Why do people always use the Bible to say not to judge, but ignore everything else it says?

[Deserter]

It says being gay is a sin amongst other things, but y'all are silent on that.

[BoopBoopBeep]

It makes a good bumper sticker, but the bible doesn't say don't judge, it says judge not lest ye be judged yourself, meaning don't be a hypocrite and tell people not to do something you are doing.

It also says in John 7:24 how to judge with righteous judgement, and Romans 13:4 "For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil." That seems kinda judgey.

1 Corinthians 6:3-5 King James Version 3 "Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life? 4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church." Here admonishing the church for seeking dispute clarification from secular scholars instead of from within the church.

Believe in the bible or don't, that's on you, but if one is going to use it as a shield or sword, the least one could do would be read it.

As someone who has read each of the Torah, Christian Bible, most of the Catholic Bible, Quran, and Tripitaka at least once cover to cover, it always amazes me how those who quote one of them the most seem to be the ones who have read it the least.

[LiamJHayden]

Lots of people inside and outside of the church, including many pastors/ministers/priests yank passages out of context as a pretext for their arguments. The passage in Matthew 7 that speaks of not judging is in the context talking about judging hypocritically. Funny that I have referred to this twice today on the site.

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

If you believe in God then you’ll meet your maker on tour judgement day… So leave others to theirs on theirs… The point of judge not lest ye yourself be judged, is showing everyone is a sinner and it’s not your place to judge the level of someone else’s sins… People should worry about their own sins and let others worry about theirs

[Deserter]

The Bible says to spread God's message, gayness is a sin

[Anonymous]

There are some Christians who nitpick the Bible. While homosexuality is an abomination, I do think there are other topics they can talk about as well

[Deserter]

That I agree on

[kylee2437]

Personally I’m not into the Bible because it’s contradicting and people have been using it for years to argue against each other and defer from peace. A book about supposedly being a better person should not defer peace.

[Deserter]

It is about being a better person, but some misconstrue the message and that creates conflict

[kylee2437]

But ultimately the Bible also creates people to be for the worse, so I don’t believe it anymore.

[Deserter]

So dumb

[kylee2437]

The way you have replied to others on this question proves my point

[Deserter]

Nope

[kylee2437]

Actually truthful

[strateguy632]

actually it said "do not condemn" so they probly say it only not to HEAR criticism, what serves their wants.

[boggboss]

Because it may be a sin but u don't need to call out sin

[Deserter]

Yes you do, blackie

[kylee2437]

@boggboss is 100% correct. Also says God is the only judge, yet biblical people judge others on a daily basis.

[Deserter]

It says to spread his message, Bible says homosexuality is a sin

[kylee2437]

Spreading his message and calling people out for not following his message are not the same.

[Deserter]

Fundementally it is, cause it will cause an argument

[boggboss]

It says spread the message of the bible with is God loves all his children even the sinners come on even I learnt that in bible studies spread his message dont mean weponise the bible funny thing is your attempt to use the bible as a weapon makes u a sinner for he who is without sin may judge and u my friend are definitely a sinner also

[boggboss]

Lol u clearly need to speak to your pastor if u think causing arguments is what God wants u to do 🤣 funny how does that claim to be holy tend to be not and what makes it worst if their is actually a god out there u will be punished worst then any gay for u use your Lords words to spread hate u think the Lord looks kindly on that 🤣🤣🤣

[kylee2437]

fundamentally spreading his word means following what the Bible says to do, it doesn’t even mean telling people what to do or what is a sin. This is why I don’t even deal with the Bible or people in that community anymore because they take the Bible and translate it into whatever fits their life better, many of them use it to create drama.

[boggboss]

Oh didn't u just love the way Jesus went around cussing gay people and telling them they would go hell yeah those stories where amazing what a clown

[Deserter]

I said it would cause one, genius. Causing an argument isn't the goal.

Kylee, you don't like the Bible cause it says what to do. Don't quote scripture if you're gonna use one line and ignore the rest

[boggboss]

Galatians 5:19-21
Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

You see that my friend u shall be going to the same place u believe the gays are going by your vary own book 👍🏽

[boggboss]

As the bible also states no sinner is worst then another so your sin of spreading hatred will be taking u down

[Deserter]

We are all sinners cause birth is sin. Some are still going to hell lol

[boggboss]

Yes we are born of sin but u claim to follow the book yet continue to sin in the name of the book

[kylee2437]

@Deserter the Bible was written as a way to socially construct people into believing that there’s only one right way to live. It’s a social construct of what back then would consider a good person. Times have changed, and the Bible’s rules no longer fit the evolution of the world, and not only that the Bible has created massive amounts of terrible people.

[Deserter]

Lol morality does not change with the times

[kylee2437]

Actually it does especially when there’s certain things people did in biblical times out or morality that people that even practice the Bible can’t /won’t routinely do anymore out of evolution points.

[kylee2437]

I’m bisexual and a person telling me I’m going to burn when I’m dead isn’t stopping me from liking women 🤷🏻‍♀️ I will burn gladly

[boggboss]

Morality definitely changes with times the old testament to new shows that

[Deserter]

No it doesn't, why would right and wrong change? You're moral relativists

[kylee2437]

@deserter the real question you should be asking is how can your fate even be determined before it happens? It’s like when I was younger my mom would tell me I would be arrested for keeping her inside car lights on. It was her using my childhood ignorance to dictate a behavior. That’s exactly what the Bible was designed for. It was designed for people to act a certain way in ignorance to how life is after death

[Deserter]

Is it out of the realm of possibility? You do get arrested for some things

[kylee2437]

Yeah you don’t get arrested for lights on in a car - way too deter the point since the Bible is your life and savior. Too bad it’s not mine

[Deserter]

Gay sex is yours. You miss the point, you think cause yur mom lied to you about the lights that means there's no consequences to your actions lmao

[kylee2437]

No my mom manipulated the situation to get what she wanted because in reality lights on in a car isn’t that serious. Gay sex will be mine, meanwhile you pretend like you follow the Bible all the way even though in this day and age it’s impossible

[Deserter]

"Jail doesn't exist cause momma lied about the car lights"

[kylee2437]

Jail doesn’t exist for people that leave lights on in their car - dude it’s amazing how you miss points because you want to be correct so badly. You proved my original comment I left. The Bible created terrible people

[Deserter]

No, but jail still exists, that's the point 🤦‍♂️

[kylee2437]

Jail exists - not for that. You are focused on the jail aspect of things when that wasn’t even the point. Exaggerating with an idea to influence a persons behaviors is called manipulation

[Deserter]

Because you think hell doesn't exist...

[kylee2437]

There is no scientific proof to show hell exists. If society didn’t influence you to believe hell existed, you wouldn’t think it exists

[Deserter]

So stupid you are. Oh yeah, it was just a random cosmic accident. Nothing exploded

[kylee2437]

It’s stupid because I don’t believe in your beliefs? You talk like a 5 year old

[Deserter]

Your logic is dumb

[kylee2437]

My logical is logical. You use the Bible for your own evils and then get mad at people when they no longer believe the Bible. I’d believe it , if it actually brought world peace. Too bad it doesn’t

[kylee2437]

My logic *

[Deserter]

So it's not true cause you dont like it? Lol

[kylee2437]

It’s not true because there’s so many ideas to revert to it not being true aka the fact that you use the Bible to seek evil ways.

[kylee2437]

As I have met many many many other people that use the Bible to be assholes to others. A book telling others to be better people shouldn’t have that affect

[Deserter]

So it's not true cause people misinterpret it so they can be evil? Lol

[kylee2437]

That’s exactly what you did , and you aren’t the only person that uses it for that. More people use it for that than don’t.

[Deserter]

Lol omfg

[kylee2437]

Omfg what? You have proved that point. Sorry dude.

[Deserter]

Bro what? The bible doesn't say you can't judge, someone else posted scripture proving it

[kylee2437]

You proved my point again. People flip the Bible to fit whatever fits their life the best. This is why I don’t even care about the Bible nor do I care if a random stranger tells me I’m going to burn in hell for liking women. I don’t care.

[kylee2437]

But not only that, you also attempted to be racist towards the comment poster because he doesn’t agree with you.

[Deserter]

Boopboopbeep's comment proves you wrong

[kylee2437]

You have proved my comment right with only the way you have treated people in this comment section, but you are also racist too.

[kylee2437]

Not only the way*

[Deserter]

Look at you ducking lol

[kylee2437]

Ducking what? I’m calling out something you said to a black person in attempts to be rude to them , meanwhile you are talking about the Bible. Coincidence isn’t it?

[Deserter]

The bible doesn't say to not judge as you claimed

[boggboss]

No the bible says he who is without sin may throw the first rock towards another sinner that would include judgment also yo judge another could enter the sin of pride so no it may not exclusively say don't judge but to judge others branches other sin

[Deserter]

Try again, boy

It also says in John 7:24 how to judge with righteous judgement, and Romans 13:4 "For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil." That seems kinda judgey.

[boggboss]

U are taking judge out of context u can judge someone's actions internally without berating them as what u do would push them away from christ so u would be doing thr devil's work for him

John 7:24

Judge not according to the appearance
Or through respect of persons, and so as to please men, the Scribes and Pharisees; who had condemned the action of Christ, in curing the diseased man on the sabbath day, and sought to kill him for it:

but judge righteous judgment;
give your sense and judgment of things, according to the truth and evidence of them

[Deserter]

Who is berating them? Not I

[boggboss]

The authorities are God’s servants, sent for your good. But if you are doing wrong, of course you should be afraid, for they have the power to punish you. They are God’s servants, sent for the very purpose of punishing those who do what is wrong.

Again u are pulling scripture out of the bible out of context this is not referring to the commen man but referring to those in charge or that hold power I. e a ruler or those in authority you are neither

[boggboss]

Yes by calling out sin where u see fit is not your place again calling a gay person a sinner or telling them they will go hell won't get the to repent or to stop which should be your goal if u are a good Christian instead it will turn them away from the path in so damning them to satin so again u are doing the devil's work for him whilst claiming to be of God

[Deserter]

Lol so you want us to say nothing? You are so manipulative

[boggboss]

I'm not and u know you can't answer because u are not equipped to have this conversation there are many way u could tackle talking to someone that u believe u could save from being gay because telling them u are gay u are going hell 100% wouldn't work so are u more botherd by them being gay or actually saving their soul

[Deserter]

Enlighten the class then, genius. Jehova's witnesses are nice about it, it still convinces virtually nobody.

Fear is more powerful

[boggboss]

Lol fear don't work thats why god changed that in the new testament because in the days of god ruling through fear and wrath everyone went hell shut changed after Jesus mate

[Deserter]

Then why does God warn about hell? You still gave no solution

[boggboss]

Because hell is a thing I don't even believe in god so why would I know how to save them I just know what u are doing is the devil's work

[Deserter]

I knew it, you're just a manipulative atheist who is ok with sin. What you really want is for us to leave the gays alone

[boggboss]

Lol you make it so obvious how sinful u are ur gaol is not to save gays its to bother them or to make them feel fear u do know wrath is also a sin how is it I a man that dont follow the path have more knowledge and understanding of your book then u when for me church was a chore I was forced to do upto teenage years

[boggboss]

And know I'm not manipulative I just have a base level understanding of action and consequences and have seen what happens when u prosecute gays by claiming they are sinners going hell they instinctively rebel and class ur faith as a bunch of crazies

[Deserter]

I keep asking what's the alternative? You can't give one and are an atheist, you're a bad faith liar

[boggboss]

No im not a bad faith lier I'm able to point out your way of tackling gays is shit I don't require a solution to tell u what your doing don't work lol

[Deserter]

Yes you do, bro. Come up with a solution or shut up

[boggboss]

Why should I do your job for u lol are u stupid one does not require a solution to claim somthing is shit

[Deserter]

Moron, then stay out of it

[boggboss]

U are trying to challenge my reason why I'm arguing the point because u are not capable of challenging the point if u ain't able to tackle the issue that's fine but boiling down the argument to your bad faith or your manipulative just shows the lack of ability u have to explain why telling a gay man he is a sinner is to his or God's benefit

[Deserter]

No, you aren't, you gave no solution, are an atheist, and deny that fear works

[boggboss]

Because fear don't work sorry are u stupid did u not learn anything from Jesus who was god on earth he did not teach through fear but through love

[Deserter]

Yes it does, you are blocked now

[provokeesmokee]

That is actually debunked as a poor translation. The homophobia is a construction of the church.

Also if people actually listened to the Bible, men would be plucking their eyes out instead of staring at women.

[Deserter]

Yeah, no. It says homosexuality is a sin, try again