So, is this a reason why the Bible should not be taken literally?

[Anonymous]

[DJB72]

No. If - as anecdotal evidence as well as geological records are increasingly showing - there was a global flood with just 8 survivors then it makes sense the events that follow would take place in one area.

The Bible doesn't say Shem, Ham and Japheth didn't travel. It doesn't say anything about where they and their descendants wandered to.

It takes more faith to believe in evolution than creation simply because we've only observed micro evolution or changes within a species. Nobody ever saw a cat give birth to puppies and there's zero fossil record to suggest it.

And it's very convenient that a meteor hitting the planet with enough force to wipe out the dinosaurs didn't wipe out the food supply of everything else. And if it's because they were reptiles, explain the existence of reptilian life today - either all reptiles died or they didn't. It can't be both.

I used to be an evolutionary Christian. But the more I've studied it over 40 years, the less evolution makes sense on a macro level.

Darwin was right about changes within species to allow survival - as he noted in his study of finches and the shape of their beaks changing to allow them to have a greater access to food sources, but to hypothesise that a finch and an elephant had a common ancestors is insane. But not as insane as the idea that life began spontaneously as a result of some chemical reaction.

Or that at the moment of the Big Bang all the laws of physics didn't apply. I forget whose Law it was, but unless influenced by an outside force, matter doesn't change it's state.

Relativity can be used alongside the Bible as evidence of God. The Bible says God is Light (John chapter 1 amongst others) and that God is both the beginning and the end - so for God everything happens now. Relativity says the closer you get to the speed of light, the slower time passes. It's been demonstrated using atomic clocks in orbit at high velocity that this is accurate.

So at the speed of light there is no passage of time and past, present and future are the same thing.

Now I'm just a theologian, but it sounds like the Bible, written thousands of years ago and describing God as being Light for whom there is only now, actually accurately describes light itself according to physics. It's almost like it took science 6000 years to catch up with theology...🤔

[AngryCarl]

To take the Bible literally you would have to believe in talking snakes.

[strateguy632]

unless the snake was the great snake! "devil tempter satan" same as matthew chapter 2.

[strateguy632]

oops matthew 4.

[DJB72]

By the same logic I'd have to believe you're voice emanates from somewhere other than your mouth to not understand the concept of using an example of other than literal interpretation.

It must make eating extremely difficult...

[strateguy632]

@DJB72 what chapter are you referring too. you don't need to believe that

[DJB72]

Genesis 2&3. Satan is described as a serpent, but I know plenty of people I'd call a dog or a bitch - it doesn't mean they're literally canine.

There's plenty of metaphor in the Bible. Read Song of Solomon and the description of the lover's "navel" - translators in King James day were embarrassed about what body part the book is actually describing...

Isaiah's description of his and our own righteousness being like dirty rags (Isaiah 64:6) would literally be best translated today as "used tampon", but it's about metaphor...

[Anonymous]

This is a silly question. The Bible does mention other nations and regions outside of Northern Africa; Greece, Rome, Lydia (which is modern day Turkey), Asia, Dalmatia (modern Croatia), Spain, etc.

As for the animals, belief in the Bible and belief in evolution does not have to be mutually exclusive. Many modern species like hippopotamus, zebras, polar bears and sperm whales do not appear until quite late in the post-Flood fossil record. Which means that the kinds of animals that were on the ark are those now extinct. Whose to say that instead of a hippopotamus Noah had an anthracotheres?

[EmyyWolf]

Exactly, I will never submit to fairytales written in an ancient book by man. By humans.

Someone divided the ocean with a stick? STFU! 🤬, Someone made all the animals on earth board an ark? STFU! 🤬

I automatically loose all respect to anyone who follows religion.

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[EmyyWolf]

I Believe everything ERIC DUBAY says on these videos! He’s right!
https://youtu.be/kUjNfL58saA?si=C9auSYhQHeQ-H1v7

[strateguy632]

false. "Pairs of clean and unclean animals, of birds and of all creatures that move along the ground, 9 male and female, came to Noah and entered the ark" gen. 7, 7-9 ALL creatures, not JUST animals in a limited area.

similarly gen. 7,19 "They rose greatly on the earth, and all the high mountains under the entire heavens were covered." ALL places mentioned.

similarly by NAME what about ethiopia! 20 times, india too.

india twice, spain 2 or 3 times, ethiopia 20 times.

at least this area in picture. far more than any one author can ride a camel or donkey!

[NamerOfStars]

No, but the fact that you think that circle contains Mesopotamia, Rome, Gaul, the Sea of Reeds, and several other places mentioned in it is a sign that you need to get a map. One that doesn't depict Antarctica as larger than Asia, too.

The native range of Dromedary camels alone extends from the western coast of Africa, down through the Horn, all through the Arabian peninsula and almost out into India.

Troll smarter, not harder.

[OtterMan68]

camels are NOT native to Africa

[blueonblack22]

@NamerOfStars well said. I would like to see these “brave” ANTItheists try trolling the Q’ran or Muhammad and see how that works out for them.

Not to say I’m fine with any religion being trolled including Islam. But they almost exclusively always attack Christianity.

[Siri137]

That's actually a good point, and one of the many reasons why I could never take it at face value. I mean, how did Noah save the kangaroos and koalas? Or the kiwi bird or Tasmanian devil?

[John_And_Elijah]

Not every animal was aboard the ark. The flood only wiped out the upper land of the earth; not the entire earth. Read The Great Bible of 1539. It has some of the best translations. If you rely on garbage like NLT, NIV, ESV. You'll be left confused.

[Siri137]

@John_And_Elijah So the kangaroos and koalas were living in bunkers underneath the surface of the Earth?
The whole thing is a myth, it's made up.

[John_And_Elijah]

No, because the flood only wiped out a piece of the earth. It's like Florida being destroyed by a hurricane and tidal wave, yet every other state was never touched.

[strateguy632]

see gen. 7, 7-9 all types came.

[John_And_Elijah]

@strateguy632 All types from within that portion of the land that was flooded. Not every animal on the entire earth

[strateguy632]

@John_And_Elijah that is bias. all is all... not your prejudice!

[John_And_Elijah]

@strateguy632 Genesis 7:8 (The Great Bible of 1539)

"Of cleane catell, & of vncleane catell, & of flyenge foules, and of euery suche as crepeth VPON (UP ON) the erth."

"Up on the earth" meaning "upper portion of the earth ". It's refering to specific land.

[Siri137]

@John_And_Elijah That's NOT what it claims in Genesis! It says that the entire world was flooded.

[John_And_Elijah]

I don't know what bible your reading, but that's exactly what it's saying. Unless your being deceived by church teachings.

[RebelinSteel]

Nah well that’s bollox, who ever drew the circle did not read the Bible

[Kelly6]

@RebelinSteel
Exactly

[Asker]

What other animals are mentioned in the Bible that are not from the region indicated?

[RebelinSteel]

Who mentioned animals
Read what the image says.
Every person and place
Hence the image is utter bollox

[Kelly6]

Whale , 🤣

[RebelinSteel]

Also animals, you heard of the that big ship, hmm the Ark I think it was called.
N yeah Doves are solely limited to that area 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[Kelly6]

@RebelinSteel
Totally agree

[Subglacial]

The image is worded kinda poorly. It's not claiming that the things mentioned in the Bible are exclusive to that area, but that the Bible only mentions things found in that area.

Still, despite the ambiguous wording, I thought it was pretty obvious what it meant...

(Also, it definitely does say "animal" in addition to person, place, and event, so either the image changed or you just skimmed over it.)

@Kelly6, the original Hebrew just calls the whale a big fish. English translations usually use the word "whale", but the Bible doesn't give any specifics on what it actually was or what it looked like. That's kind of irrelevant anyway, though, since there are whales in the Mediterranean.

[Kelly6]

@Subglacial can’t you add bible with reality and guess which fish can swallow a man and then will spit him out.

This even happened currently.

[RebelinSteel]

@Subglacial nah it’s bollox.

[Kelly6]

@Subglacial www.capecodtimes.com/.../

[Kelly6]

@Subglacial and Noah story happened wherever there was Atlantis 🤣

[Subglacial]

@Kelly6 Did you actually read that article, or just the headline? The man was scooped into the whale's mouth, not swallowed. Filter-feeding whales like humpbacks couldn't swallow a man even if they wanted to; their esophagus is the size of a baseball. It even says so in that very article. "The esophagus on nontoothed whales is too small to actually swallow a human but they could wrap their mouth around a large object and then spit it out."

Whether or not a humpback can swallow an adult man whole is kinda beside the point, though. Whales and non-specific "great fish" exist in the Mediterranean and would have/could have been known to Biblical authors. Whether or not it's true, the point is that would not take divine inspiration for a writer to come up with a story about a big fish.

@RebelinSteel Okay.

[Kelly6]

@Subglacial i read it. yes you are correct, but has similar effect as the event in bible. it's just my theory not a fact

[Kelly6]

@Subglacial im a person who loves to create theories by adding reality with biblical or ancient history.
as i combined Noah with Atlantis. A guy on youtube has same theory and connection with Eye of Sahara.

[Anonymous]

I will be sure to pass on that information to all of the people that were healed through the Holy Spirit and the laying of hands exactly as Jesus did in the Bible...

[nawtee_me]

No so, God created the earth and all that is in it. God chose a people to be His people and since they were from that area the Bible is written from events of that area and of His people. The Bible is about God not the world….

[slatyb]

Because much of it is clearly mythical -- Genesis and Exodus in particular.

[purplepoppy]

Penguins walked from Antartica and across a desert just to get on a boat

[patois]

That must be why "all nations" is repeated dozens of times...

[Knightwatch27]

Yeah. Because grabbing a random poster with an unsubstantiated claim must surely be entirely accurate right? Scientific research in action. Smh.

[Anonymous]

God didn't divide people to other nations and languages tell the tower of Babel also keep in mind the bible reads like a bunch of metaphors which can make the simplest thing sound more complicated.

[jjj101010]

I mean the fact it was written a long time after any of the events were meant to have taken place may mean there has been some distortion in the accuracy of them

[strateguy632]

if abraham was 2100 BC humans had been writing since 3100 bc. who said any time gap?

[jahaims]

Common sense is the only reason you need to not take the bible literally

[Anonymous]

Much of the Bible, like Genesis is parable.

For example: Who were Adam and Eve's children marry and have kids with?

[strateguy632]

one possiblity is each other see genesis chapter 5, 3-5. or they bred with the other humans that evolved from mammals.

[Kelly6]

Sounds interesting

[Asker]

Yes! I love science!

[Kelly6]

What does science have to do with this?

[Asker]

The science is pointing out the fact that the animal knowledge is limited to a specific geographical area. I don't think most people realize that.

[Kelly6]

Not true

[Kelly6]

by the way bible is mostly talking about Middle East and North Africa because at that time that area was where most of ther population was

[Asker]

Yes, the science is pointing out the FACT that the knowledge is limited to the Middle East and Africa... as pointed out in the graphic.

[Kelly6]

You must me dude who use word science to do everything including job at toilet 🤣.

Science is making thing coming out of my A..

[Asker]

Actually, I am the dude who believes in common sense and rational thought. You might actually try studying science (and English ), but I know it's easier for some people to believe fairy tales..

[Dargil]

G0d had that knowledge.

[DrPepper12]

Yes. There are ♾️ more reasons too.

[RedInnocent69]

Probably.

[Enginn]

Yes. Read quran