as a persian guy i can say most of you said is true but not for long. everything is changing around here and each day more men and women are starting to live their lives by western standards.
As a north African who grew up in the Middle East I'm aware of the major culture difference that exist but that doesn't change that they're closer to us in almost everything than we are to other groups of people. Not to mention that the middle itself is quite diverse. Persians, Turks, Assyrians, Arabs, Kurds, Chamis, Khaleejis, etc
Actually same goes for Turks too. We do t share anything common with mid easterners simuch as arabs or persians. We generally dont even identify with mid east
@OghuzTurkishAndProud you actually do share cultural elements with lots of middle Easterns and Balkans due to the Ottoman Empire. Saying otherwise is a reach. Nobody is saying these regions have the same cultures. But they certainly have lots of similarties despite being fairly different. Go ask a German or Dutch what he thinks of Turks and he'll call them middle eastern and racist slurs. Anyways, most maps of the Middle East tend to include turkey. I said Middle East and North Africa, not Arabs. Assyrians, chaldeans, Copts, Berbers, kurds, Persians etc are not Arab either but considered middle eastern. It's a geographic location that goes beyond culture and ethnicity.
Misunderstanding of my nation doesn't change the facts. It doesn't matter what other thinks about us. We Turks dont consider ourselfs as mid easterner and ıts the only think that matters. we dont share anything common with other mid easterner. Even tho mid easterner term is wrong in first place, just because we live in same region doesn't make us same people. Mid east is not like Europe. all europeans have same ancestors but in mid east we all have different roots and we are unrelated with each other. We Turks are altaic people, persians are indo aryan and arab are semitic. We literally have no connection with each other and we are different frome ach other as much as a British and japanase. And I dont wanna offend you but cannot say an average Turk have positive feelings towards other mid easterners such as arabs, persians etc. We generally see mid easterners as culturally backwards. We Turks are secular, modern and liberal people who condemns thinks like polygamy, child marriages, sharia laws and we believe in science and education , we respect woman rights, gay rights, child rights, freedom of religion, freedom of speech etc. we are not like arabs and persians who is obsessed with religion, opress their woman etc.
At the end of the day we Turks are not mid easterner, some ignorant europeans and americans thinks Turks and persians are arab too just because they think we are arab or mid easterner doesn't make us arab or mid easterner Firstly Turkey as a country geogrphically and climately more close to caucasus region and balkans. Turkey is not a desert like rest of mid east. and we Turks are originally from central asia and siberia and our closest relatives are azeris, mongolians, kazakh, krygız, uzbek and turkmens which is central Asian people and we speak turkish which is a altaic language close to mongolian and other central Asian languages.
Also we Turks are racially mixture of central Asian altaic mongoloid people and local anatolians which is greeks and armenians and we dont look like other mid easterner. Only a few Turks has mid easterner roots. majority of us mixed with balkanites (like me) or local white anatolians like greeks and armenians.
Culturally speaking Turk culture is mix of central Asian, balkan and mid east but our differences with mid easterners are more than our similarities. We Turks are more close to central Asians and feel more close to central Asians because we are blood brothers with them. We prefer being called as central Asians or mongols. Please dont say you dont live in central asia, location and race has nothing to do with each other. Calling Turks as mid esterner is like calling white south Africans as black. We Turks came to anantolia in 1071
@OghuzTurkishAndProud Yet the west target you entirely based on the fact "They consider you middle-eastern" even after you followed those guys to the last breath. They still shit on you, cuz TRAITOR is always considered TRAITOR by the Friends and Foe's alike. The science got nothing to do with the banning the Polygamy or gays rights cuz Males are heterosexual by science and woman are sexually mono-sexual. The gays concept is idiotic and mental disorder by the science. The anal sphincter is not supposed to be taking cocks inside like Vagina and actually never recover for the trauma as the proof to the fact its idiotic.
before you even remotely try to post shit... I am MD/MBBS so bear that in mind.
@OghuzTurkishAndProud The Polygammy thing is actually the Christianity believe system it got nothing to do with science infact the man are supposed to be with multiple woman at once. The woman are supposed to marry at the age their sexual organs are active at 16 and according to science, they should be having children at 16 cuz its their most reproductively active age from 16-28 and after that the chances of successful pregnancy starts to fall dramatically with just at 50% of the normal at 38-35..
You are not educated you are tiny pathetic shit that is supposed to follow them to the grave... You are not intelligent enough to think otherwise. The West birth rate is falling like crazy people tend to believe that its good for the world but in-reality they use it to hide their remorse and their government have started the massive immigration program to control the falling birth rates.
I am not Middle-Eastern to begin with but you are speaking the shit about them... East have its share of the problems but the one you mentioned are not imp.
@AlphaGhost Who said that I follow west? Read my post again, we Turks are not western but not mid easterner either. We came from central asia and our closest relatives are mongolians. We Turks consider ourselfs as central Asians. Why should I consider myself as something that I gave nothing to do with. We Turks are not mid easterner and have no job to do with mid east but If we have to choose one. We would choose western world over you every single day because we have more in common with them.
Secondly ıf men naturally supposed to have multiple wives then ok allow your men to get multiple wives but allow your woman to have multiple husband too otherwise ıt would be unequal. This is one of the reason why we Turks find you backwards. We Turks believe in gender equality, we dont see woman as second class people like you. Woman and Men is equal in our society. If woman dont allowed to have multiple husbands then men shouldn't be allowed to marry with multiple wives. If men allowed to have multiple viwes then your woman should allowed to have multiple husbands too. This is equality.
Also we dont admire western lifestyle because we want to be western. We admire western lifestyle because this is the right way to live. If you want to be a backwards savage then you can be a backwards savage in your own country I dont care but dont try to drag us Turks into your backwards woman , child and gay oppressing , sharia shithole.
@AlphaGhost It doesn't matter ıf being gay is mental disorder or not. As long as they dont harm anybody other than thimself people should have right to do whatever they want. We Turks believe in freedom. You can be a gay in Turkey I dont care as long as you dont gave any harm to other people.
@OghuzTurkishAndProud The woman can't have multiple partner cuz She is gona end up being pregnant by one and then there will be huge debate about the father of the kid and Female just have 1 ovum while man can produce multiple sperms to fertilize multiple woman. Its just simple opinion of being educated enough to understand the simple biology which of-course you have absolutely no idea about. Woman can't have the multiple partners due to their anatomical limits and 2) The woman psychology only allows them to be loyal to 1 partner and its woman nature to be with single person. Western life style is better lol, 1) Western countries have the highest rape rate in the world. 2) Highest crime rate in the entire world. 3) They treat woman like trash fuck them form the age of 15 in really really bad manner up-till the age of the 33+ and when She lose all her glamour and beauty they literally dump her like the common trash and start hunting for the 20+ chicks. 4) due to the all fuck over system the woman are prone to the craziest form of the sexual offences possible on planet earth like the US has 77,000+ rapes/year with 1 in 6 woman facing this issue.
You are defending their system like crazy without realizing that EU Dumped the Turkey for the membership and NOBODY in entire world consider western system to be anything apart form self proclaimed glory.
My experience in meeting middle easterners is that they smell really bad of B. O. Every single one of them. The men try to hide it by bathing in cheap cologne.
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You can't lump in all of MENA under these common qualities. The MENA region (which is a fake made-up "region") is filled with diverse peoples.
The whole region is fucked and if it's not completely fucked, it's oppressed. Name one country from the area which doesn't fit into one of those categories.
Is Turkey considered as mid easterner too? We dont share anything common with those. People. We are not arabs we are secular and modern. But I agree mid east is a shithole except Turkey we are the only secular and modern country in mid east. Rest is just war torn backwards countries filled with religious bigots.
But we ethnic Turks dont support him. We Turks only make %60 of population in Turkey. Erdogan mostly gets votes from non turks here. Turks who vote erdogan is rare. Even tho erdogan is not a Turk himself but actually a laz (muslim georgian). We consider erdogan as a traitor. He is selling our country to arabs.
Erdogan mostly get votes from religious kurds, lazeki people, pomaks , small minority of religious turks and arab minoroties in hatay etc. And also that syrian refugees were not helping us too either with their support towards erdogan.
@OghuzTurkishAndProud it's getting too far removed from the days if Ataturk for my liking. Some aspects of sharia law are now creeping in. I like turkey. Actually my best friend is Turkey and I hate this Erdogan a lot.
Turkey is still secular, if somebody tries to remove secualrism and impose us sharia. We Turks would fight against islamist. We are not like arabs and persians. I hate erdogan too, he is a traitor for turkishness.
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as a persian guy i can say most of you said is true but not for long. everything is changing around here and each day more men and women are starting to live their lives by western standards.
Nice mytake. I have been to the ME a few times for work, but it is nice to get some perspective from someone who grew up in the culture.
Especially a cutie like you.
The middle eastern/North African women are very attractive in these pictures. The same cannot be said for the men though.
As a Kurdish I love it
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Welcome and Algeria clothes similar old traditions ottoman clothes
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I swear middle eastern women are just gorgeous 🤤🤤
Very interesting to say the least
Thank you :))
Nice mytake
but you include Turks? You have no idea about Turks then. Most of this don fit at all
This could have been summed up with one sentence.
"The men of that entire area of the world are controlling and abusive."
Notice how the women agree and the men refuse to admit to it.
I think it depends on the men and the areas :P
Im lacking a job and still am gonna get married soon! 😃
Cool Take. Pakistani men are also mostly like that!
Ew can you not put we North Africans in the same category as middle easterners?
Us north Africans share a lot of common aspects with the Middle East...
Just only Islam and forced arabization.
As a north African who grew up in the Middle East I'm aware of the major culture difference that exist but that doesn't change that they're closer to us in almost everything than we are to other groups of people.
Not to mention that the middle itself is quite diverse. Persians, Turks, Assyrians, Arabs, Kurds, Chamis, Khaleejis, etc
Actually same goes for Turks too.
We do t share anything common with mid easterners simuch as arabs or persians. We generally dont even identify with mid east
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@OghuzTurkishAndProud you actually do share cultural elements with lots of middle Easterns and Balkans due to the Ottoman Empire.
Saying otherwise is a reach. Nobody is saying these regions have the same cultures. But they certainly have lots of similarties despite being fairly different.
Go ask a German or Dutch what he thinks of Turks and he'll call them middle eastern and racist slurs.
Anyways, most maps of the Middle East tend to include turkey.
I said Middle East and North Africa, not Arabs.
Assyrians, chaldeans, Copts, Berbers, kurds, Persians etc are not Arab either but considered middle eastern. It's a geographic location that goes beyond culture and ethnicity.
Misunderstanding of my nation doesn't change the facts. It doesn't matter what other thinks about us. We Turks dont consider ourselfs as mid easterner and ıts the only think that matters. we dont share anything common with other mid easterner.
Even tho mid easterner term is wrong in first place, just because we live in same region doesn't make us same people. Mid east is not like Europe. all europeans have same ancestors but in mid east we all have different roots and we are unrelated with each other.
We Turks are altaic people, persians are indo aryan and arab are semitic.
We literally have no connection with each other and we are different frome ach other as much as a British and japanase.
And I dont wanna offend you but cannot say an average Turk have positive feelings towards other mid easterners such as arabs, persians etc. We generally see mid easterners as culturally backwards. We Turks are secular, modern and liberal people who condemns thinks like polygamy, child marriages, sharia laws and we believe in science and education , we respect woman rights, gay rights, child rights, freedom of religion, freedom of speech etc.
we are not like arabs and persians who is obsessed with religion, opress their woman etc.
At the end of the day we Turks are not mid easterner, some ignorant europeans and americans thinks Turks and persians are arab too just because they think we are arab or mid easterner doesn't make us arab or mid easterner
Firstly Turkey as a country geogrphically and climately more close to caucasus region and balkans. Turkey is not a desert like rest of mid east.
and we Turks are originally from central asia and siberia and our closest relatives are azeris, mongolians, kazakh, krygız, uzbek and turkmens which is central Asian people and we speak turkish which is a altaic language close to mongolian and other central Asian languages.
Also we Turks are racially mixture of central Asian altaic mongoloid people and local anatolians which is greeks and armenians and we dont look like other mid easterner.
Only a few Turks has mid easterner roots. majority of us mixed with balkanites (like me) or local white anatolians like greeks and armenians.
Culturally speaking Turk culture is mix of central Asian, balkan and mid east but our differences with mid easterners are more than our similarities. We Turks are more close to central Asians and feel more close to central Asians because we are blood brothers with them.
We prefer being called as central Asians or mongols.
Please dont say you dont live in central asia, location and race has nothing to do with each other. Calling Turks as mid esterner is like calling white south Africans as black.
We Turks came to anantolia in 1071
@OghuzTurkishAndProud Yet the west target you entirely based on the fact "They consider you middle-eastern" even after you followed those guys to the last breath. They still shit on you,
cuz TRAITOR is always considered TRAITOR by the Friends and Foe's alike.
The science got nothing to do with the banning the Polygamy or gays rights cuz Males are heterosexual by science and woman are sexually mono-sexual. The gays concept is idiotic and mental disorder by the science. The anal sphincter is not supposed to be taking cocks inside like Vagina and actually never recover for the trauma as the proof to the fact its idiotic.
before you even remotely try to post shit... I am MD/MBBS so bear that in mind.
@OghuzTurkishAndProud The Polygammy thing is actually the Christianity believe system it got nothing to do with science infact the man are supposed to be with multiple woman at once.
The woman are supposed to marry at the age their sexual organs are active at 16 and according to science, they should be having children at 16 cuz its their most reproductively active age from 16-28 and after that the chances of successful pregnancy starts to fall dramatically with just at 50% of the normal at 38-35..
You are not educated you are tiny pathetic shit that is supposed to follow them to the grave... You are not intelligent enough to think otherwise.
The West birth rate is falling like crazy people tend to believe that its good for the world but in-reality they use it to hide their remorse and their government have started the massive immigration program to control the falling birth rates.
I am not Middle-Eastern to begin with but you are speaking the shit about them... East have its share of the problems but the one you mentioned are not imp.
@AlphaGhost
Who said that I follow west?
Read my post again, we Turks are not western but not mid easterner either.
We came from central asia and our closest relatives are mongolians.
We Turks consider ourselfs as central Asians.
Why should I consider myself as something that I gave nothing to do with. We Turks are not mid easterner and have no job to do with mid east but If we have to choose one. We would choose western world over you every single day because we have more in common with them.
Secondly ıf men naturally supposed to have multiple wives then ok allow your men to get multiple wives but allow your woman to have multiple husband too otherwise ıt would be unequal. This is one of the reason why we Turks find you backwards. We Turks believe in gender equality, we dont see woman as second class people like you. Woman and Men is equal in our society. If woman dont allowed to have multiple husbands then men shouldn't be allowed to marry with multiple wives. If men allowed to have multiple viwes then your woman should allowed to have multiple husbands too.
This is equality.
Also we dont admire western lifestyle because we want to be western. We admire western lifestyle because this is the right way to live.
If you want to be a backwards savage then you can be a backwards savage in your own country I dont care but dont try to drag us Turks into your backwards woman , child and gay oppressing , sharia shithole.
@AlphaGhost
It doesn't matter ıf being gay is mental disorder or not. As long as they dont harm anybody other than thimself people should have right to do whatever they want.
We Turks believe in freedom. You can be a gay in Turkey I dont care as long as you dont gave any harm to other people.
Lol , ew i don't wanna be put with you anon in one category coz you are disgusting?
@OghuzTurkishAndProud The woman can't have multiple partner cuz She is gona end up being pregnant by one and then there will be huge debate about the father of the kid and Female just have 1 ovum while man can produce multiple sperms to fertilize multiple woman.
Its just simple opinion of being educated enough to understand the simple biology which of-course you have absolutely no idea about.
Woman can't have the multiple partners due to their anatomical limits and
2) The woman psychology only allows them to be loyal to 1 partner and its woman nature to be with single person.
Western life style is better lol,
1) Western countries have the highest rape rate in the world.
2) Highest crime rate in the entire world.
3) They treat woman like trash fuck them form the age of 15 in really really bad manner up-till the age of the 33+ and when She lose all her glamour and beauty they literally dump her like the common trash and start hunting for the 20+ chicks.
4) due to the all fuck over system the woman are prone to the craziest form of the sexual offences possible on planet earth like the US has 77,000+ rapes/year with 1 in 6 woman facing this issue.
You are defending their system like crazy without realizing that EU Dumped the Turkey for the membership and NOBODY in entire world consider western system to be anything apart form self proclaimed glory.
@OghuzTurkishAndProud You are defending the system that allows Rapist to roam free after 7 years in prison... and make the woman sex tool.
My experience in meeting middle easterners is that they smell really bad of B. O. Every single one of them. The men try to hide it by bathing in cheap cologne.
You can't lump in all of MENA under these common qualities. The MENA region (which is a fake made-up "region") is filled with diverse peoples.
Nice take but some of them dont fit us to Turks
Its exactly the way we live here
This was a great read. 💖💗
Indian society is very similar too.
The middle east and north Africa is a shit hole.
I bet you can't say it without hiding your identity
Typical coward
@Mailo the middle east and north Africa is a shithole.
Guru saying this, wow you're such a role model xD
@Syrian_survivor it's true though
The whole region is fucked and if it's not completely fucked, it's oppressed.
Name one country from the area which doesn't fit into one of those categories.
Define the term shit hole please
@Mailo you know what it means
Is Turkey considered as mid easterner too?
We dont share anything common with those. People. We are not arabs we are secular and modern.
But I agree mid east is a shithole except Turkey we are the only secular and modern country in mid east. Rest is just war torn backwards countries filled with religious bigots.
@OghuzTurkishAndProud turkey still has a pretty out there leader.
@OghuzTurkishAndProud it is leaning towards an Islamic nation now.
But we ethnic Turks dont support him.
We Turks only make %60 of population in Turkey. Erdogan mostly gets votes from non turks here. Turks who vote erdogan is rare.
Even tho erdogan is not a Turk himself but actually a laz (muslim georgian).
We consider erdogan as a traitor.
He is selling our country to arabs.
Erdogan mostly get votes from religious kurds, lazeki people, pomaks , small minority of religious turks and arab minoroties in hatay etc. And also that syrian refugees were not helping us too either with their support towards erdogan.
@OghuzTurkishAndProud it's getting too far removed from the days if Ataturk for my liking. Some aspects of sharia law are now creeping in.
I like turkey. Actually my best friend is Turkey and I hate this Erdogan a lot.
@OfDeath I agree that SOME of it is a shithole, but the wording is vulgar to be taken seriously xD
My country is definitely a shithole
Turkey is still secular, if somebody tries to remove secualrism and impose us sharia. We Turks would fight against islamist.
We are not like arabs and persians.
I hate erdogan too, he is a traitor for turkishness.
This was cool to read
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