Thoughts about atheism?

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[Guy13]

I know this is much for short attention spans (8 seconds) per Tracking firms. Below are all Secular and Philosophical Solutions.

Ultimately, Why is one an Atheist❓
-anything to avoid an Absolute as one has to follow the Absolute’s tenets absolutely. Like Mao II, Brezhnev II, Trudeau, Polpot, Hitler, Chavez, Stalin, Soros etc.

Created Absolutes, Spiritually, Socially, and Scientifically, exists but are Designed by Creator. Absolutes are…

Atheists by definition “deny the existence of a Creator, God”. And in that denial confirms that God exists. One can not deny something they don’t acknowledge exists. Even ☝️ of your Big 🧠(Dawkins, I think), in debate with an English Theologian, got stumped and responded “Oh my God”. Search
God 1 Atheism 0 was media take.

Proof (s) ☝️ via Morality for Existence of God:
Will you acknowledge:
1. we exist and the world has an intricate intelligent design❓
2. there is Morality as evidenced by our individual ability to assess good and bad. And our ability to delineate between Good/Bad which allows us the ability to make Laws and Judges based upon Morality Absolute, itself❓We each posses an ability to judge and create our own Morality within an Intelligently Design Morality. We posses Choice (not impulses neurons single celled accidentally made into Intelligent Form-ANOTHER TIME please)
3. Morality has no Being yet is qualitatively (oh…that’s wrong) and quantifiably
(murder stats) measurable. Given this there must be both a Designer and entitled Judge as Morality does not self-create or self-start. It’s an engrained knowing Designed as Conscious underpinned by our intricately and intelligently designed
🧠.
Can’t get into why Science is not God and Why and How therein. This is more than enough. Hopefully 🙏, they will allow me to post a separate Proofs demonstrating that Evolution and Origin of Species

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

For it to be denial, you need to deep down know you are wrong. Or to be given proof that you are wrong.
Atheists deep down don't believe in a magician in the clouds. And no one has evidences of it's existence.

[Guy13]

That makes no sense. Plus it’s opinion.
—Can’t you get the fact that if you consider Atheism to be then you acknowledge God Is. There would be no need for an atheist or Atheism if there was no God…an atheist would not know what to not believe.
—Even Dawkins, “Oh my God” knows there had to be a Creator of this complex Intelligent Design.
You did not have a retort to my proofs which demonstrates how we got here or Morality as Intelligently Designed, thereby, conceding I am indeed accurate.
—If you are an atheist, at the very least, you should be able to explain how man got here in an organized and coherent argument.
—Frankly, you live in a Wish state where everything you want to believe you Wish it into a truth.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

-How does this "Atheism to be then you acknowledge God Is." makes sense? How does me not believing in a mythical entity proves it exists? I also don't believe in Zeus. Does that proves he exists as well?
- Complex design? There are tons of flaws in that design. What idiot designed the tube you breathe to be the same you use to eat? That give us vestigial structures?
- Note that I, as not an evolutionary biologist, don't have to know everything about evolution. But feel free to ask anything. I am sure it's nothing a quick Google search can't tell. You know since evolution is factually proven.
- This is projecting of the highest degree. Everything that I believe in it's a proven fact. It's not that I believe or have faith. It is proven.

[Guy13]

I’m sorry you can not reason. You rant like a child. State ALL YOUR FACTS instead of telling me you have them‼️ Facts that underpin your viewpoint.
SHOW ME…in your own words rather than Google…The fact that you require a quick Google search or someone else’s video for opinion says it all…just saying… You are simply blowing smoke. THIS IS NOT DIFFICULT…

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

Judging by your words at the end I am not the one ranting.
I answer every one if your points. Now what you want? Do you want me to describe to you how evolution works? What exactly are you asking for? No really say it and I will answer.
And since you are asking for facts I will ask for some too. Give me evidences of God.

[Guy13]

“Go google” me an argument on how your religion atheism explains the existence of man. And how can there be Morality from the perspective of your religion and god-Atheism…
How do we know right verse wrong. BESIDES some simple opinion or someone else’s video.
-And I’m sorry that you can’t grasp that if you acknowledge something Is Not that at the same time you acknowledge God Is.. My 7th graders understand it🤷🏻‍♂️

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

Atheism is not a religion. Is exactly the absence of one. And atheism doesn't prove how men came to be. Science does. Atheists chose the factual science over the faith based God.
Now about who we were created. By abiogenesis. Basically a process that non living matter can turn into proteins by chemical processes. One of the prove, aka facts, for this is that we found amino acids in meteorites in space. After that the organisms become more and more complex by the mechanisms that drive evolution like natural selection, genetic drift and mutations. Give good conditions, thousands of years and here we are.
How do I know this? Aron Ra and Forrest Valkai are two YouTubers that I follow that disprove creationism.

You don't need God to know right from wrong. In fact if you follow God looking at the Bible and at history you are more likely to do wrong. From abortions to prove your wives loyalty to infant killing the bible has it all.
No one needs God to know right from wrong. I know it and I don't believe in God.

False. Completely 100% false. Let's say we have something science can't explain yet. I can say it was Santa Claus. Or Buddha. Of a ghost. It has the same value as saying it was God. Why? Because you have no proof. You need to provide proof for your claim. And to say "you don't know why this happens so it must be magic" is irrational. Literally stone age level of thinking.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

youtube.com/playlist

Learn a thing or two.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

This one also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdozVq81gog

[Guy13]

Firstly, you have renamed Evolution. What you are pontificating is Evolution. A new name does not make it different or Truth.
—ANSWER ME ONE QUESTION…HOW DID THAT METEORITE GET THERE⁉️ SENSIBLY please and in your own words. FOCUS ON THIS ONE QUESTION PLEASE. One thing at a time…not everyone is as original, creative, and/or smart as you. Answer my one little question please.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

I didn't gave a different name to anything. You really don't know a lot about this stuff do you?
Also you seem to not like information from experts. Everything I told you came from my mouth with knowledge that I got from hearing them. This is not something I am founding out now. I have been their subscriber for a long time.

Part of it landed on earth and scientists analysed it. Simple right?

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

Oh sorry misread your question. How did it get here? They get here all the time! They combust when they como in contact with our atmosphere. More often that not nothing reachers the ground but small particles. Ever so often some decent pieces actually fall down and we have a collection of them. Just like we have of fossils.

[Guy13]

How did it get airborne?

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

Combust*

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

What? It came from space. It was always airborne.

[Guy13]

How did your meteorite form❓

[Guy13]

Simple to answer. If you can do both at same time I think I can manage it

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

Same way the earth did. Do you want me to tell you about the big bang next?

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

I am genuinely curious to know what your point is. So far you have gave me no evidence for God. And I specifically asked for it.
You can't give me the evidence that I asked, but I can give you the evidence that you asked. Atheism and theism I suppose.

[Guy13]

The Big Bang…how did that start?

[Guy13]

Since that first one may be to much for you…How about this? What do you considered the fundamental elements of Physics to be?

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

What existed before the big bang the scientists are still trying to know. But we have evidences for it like the still going expansion of the universe.

I know you will say someone must have created the explosion or that there was no explosion, there was simple the act of God. But the proof that you have of that is zero. Again, just because we don't know something doesn't mean God did it.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

To much for me? You don't know anything about this. I am the one explaining and you have so far given nothing to support your believe in the magical immortal that makes snakes talk. Somehow.

Now what do you mean by fundamental elements of physics?

[Guy13]

Wow…now you know what I’m thinking or saying before I say and write it. You must have a crystal ball. I didn’t know your Atheism god approved of those.
—So, according to you your religious belief atheism, it is underpinned by Science. Since you have to have deep science understanding to understand your “Bible” and confess your faith that God Is Not then please tell me what the basic elements of Physics are to you?
—From what I gathered from your writing, “I don’t know but we have a meteorite full of stuff is enough to base human existence upon that meteorite.
I’m going to read that post that said we do not know our origins (“I don’t know” but…) to my logic class tomorrow and see what the 7th graders have to say about its Sensibility.
—I have another one for you too please. Do you think items can self-create or self-start?

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

Because all theist s argue the same way.
Don't use the equivalent fallacy here. For you to have a religions are faith based. Science is fact based. The opposite. Thing is science is not inherently atheist. But "A cosmic entity did it" was never and will never be a logical hypothesis.

Bible is a bunch of nonsense. Talking animals, people living inside fish, contradictions left and right, Abraham outwitting God (how can that be if he is God). Global flood that has been disproved by many scientific fields. Not only that but did you know several of the bibles tales come from ancient folclore? The splitting of the sea one of them.

You mean the basic forces? Gravity, electromagnetic, strong and weak nuclear. Do you mean laws like thermodynamics? What do you mean?

There is the equivalent fallacy again. I don't know, but someone else in the scientific community does. But you don't know, yet no one does. Because you can't prove God exists.

Also evolution has several proofs. From the fossil record, biology, geology. Regardless of what existed before the big bang evolution is fact. That is what I am basing myself in. And you are basing yourself in faith. Which is the most dishonest position to have.

[Guy13]

You are trying way to hard…How did those fossil records get there if you are basing your religion upon them. Tell me about them? Did the fossil create themselves? So all of creation began from the fossils is what you are telling me.
If the whole crux of your religion is based upon the fossils then you should EASILY be able to explain how they got there.
Suddenly, Fossils and then man is what you are telling me. Can you get anymore nonsensical as a scientists than the suddenly fossils fall from the sky theorem or meteorite or self-creating and self-starting Big Bang Theory…
—And it gets crazier and crazier with your undiscovered ever expanding Universe you mentioned.-This Universe, of which you speak, self-created and self-started too…like a self- creating and self-exploding explosion that exploded 💥into Being, complexities, and Intelligent Design. What kind of religion do you worship. What kind of ludicrous facts are these?

How did the fossils, ever expanding and undiscovered universe, and the Big Bang become. From what you have told me your whole religion is based upon OBJECTS self-creating and self-starting. How did those fossil records get there?

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

Trying? You really don't realize how bad you are losing this argument do you?
Not a religion. You are being willfully ignorant.
Fossils are animals. Under strad for thousands of years. They out themselves there and nature did the rest. Never said creation came from the fossils. Fossils are just evidences of evolution.
We don't have a crox. Again we are not a religion.

You are talking nonsense. Fossils don't fall from the sky. Rocks with amino acids fall from space. The big bang has nothing to do with evolution. Even if you somehow prove the big bang to be false evolution will still be a fact.

There is no intelligent design. That much is obvious. It it wasn't there wouldn't be as much flaws and there are in our body. I already talked about this, but since you are not listening I have a feeling I will have to repeat myself a lot.

I also already talked about the pile of nonsense that the bible is. Zero argument made against those points. Because you have nothing of course. But to insult my facts while your mythology book talks about taking animals is actually funny.

While we still don't know for sure how the big bang came to be that doesn't mean a magic genie snapped his finger and all came to be. That is pure fiction. Made up fiction. The same level of Santa Claus or the gods of Olympus.

[Guy13]

You will not answer Simple questions. It’s become glaringly clear that you have no knowledge of science. How did the Big Bang happen GIVEN you think it is real happening and connected to existence of man? Where did the amino acids, rocks, expanding universe, and all that come from GIVEN you think they hold the key to existence of man..
You should be able to logically explain how theses events lead to existence of man.
—You are basing your religiosity, identity, and eternality on these things but yet you have nothing that you can substantiate logically. You’ve got lots of opinion though and what others say BUT YET you can not address the simplistic things logically..
—BTW Science guy…Basic elements of Physics are Resting Mass (Rocks/Amino Acid), Resting Energy, Resting Motion. Physics does not work without them. Given there’s a meteorite now there has had to always be Mass. How did that Resting Mass get there? How did it go from Resting to Action States? If it was a Big Bang then what caused the Bang to occur. The Bang, Amino Acids, Expanding Universe, and Evolution are Effects NOT First Causes or Prime Movers.
Without Resting Energy, Resting Mass, and Resting Motion, the planet does not hang properly and Physics is not. How did these Resting States get here and how did they become Action States?

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

What question didn't I answer? Tell me and I will answer it.
On the other hand you keep failing to answer a single one. Not surprised.
The big bang has nothing to do with the existence of humans. You talk like there is a plan, a big scheme of things. There isn't. The big bang is the origin of the universe. The earth is just a very small celestial body that came from it that happened to generate life. The process that created that life and how we came to be I already told you. Aminos acids on meteorites, fossils, geology, radiometric dating, genetics, all that are proofs of it all.
Do you know what that is? Proof? Facts? Observable things? Not conjured by imagination?
Did you get it now?

Meteorites are not resting in space. They are in constant movement, just like everything in space is. The fact that the universe is expanding is one of the proofs of the big bang. How did it got up there? Again, the big bang. The big explosion of energy. That's the first cause that you are looking for that drove everything else. What caused to occur is still debated today.
What you don't seem to grasp is that even if we don't still know for sure what caused it, doesn't mean a divinity did it. Why? Because there is no proof of that. But we have proof for the big bang.

Until you can give proof of God, you have no argument.

Think about it this way. In the last people thought lighting was divine anger. Today we know what causes it and the ancient ones who thought it came from God are now remembered as superstitious fools. We will know one day what cause it. And it will be a rational thing. Not a magic being made up by us because we don't know something yet.

Look at what you are doing. You don't know. And you make up a God to justify it. Just like the primitives of the past did.

I don't know. But I don't make up an imaginary friend to justify things.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

On a final note, atheism is the fastest growing demographic in the modern world. Less and less people believe superstitions. The more advanced civilizations are the less people believe. The more information people have the less they believe. Because they know better. Because they know how things came to be. And to ignore the obvious nonsense written on the bible.

[Guy13]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 how much simpler can I be. If you believe in physics then you have to believe in Resting Mass, Resting Energy, and Resting Motion. For there to be Mass (floating rock) there has always had to be rock. How did the first Rock get there? How did Resting Mass Resting Motion and/or Resting Energy get there?

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

The rock got there due to the big bang. It was already said. I always find it funny when theist try to use science to disprove science. Lovely.

Now I will make the questions.
Do you have any proof of God?

Do you believe in talking animals?

Do you believe in a global flood?

Do you believe in magic?

[jshm2]

It's a belief that doesn't like to call itself a faith. White lab coats decide, where in others it's white priests robe that do.

[aWes0MeNeSs]

People can believe (or not believe) anything they like. As long as they don't try to shove their beliefs down anyone's throat, I don't care what they believe, as long as it doesn't involve hurting anyone.

I'm a big proponent of "Believe what you want, and let others believe what they want" when it comes to religion. I've never seen it do any good to try to force beliefs (or non-beliefs) on anyone, anyway.

[Agape93]

Believe what you like, just don't be a dick about it.

[Recurrence]

I’m an atheist.
I have no morals, I’m very mean to small children and well meaning animals.
I hate everything beautiful and true in this world.
Jk, I’m super chill

[letstalk_]

lol, but what made you to be an atheist?

[Recurrence]

I wasn’t raised religious and I just never was convinced of one

[uwu_princess]

I'm an atheist, Im happy about it :p
The best choice in my life.

[letstalk_]

is it alright if you could share your journey? the why and how?

[God_of_Thunder]

I'm an athiest, but I don't understand what you mean. There's nothing to think about. It's just what I am. 🤷‍♂️

[AndrésC64]

It's really not a difficult idea.

[Dargil]

When they are all dressed up in their caskets, they will be all dressed up with no place to go.

[AndrésC64]

And?

[Anonymous]

What is there to think about it? I'm an atheist, but I never think anything of it other than being religionless.

[letstalk_]

A lot, because there is more to it than being religionless.

[Opinion Owner]

Such as?

[Opinion Owner]

Are you asking why I don't believe in God?

[letstalk_]

Like the why's, the how's, and the impact of being a non believer.

[Paradox316]

I think it's a very logical way to look at the philosophy of religion given the (lack) of evidence.

[sunflower00]

I’m an atheist and it’s great

[genericname85]

just makes the most sense xD

[skyeee_]

issa one of the religions, nothing against it

[call_me_scar]

I'm a huge fan

[HeartFullOfGlue]

Don't really care