Does non religious spitularity mean non religious but not atheist either?

[Vivaldi]

Does non religious spitularity mean non religious but not atheist either?

[jshm2]

No. It's just stupidity given a different name.

There is no such thing as an "atheist". What they mean is "denier". The sort of shitbag that will stand in a crowd and sneer, while having nothing better to offer, themselves.

[Vivaldi]

Fuck your Allah

[Vivaldi]

Seriously, nobody has to believe what shit you believe in.

[Vivaldi]

I was reading the belief of Novosibirsk, Russia, which is the 3rd biggest place in Russia. That is why I asked.

24.9% Ortodox Christian

32% Non Religious Spirituality

25% Atheist

18.1% Other

That is so.

[HaveNoName]

Spirituality has nothibg to do with reiligion. It is just used as an escape word by people whan they have no knowledge of religion, or they have no intent to adhere to it, but they also do not want ro say they do not believe in God.

[Vivaldi]

I very much like saying I don't believe in god or gods.

[NathanDavis]

sounds like they just like pot a lot... lmao

[Vivaldi]

What do you mean?

[NathanDavis]

[strateguy632]

correct it related to imaginary stuff that atheist deny as imaginary

[Vivaldi]

What do you mean?

[Vivaldi]

I think I got it

[genericname85]

what does "spirituality" mean in the first place? define it. before you do that, talking about your question is pointless.

[Vivaldi]

I was reading the belief of Novosibirsk, Russia, which is the 3rd biggest place in Russia. That is why I asked.

24.9% Ortodox Christian

32% Non Religious Spirituality

25% Atheist

18.1% Other

That is so.

[genericname85]

are you talking to me? it doesn't seem like you do. cause what you just said had nothing at all to do with what i initially said.

[Vivaldi]

Yes I am.

I read this. And I asked the question.

[genericname85]

well then why did you not define "spirituality"?

[Vivaldi]

They use the term themselves

[Vivaldi]

English is your native language, not mine.

[genericname85]

English is not my native language either. but that doesn't matter for the thing we're talking about. because no matter what language you are using, if you use unprecise words that you're not sure what they even mean, any conversation in that language will be very unproductive. that's why i'm asking for a definition before having a conversation.

[Vivaldi]

That is why I asked here.

I believe non religious spirituality is different than religion there. They dont believe in a religion but at the same time, they believe in things like sprit.

That is what I think.

[Vivaldi]

I thought you were British

[genericname85]

well again. you're using the word spirituality or spirit without defining it. you're not laying the foundation for the conversation. and as long as you're not doing that, i can't have the conversation with you.

[genericname85]

i'm german :D

[Vivaldi]

It can mean both maybe

One is a religioun believer only by name.

My father is a muslim only by name. He never does anything about religion. He is actually a lot more like deist than muslim but calls himself muslim.

My father being a muslim never says Muhammed but only Allah. He is like a deist.

Second is not believing in any religion but believing in things like sprit. Or maybe a deist too.

[Vivaldi]

My father is basically a fake muslim. Only by name. He is deist to me.

[genericname85]

do you understand what a "definition" is?

[Vivaldi]

Yes. And I said it could mean both which I described above.

[genericname85]

"it can mean both". what is "it" and which 2 things are "both" in that sentence?

[Vivaldi]

I wrote above.

One is non religious muslim or christian. They are muslim or christian only by name. They live like deists do.

Second is not believing in religions but believing in things like sprit.

[Vivaldi]

I think it means the second, anyway.

[genericname85]

so. if you define "spiritual" as "non religious muslim or christian" then your question is:

"do non religious non religious muslim or christian mean non religious but not atheist either?". your sentence makes no sense this way. your centence has to make sense if you replace words with the definition of the words. or else there's a problem with either your sentence or the definition.

or is the question you're asking really: can someone who doesn't believe in god/allah still not be an atheist? cause that certainly can be the case. there's a bunch of gods outside of the ones in christianity and islam.

[Vivaldi]

Not believeing in religions but believing in things like sprit.

That must be it.

[genericname85]

is a spirit a "god"?

[Vivaldi]

Could be things like sprits

[Vivaldi]

No it is not

[Vivaldi]

Not god but things like sprits.

[genericname85]

well you're again using words i have no idea what they mean. what's a spirit? I don't know. but if it's not a god (whatever that is), then it doesn't concern atheists, cause atheism only refers to god not anything else.

[jahaims]

It means following religion without following any organization

[Vivaldi]

What do you mean?

[Vivaldi]

Is it like being a muslim or chrstian but not religious?

[jahaims]

No, it's like believing in a higher power and not following any organized religion