My parents won't let me be Muslim, any ideas on how I can change their mind?

[Anonymous]

There's this Arab guy at my school who I have a HUGE crush on and he says that he has a crush on me too but I have to convert to Islam before he can court me. I've talked to my parents about it and they completely shot me down. The funny thing about it is, ALL of the people that my parents idolize are/were Muslim. Malcolm X, Farrakhan, Elijah Muhammad, Muhammad Ali, Khalid Abdul Muhammad, etc... These were/are all black Muslim men who my parents think were the greatest things to ever happen upon the African-American community but they won't let me be Muslim like them and I REALLY want this guy to take me seriously.

[Shyboy265]

It sounds like this Muslim dude will only like you if you convert to islam, but in the meantime, he isn't and never will be, attracted to you since you aren't Muslim. Also, don't even bother joining a religion like Islam. Islam is nothing but a violent and sexist religion with the most hilariously, dumb rules every Muslim has to follow, which includes you. Islam says that its perfectly ok for your boyfriend to have more than one girlfriend (which includes marriage as well) so if you happen to see him with another girl, keep in mind that its his "prophet" who gave the thumbs up. Islam also says that its prohibited drinking even a little alcohol or even do the fun shit kids do nowadays. Mohammad (who is the so called prophet of islam) married a 9 yr old girl named Aisha, which Muslims flat out try to defend. If you want to date him, why not tell him to convert to your religion? Why does it have to be you to leave your religion over another? Like I said, it seems he'll only truly be attracted you if you were Muslim. It isn't worth having to date some Arab because he's "hot" just so he can be satisfied. If you want to leave your religion and convert to islam, no one stopping you, but just remember that you will have to sacrifice and abandon things in your life, just so you can be with him.

[NineBreaker]

First of all, no one can truly prevent you from following a religion or system of beliefs.

Second if all, if you want to convert because you're personally convinced that Islam is the truth for you, then by all means go for it. However, you should not convert to be with someone else. That defeats the propose of following any spiritual path. Converting to a a different religion or leaving a religion is a critical life change that you shouldn't take lightly, because it seems that you might be doing just that.

[DairyCow]

If you do, you won't be a proper Muslim anyway. You're not meant to convert for anyone but God. He's going to expect that you learn all prayers and do them 5 times a day. You'll change how you dress and you won't be able to have any male friends. You can't just say you're a Muslim for this guy to like you, because you'll have to live halal.
Seriously, I'm married to a Muslim. If anyone knows how difficult this situation is, it's me. if he's a serious Muslim, he'll take you to his parents and they'll either not accept you or suggest you marry because they won't want their son sinning by being around a female out of wedlock.
You know what they say in Islam? When a boy and girl is together, Satan is always the third person in the room.

[btbc92]

Listen to your parents, you do NOT want to get yourself involved in that. You will have to submit to everything he tells you. Are you prepared for that? Right now you are young, not 18, not out of your parent's house. So you cannot make that decision. Your parents told you no to this boy, so the answer is a no. Besides, don't think he'll wait until marriage to have sex either. Some of them are nonpracticing but hold the title. You do not convert into that. Or anything for anybody. NEVER. It should be your choice. But this is a no-no. I don't even agree with that practice. But I cannot tell you otherwise except what I have already told you.

[MissLogical]

You're stupid if you want to convert to a religion just so you can date some dumb high school guy. You're relationship wouldn't last anyway. Plus, you shouldn't convert religions because some guy said that he'd "court you" if you did, you should only convert if the religion aligns with your beliefs. Listen to your parents Jfc.

[curiousnorway]

The fact that your parents are trying to protect you may be a sign that they loves you and cares about you. They don't want you to take a so quick decision. If that guy really loved and cared about you, he would think you're fine how you're and not trying to change you. If you convert just to please him, he gets what he want, meaning that he changed you and can use you. Maybe he just want you, so he can use you and show you to his friends. This can be a sign he's not interested in you as a person, but more as a show off object.

Another reason your parents tries to be protective is because they think you should do more research and they don't want you to convert to a religion that may not fit your or their views. It's not uncommon among Muslims to have conservative views like their views on women's rights for instance. Some Muslims, but also Jews and Christians genuinely believes the woman's job is to make a family and be married to a man, but men can get education, jobs and have more freedom. Some treats guys better than girls and is very sexist. Some even support wife violence and that women shouldn't be allowed voting.

I do however understand that it may be tempting. I've seen many good looking people from both genders coming from the Middle-east. Arabs and Persians have nice dark features. In addition they may appear a bit exotic, and especially in the Western world.

I do support your parents and I'm agreeing with Sawno.

[eziegler81]

All the people you named happened to be Muslim, they weren't known because they were Muslim. They were know for their great acts and accomplishments.

You should be or convert to whatever religion you believe in. Don't pick up a religion for a guy especially just for dating. If you knew you wanted to marry him and that required you to convert, then I say go for it. Do your research though. In most Islamic and Muslim cultures, women are regarded as lower grade of human beings.

Another thing to think about is, if he really wanted to be with you, why not abandon his religion or convert to yours? It just really sounds one sided.

[Catdragon513]

If you have to change for him, then don't date him. Religion is a serious thing to a lot of people and you're young. Your parents are not stopping you because they don't like the religion, it's because you're a kid looking to make a serious commitment based on a person who is asking you to change for him. My recommendation is to tell him that he can either like you for who you are, or he doesn't get to date you.

[DJB72]

The real issue is in your question: he says you have to convert to Islam before he can court you.

Why?

Why should you have to be the one to convert?

I am a Christian and I determined I would have to marry a Christian - but I also determined I would not want my wife to become a Christian simply so that I would marry her. There's no sincerity in such a "conversion".

My closest friend right now was raised Muslim. Our friendship has become very deep and she asked me to take her to church, which I did. I moved away a few months ago and she has continued to go from time to time. My only concern was that she was interested in Christianity only because of our friendship at first. Now, however, her interest has shown to be in pursuit of a deeper Truth - which is what it needs to be.

Faith is not something that can be forced onto someone. Don't convert for the sake of a boy. If and when the relationship sours it will affect your view of the beliefs as well.

[RegularTK421]

You're parents are right. You are converting to a religion and a way of life not out of a sincere desire to adhere to the faith, but because you like a boy. You haven't even graduated high school yet, but you think you are going to make a major life decision and conform to a religion you know nothing about? Also, fyi, Elijah Muhammed wasn't a real Muslim, he founded hislam, and was a false prophet. Malcom X didn't start out as a real Muslim, but became one towards the end. Muhammed Ali, not really sure about, but he converted mostly because he felt Christianity was the "white man's religion", so he adopted an Arab one instead. Lol irony at it's finest. Christianity originated in the middle east, but that's another topic for another day.

[TripleAce]

If he requires you to be muslim to date - that's already starting on the wrong foot

Your parents are right. Converting for him is wrong
Besides. Muslim men are allowed to marry christians, jews and muslims

You shouldn't have an issue

[JustAnotherGirlie]

First of all, I'm not trying to be rude, but WHAT THE HELL. I would not recommend joining a religion for a guy, which is what it sounds like. Please tell me you aren't thinking about becoming a Muslim to get the attention of a man - that's a terrible idea and your parents are right. As you get older, you will become more acutely aware of your parents' views... you gotta accept it and move on. There's no changing how they feel

[that1guy_123]

They're saying no because you're motive is to date a guy, not because you spiritually fit that religion. I don't become Buddhist just to date Asian girls or christian to date european girls. You're religious beliefs should develop independently from whom you're looking to date.

[hellionthesagereborn]

Well the fact that your trying to "convert" for the entirely wrong reason doesn't help. If he likes you he can date you, their is nothing in Islam that forbids a muslim man from dating/marrying a woman who is not muslim as long as they are from one of the monotheistic faiths i. e. jewish or Christian. So that shouldn't even be an issue to begin with. Second, your converting because you have a crush not because you believe in Islam so its not a real conversion. Move on.

[sawno]

I do side with your parents on this one, because you are trying to convert for the wrong reasons. He should love you the way you are even if you are not a muslim, and you should only convert if the religion fits your views.
Keep in mind that this kind of islamic behavior is often also against womens rights so do some research before you make your next step.

[Jaye234]

How old are you? Your parents have a good reason for not allowing you to convert- their reason which children do not have to agree, accept or like that reason.
A crush isn't a valid reason for converting to another religion.

[Anonymous]

Sure if you want to join a religion of psychos. If you want your boyfriend to abuse you and only be able to wear those hijabs. If you want to one day be murdered in the name of Allah. Islam is horrible and does not belong in America. Shariah Law is the Devil's bible. Don't convert to a hateful religion.

[Humpy]

May Allah forgive you

[JJBullfrog]

Humpy, Allah doesn't forgive because he's not real.

[Humpy]

Hahaha who made you and your family? Oh I think you just dropped from the sky

[ChancellorCharemagne]

"There's this Arab guy at my school who I have a HUGE crush on and he says that he has a crush on me"

No one fucking cares about how huugggeeee your crush on is, converting for a guy you haven't dated yet is truly idiotic. Get your head out of his ass and listen to your parents kid.

[Eugene]

>> My parents won't let me be Muslim, any ideas on how I can change their mind?

You have wonderful parents that truly care about you.
You don't have to change their mind, you have to snap back and change yours.

[TacosRAwesome]

They have a point. You're not even dating the guy and he's asking you to convert. If he's asking you at the point when the relationship is more stable (you're engaged or close to) and things like that, then he has the right to. But for now he doesn't.

[DonkeyRick69]

Isn't there a difference between Islam and the nation of islam?
Your parents are right and converting to a religion just for a boy is foolish. Maybe investigate Islam first to see if it's for you, there's no rush as the guy will neither court until you convert to Islam or have sex with you until you are married.

[DonkeyRick69]

The Nation of Islam, abbreviated as NOI, is an African American political and religious movement, founded in Detroit, Michigan, United States, by Wallace D. Fard Muhammad on July 4, 1930. Its stated goals are to improve the spiritual, mental, social, and economic condition of African Americans in the United States and all of humanity. Critics have described the organization as being black supremacist and antisemitic. The Southern Poverty Law Center tracks the NOI as a hate group. Its official newspaper is The Final Call. In 2007, the core membership was estimated to be between 20,000 and 50,000.

[DonkeyRick69]

On March 7, 1998 the Board of Ulema of the Italian Muslim Association (AMI) issued a fatwa against the Nation of Islam. The AMI issued the fatwa after being asked their opinion on the NOI; it was the AMI's opinion that members of the NOI were not Muslim, on the grounds that "their official doctrine is that Allah appeared in the form of a human being named Fareed Muhammad, and that this "incarnation of God" chose another man, called Elijah Muhammad, as his Prophet." In the AMI's view, this contradicts the core Muslim tenet of monotheism, and as such members of the NOI could not be considered Muslim; "Muslims must declare this truth, and each one of them who keeps silent while listening to Mr. Farrakhan being called "a Muslim leader" is committing a sin."

[TXKen]

Do not convert for a guy. No guy should expect you to convert just to be taken seriously. The Muslim religion is probably way different than the way you grew up. B I'll labor passing judgement on the way they treat women in Muslim countries. You can research that yourself.

[Anonymous]

problem is that guy is crush!..
and once your crush or love ends
you won't want to be Muslim
and there is no coming back from ISLAM

They would rather kill you then let you convert to another religion. '

Your parents understand this that is why they are not agreeing to it!..
because you are literally asking them permission to die in an public Execution!..
and i can promise you your crush will be the one severing that pretty little head of yours from your shoulders..

[JJBullfrog]

Don't change your religion for anyone. It should only be in your heart to change. And with that, become a Christian, because God became a human to die for everyone's sins. Don't you think you should love the God that loved you first? Allah is a hateful god (noticed how I used a lowercase g, he's not real). Have you ever heard of suicide bomber Christians? That's because we don't force people to love Jesus.

[TheChatWanderer]

And jesus is more real than allah? I highly doubt that my friend.

[fred256]

Hello friend
I think you have to look at it from both ends. You gat to respect your parents decision they are your parents sorry if you cannot come to an agreement with but keep on trying maybe one time they will agree... But in case they don't agree leave it at that you will get someone of your kind oneday