Why can't there be a hierarchy within the trinity?

[standardguy]

Many trinitarians say that father, son and holy sprit have to be same mighty and equal. But wouldn't it be normal if the son obeys the father and the holy spirit obeys and says that what father and son say? That would not reduce the holiness nor the divinity.

There can be hierarchy within the trinity

There can't be hierarchy within the trinity

[genericname85]

because they can't compute the idea that "the highest thing" in their mind is split up in 3 things. cause if i split one thing in 3 pieces, i have 3 pieces that are one third of the full thing. and they do not like the idea of "their highest thing" becoming less. so that paradoxon creates a dilemma in their brain where they don't want to make god less but they have to, cause logic dictates that. so they will choose to contradict themself rather than following logic. which is symptomatic to the entirety of faith.

[strateguy632]

wrong reason. a god who submits lost its divinity!

[genericname85]

@strateguy632 it's curious that you think that saying "wrong reason" without any sort of argument carries any sort of argumentative weight. also the sentence "a god who submits, lost it's divinity" has no coherence with what i have said at all. you need to make your point yourself sir. i'm not gonna do it for you.

[strateguy632]

according to the creed all three persons "are one" so impossible hierarchy because you are not submissive to yourself

[standardguy]

Yes but husband and wife are also "one", one flesh and though the husband is the head of the wife.

[strateguy632]

because according to the creed the three are not attached as one, like spouse, just the same one in different appearances.

[standardguy]

Yes but though wife and husband are of same value, it's part of the wife to submit to her husband.

[ChelseaW]

There is not a true ontological hierarchy in the Trinity. That would be an Arian error. But there can be a relational hierarchy in the filioque. Also, the Son is subordinate to the Father in the sense that he has a human nature, but he is equal to his Father in his divinity.

[collie22]

The bible is hard to understand because of the way it's written. When you find the Hebrew translations the bible becomes simple. The Trinity is one God

[Dargil]

Because it is One God. Think of G0d as a 3-stranded rope. He (and It) derive strength by combining all 3.

[standardguy]

Yes, but some ropes have differently broad strands ;-)

[Dargil]

And that means... what, exactly?