
What’s a quote you agree/disagree with?


"Freedom of speech does not protect you from the consequences of saying stupid shit".
First of all, I don't inherently disagree. You could insult someone right now and they could kill you because they are high on bath salts. Just be nice, it helps. Lol. I also think a lot of people have boundaries where some degree of backlash for saying stupid shit (like racial slurs) is considered acceptable.
But I have a few issues with the implications of this sentence, mainly in how the words can be twisted to suit more sinister agendas.
To start - I don't believe freedom of speech actually exists, as the "yell fire in a crowded theater" illustrates. I am also not swayed by the "it's an exception - it's for safety reasons" argument as this can be expanded to include all kinds of subjective examples. All you have to do is use the right propaganda and you can have people believing all kinds of things are "unsafe" - there is a point where "Freedom of Speech" stops being an ideal with clear definitions and becomes a belief, worthy of the Ministry of Love in 1984 or any religion.
That's a problem right there. I fear that some people (regardless of left or right, this is NOT about that) are so tied up in their "free world" "democracy" identity, that they have forgotten what the words really mean. Even before COVID, a disturbing number of people glided around believing in the absolute nature of their ideologies.
Additionally, even though such quotes are used to highlight anger at the use of the "n" word (for example), they are often extrapolated and used to condone a myriad of other reactions as well. It's easy to start with a case that resonates emotionally with the public to make a case for censorship or repercussions. But it is a slippery slope between fully acceptable defenses against racial slurs and other unpopular opinions. Once you have your foot in that door, you have to realize where you are heading. It worries me because the lines are always blurred and manipulated to go further down that slippery slope. This quote went from a statement in a seemingly harmless blog to a line of defense for just about anyone who wants to hate on people who don't agree. Talk about responsibility for what you say. Lol.
I'd also like to remind people that being canceled from life due to what you say is truly not unlike being imprisoned. So there is that too.
Humanity really worries me sometimes.
Technically, the only thing that are changing are the consequences. You are still free to say whatever you want. I understand your fear of contemporary beliefs of what it and isn't socially acceptable.
Technically yes. You are correct, it’s just the consequences. You are also free to kill people.
Yeah. I am pretty afraid sometimes. I try not to think about it.
Yes, that's why we have things like Freud's idea of Id, Ego and Super Ego.
It's why we have fairy tales that if looked at more carefully are actually quite horrific.
It's why we have religions.
Their secondary existence is teach us morality, or what a certain cultures interpretation of morality is. If you discard human history, all the cultures, knowledge, religions, and are left with nature alone, or Id if I can refer to Freud again, you experience true freedom, with it's savageness, cruelness.
We, as humans, as animals, beings, we are free to do whatever we want. It's our morality, our culture, our parents, the things that have been taught to us. That is what voice that says no, our inner censor, our Super Ego.
Yeah I guess living with value systems of any kind can be rough if you start noticing a twist in the fairytale. It’s like the program is running and starts learning a new algorithm but you weren’t given the update and your Id isn’t partaking in the new morality. It suddenly becomes alien to you and you can’t relish in its new direction because you feel there is a threat. Lol. Some people say this is change resistance, but I don’t think it’s quite that simple. Not all change is good? I guess people are bound to clash with current moral structures in some way. This is my current struggle with it.
Apologies, I’m a nutter today.
Joe Rogan actually said an extremely insightful quote that I would like to share; "The time you spend hating on someone robs you of your own time. You are literally hating on yourself and you don't even realize it."
Oh, there are many I disagree with. Then there are the ones I don't fully disagree with, I think they're incomplete. But here's one I fully agree with:
"What is, in other words, conflict at one level of magnification is harmony at a higher level. Life is a pattern of immense complexity. Each one of us is the delightfully complex undulation of the whole universe."
- Alan Watts
The pain I have now is the happiness I had before
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"Just be yourself."
Yeah, because what woman in human history has ever fallen for a man 100% as he is? Maybe a few, but certainly none in the past hundred years.
"You either stand for something or fall for anything."
No. Sometimes you just don't give a f*ck and don't want to jump into someone else's argument (s).
"Either change what you can or accept what you can't change."
Tell that to anyone who lost their loved ones due to a drunk driver or murderer. Or to anyone who suffered a life-ruining accident. It irks me the most because I WOULD correct my height if I could, but I can't accept being genetically worthless and having a meaningless existence with no love or social respect in my future either, so I'm kinda stuck between hopelessness and something else.
“Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.” --C. S. Lewis
"Never say never."
I will can say never to the things I know I can control. For example falling in love, I believe I have control of that part of my emotions.
However I will not say never to things I have no control over. For example sickness, disease and life. You can be healthy all your life; eating right, being faithful and exercising. Then boom! You get covid. you're dead. You tide your tubes and still get pregnant. Or you're like 90 and get pregnant those crap ain't impossible it happens 😩.
Can't think of my own off the top of my head right now. But regarding the picture, I think Charlie and Snoopy are both wrong. Yeah we live everyday, but I think we "die" multiple times throughout our lives before the "big one". Every time we go through something traumatic or are forced to learn a hard lesson, or just go through the experiences of life in general, we change and the "old version" of ourselves basically die. None of us are who we were 5, 10, etc. years ago.
The song "Dead and Gone" by T. I. comes to mind lol
Or Taylor Swift in "Look What You Made Me Do" saying "the old Taylor can't come to the phone right now... why? 'Cuz she's dead" 😂
"Live everyday, like it's your last"
"Take chances and take risks, or go through life saying, what if?"
"You don't know the true meaning of something, until it's gone."
I agree on all.
I disagree with the quote, "Nothing is impossible" because yes many things are impossible. Logically it is incorrect. But yes I do believe in logical quotes.
‘What goes around, comes around’- if that was the case so many crooks would have karma come back to them but most seem to be doing fine
Agreed
Neither are correct. We don't live every day, there's not a reset every 24 hours, life is constant. We are always dying, our cells die in their thousands every day
The older I get, the wiser I become, the more I understand.
I disagree with: “What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger”.
I think it’s the opposite.
1 No one is Virgin on earth! The world fucks us all in different ways.
2 The worly life we live in is just a journey.
And I I agree to them all.
Commit to making the decision that you think you would regret the least.
Truth is like a dead skunk in the middle of the street. You can walk away from it but it still stinks.
I was in a dilemma. I think they're both right. I agree 50-50 with both.
It'll be fun they said!
It usually isn't. 😕
"what doesn't kill you makes you stronger". nope. what doesn't kill you, fucks you up and breaks you.
What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger.
"I did not have sexual relations with that woman" - Bill Clinton.
I disagree.
Yeah that’s a good one and so is
Life is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you are going to get
Do a job you love, you’ll never work a day in your life. Complete bullshit.
I agree with the dog.
we go meet the king Christ after death to be judged
Distinction without a difference
I can't argue with Snoopy!
I disagree with “their in a better place”
I agree with Einstein's quotes.
Snoop Dogg's keepin it real.
No good deed goes unpunished.
Where there is people there is problems
The dog
That’s a good quote
Black Lives Matter
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