at it as either an incel or a toxic guy but being toxic is a symptom not a root cause.

Not every guy who gets woman is toxic. Maybe not even most. What separates incels from players is charm. A woman's number one subconscious compass for deciding a man's worth boil down to his ability to use social skills/empathy to charm her.

If charm is the result, social skills/empathy represent the experience/intuition needed to choose the correct weapon for the situation.

I know I'm going a little all over the place here so suffice to say, some people who become adept at being charming develop toxic traits because they've learned to rely on their charm to behave more selfishly.

Woman don't understand charm as a process or maybe it's more accurate to call it a skill. It's why they're such terrible judges of character and often end up making bad decisions with men.

Their personalities are gross because they're unpolished. These people for one reason or another never developed the skill of being charming, but the toxic man usually is very charming even if only in his own way. People are drawn to the strong personality and quickly forget about the pain they've caused because of how plesant/entertaining their personality is.

Flatmanlewis · Answer

This is like asking why people don’t date incels but then date men who commit domestic violence against them. This is not as if there was a option A or option B situation. “I know these are my two choices and I’ll choose this toxic guy over here.”

Women who date abusers, toxic men, or cheaters don’t choose to date them for their toxic traits. They (like many young people) simply find themselves in a bad relationship. Most people go though at least a few breakups in life so this is not uncommon. A self-actualized person learns from bad relationships and eventually settles into a healthier relationship and choices.

Women do not date incels because they, almost always, lack the personality, people skills, and upward social mobility to meet and interact with women. This is usually women that are in high demand by being young, attractive, and outgoing. Since these women have options in life they (like all men & women would do) tend to chose the best of the available options in life. Incels mistakenly believe this is only the young, extraordinarily fit (by their optic) men. Since these incels refuse to look in the mirror & self improve they instead shift the blame to women and the men they imagine these women want.

Truth is women who do date a toxic guy more often than not leave them. They just got the initial opportunity that the incel didn’t because sometimes toxic behavior (what a generalization that term is!) isn’t readily apparent when they start to date. Anger issues, obsessive behavior, domestic violence, alcohol & substance abuse, infidelity, and so on May take time to manifest themselves in a relationship and usually are going to need more than a few dates to be noticed.

Purpleronnie · Answer

In my view incels beleive they are somehow less than comparing themselves with ( in their opinion ) the “most’ desired men focusing on looks , comiing up short in their eyes time and time again reinforces the belief which then perpetuates the ideology.

Toxic men are regarded that way by their ex’s , so unlike incels they don’t “believe” they are less than. The fact that they have had sexual experience with women and are often very sexually active encourages their behaviors reinforcing their own narcissism

So you see there is quite a stark difference here between those two groups. If only both groups understood that their perception is deeply skewed and flawed.

Anonymous · Answer

It's the difference in the way women think vs. The way men think. Many women would rather hear an exciting fiction than a boring truth. You have to console yourself with the FACT that most of these women will go from one toxic relationship to another. And she actually did you a FAVOR by rejecting you.

This is what a lot of incessantly don't get. Rejection from these types of women is actually the BEST case scenario. I know it doesn't feel that way. But the other option is they could date you and tear your life up with her toxicity.

You think you want that. Trust me, you don't!

msmissydc · Answer

Wait isn't the fact that incels exist proof that we, on average do in fact NOT date toxic guys? Yes you will always find exceptions but incels dont realise, that they are most of the time the toxic guys we do not date.

LazerBean · Answer

Toxic people are able to date because they at least know how to act charming for a while. Incels do not.

JHAYES317 · Answer

Because the reality is the incels are repulsive due their height or baldness or d size or whatever and personality is usually just an excuse. Maybe some of them have neurodivergence but that’s not a personality trait that’s a medical condition…

Now some of them are bitter which isn’t an attractive trait but if you went your whole life seeing other men get the girl because they are simply more physically attractive and charismatic, you’d likely get resentful too…

sheikalana · Answer

Some women don't have other options but to date these guys. Some women don't want to be alone because it makes them look bad. Some women don't know anything else other than toxicity. Some women are toxic themselves and addicted to toxicity.

VV3ZZY123 · Answer

Incels kill people and assault people & call themselves incel. They make that decision to commit a crime. A guy who can't get laid (and is a little sad) is not an incel. Do not listen to people who make fun of you and call you incel. It is up to you. Not them. Choosing to wait for a woman who will be kind to you is not being an incel. There are many toxic people out there. They are just bullies.

HelpfulWoman · Answer

so many women don't date toxic guys. thats a minority. plus most toxic guys in that regard mask it until they're in a relationship and such.

WhitneySnow · Answer

Because those toxic guys have superficially charming personalities and the incels don’t. And not all women do that.

normalice · Answer

The reason incels exist is because a lot of women  dont  date toxic guys. Some fall through the cracks, yes. But every toxic guy could have been an incel if he was just a little more timid.

Anonymous · Answer

Women are attracted to the sort of stereotypical male behaviour that rational women call "toxic". Attraction is often irrational. Incels on the other hand, are just unattractive. Period.

genericname85 · Answer

well obviously whatever it is you labeled "toxic" right there is exactly what women want. so you got 2 choices with that realization. 1: keep complaining. 2: adapt.

At3mis24 · Answer

I met Incels on this site and they are all stupid, so it's not a surprise for me.

DrPepper12 · Answer

Because they are angry misogynistic people who love pity parties and scapegoating. Toxic guys might get dates but not LTR

Agape93 · Answer

Because it's true, and people don't make rational choices

DarkLegacy · Answer

It is because they are hypocrites, they usually reject incels for unjust reasons so they say it to justify doing it. And women who go for toxic guys deserve everything they get

FuqUFggt · Answer

Lol. Who cares. Let the dumb whores date toxic guys. It doesn't impact your life. Date trad wives and be happy

jahaims · Answer

Think of incels like bleach and toxic bad boys as cigarettes. We know both are bad but cigarettes at least have some upside despite being toxic.

DextroShade · Answer

The toxic guys are hot and give them the tingles while the incels are ugly and thus automatically creepy.

Anonymous · Answer

There is a big difference between incel aggressive frustration and players.

Rangers · Answer

Cause those people are idiots with no self awareness

Twalli · Answer

Because incels can't hide it as easily as other guys

RagingBοner · Answer

Be the change you want to see in the world. Go fuck all the incels and cum the women's mouths shut.

tomboy2003 · Answer

Incels are misogynists

GuysJustBeGayInsted · Answer

Incels watch porn.

war_daddy · Answer

the toxic guys are hotter. incels are disgusting

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