Do you believe humans originated from Apes?

[coachTanthony]

Yes

No

[Lliam]

They evolved from a common ancestor but branched off from apes millions of years ago. There have been several kinds of hominids, most recently Neanderthals and Denisovians, before homo sapiens became dominant.

All life on Earth has evolved over time through climate changes and extinction events. The Earth and its flora and fauna have changed tremendously over billions of years.

Given geology, paleontology, anthropology and genetics, it's absurd to believe the myth of Genesis in the Bible.

[Tamera952]

Exactly. Couldn’t have said it better myself.

[Lliam]

Thank you, Tamera.

[OfDeath]

The only thing you got wrong is the branching off. Humans are actually still apes. Great apes.

[Lliam]

@OfDeath. They are different branches of the same tree. Humans, chimps, bonobos, gorillas and orangutans are hominids, but obviously different species.

[OfDeath]

But all apes.

[strateguy632]

wow so many blind atheists think they can "make evolution seem palatable" if you dont use the word ape... but primate means ape!

pithicus means ape!

pithicus means ape! just fancy words!

no wonder no body believes that unbelievable crap. between that and god only god is plausible... unless you fear cancel culture so you say you believe evolution... which the real evolution included god breathing life... as written in book by darwin who everyone cheers.

[strateguy632]

"Greek pithekos "ape" from etymology. but it is hard to accept... so even atheists deny science just as much as those they mock for doubting science.
the common ancestor was a pithicus!

[Dongie]

Well, I'll be a monkees uncle.

[strateguy632]

@Dongie <3

[Martina-a]

We descended from a common ancestor as apes, but we did not descend directly from apes themselves. Humans and modern day apes are apart of the primate family.

[Lliam]

Nailed it, Martina. Finally, someone with education.

[strateguy632]

yuh huh pithicus means ape.. hard to swallow, i know. @martina-a

[strateguy632]

also you hid who the common ancestor was... not a dolphin!

[Dongie]

Heh, I thought it was primape.

[purplepoppy]

Science says from a common ancestor, I think we're the embarrassing cousin the other apes just don't want to talk about

[on_my_knees]

An ape's penis is 1.25 inches, whereas the chimpanzee's is 6 inches. Not surprisingly most of our DNA comes from chimpanzees.

[DrPepper12]

Right on!!!

[AviatorTom]

Let's get evolution straight. Evolution does not posit that humans evolved from apes. Rather, humans and apes evolved from a common ancestor.

Those that say humans evolved from apes, like this...

are misunderstanding evolution, and blatantly incorrect!!! Evolution of humans (and other apelike creatures) is a tree, like this...

[strateguy632]

oh yeah? not only does "science" say we are from pithicus but "humans are apes."
how do i add a picture like you did.
not fair they only let you but here is the link.
www.britannica.com/.../71620

[strateguy632]

the link is to the relevant picture.

[AviatorTom]

@strateguy632 Yes, human and apes are primates, because we have a common ancestor. That doesn't mean we evolved from each other though.

[strateguy632]

wow you keeep hiding the word ape but that is ehat science claims. you deny science as much as those who you mock.

[strateguy632]

the ancestor WAS pithicus... greek for ape, Greek pithekos "ape"

[Chazmatazz269]

It’s disingenuous to say it that way. Modern man and modern apes have a common ancestor that arguably looked more like modern apes than modern man. Evolution as we think we know it generally results in the lesser species dying out, either from breeding selection or from the inability to adapt to changing environmental conditions, or competing organisms. Since apes are still here, clearly we didn’t evolve from them.

[OlderAndWiser]

Maybe!

[coachTanthony]

lmao.

[ChicoFromThe305]

No lol, it just wouldn't explain how some evolved into humans and why we still have apes now, shouldn't the all have evolved into humans, I don't see any ducks without web feet walking around or fish without gills and even if there's some, it's too many monkeys that failed to evolve for that to be the case.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

You're talking too much common sense. 🤫

[Kaneki05]

You must agree viruses evolve right? By such logic there would be no such things as different viruses there would just be one.
Now apply that to all creatures. There is many variations of viruses just as there are creatures they don't all just change to one thing in unison.
So this point is just what? As many could just not evolve. That's a legit thing that happens 24/7 and then many evolve in different ways. Hence why tons of different primates exist.

[pergamon300]

@Kaneki05 No one is denying evolving. I think the point is, macro evolution of species evolving into different species, is false. For example humans are the only species to evolve into intelligent beings that can build entire cities and fly to space, and the other apes and animals, are literally still the same as 20 million years ago, rolling in dirt and swinging from trees.
Humans were never animals.

[pergamon300]

I meant to say, considering humans are intelligent super beings of the earth, we never evolved from apes. We were created more intelligent.

[Kaneki05]

@pergamon300 Look up are humans animals and tell me what you find. Because I really ain't bothered to explain how wrong you are lmao.

[pergamon300]

@Kaneki05 Actually we're not. You're incorrect. We much higher beings.

[Kaneki05]

@pergamon300 All it takes is one google search and you'll see your wrong it's not hard.

[pergamon300]

@Kaneki05 All it takes for you to do is use your common sense. It's not that hard.
Don't believe everything you're told.

You mean to tell me that animals 15 million years ago, were digging ditches, rolled in dirt and were savages, without high intelligence. 15 million years they are the exact same.
Yet some how, some way, one so called ''animal'', a species of ape, mysteriously developed into a ''super animal'' who somehow, some unexplained way evolved into being ridiculously smarter then all the other millions of animals on the planet, to where they could build cities and skyscrapers, go into space, and blow up the planet and every other animal with nucs, despite the fact that these apes known as human were originally also living in the same habitat and environment as other monkeys, animals etc. (according to evolution). While ''mysteriously'' the other animals, have still stayed the same...

No, we're not animals, we never evolved from an animal, we are labeled ''animals'' by evolutionists as a way to make sense of the nonsensical theory of evolution. It's a way of explaining away a creator. We'll still wait for other animals to catch up to near us. Spoiler alert: It will never happen, as they're not humans, and we're not animals.
Use a bit of sense.

[Kaneki05]

@pergamon300 I take science over dumb guy on internet who can't figure out that we are animals and don't know other animals and humans evolve all the time and don't stay the same.
If you don't believe in evolution you might as well be telling me you think the earth is flat, so make an argument you want but your wrong lol.

[pergamon300]

@Kaneki05 ''I take science''. You do realize the irony of your comment?
Science is not suppose to be dogmatic, science is meant to be regularly questioned and tested. Blindly accepting what some scientists say out there, or in your words, ''I take the science'', is actually quite unscientific, and is dogmatic, but I'll let you believe that your ancestors once swung from trees if that makes you feel better, because some others have told you it's true, without bothering to investigate yourself.

[Kaneki05]

@pergamon300 It's not Dogmatic there is tons of evidence we are animals. Meanwhile there is no evidence we aren't.
Same way we have evidence the world is round not flat yet no evidence to prove the earth is flat.
So unless you gonna show me some scientific studies explaining humans aren't animals I really don't care what you believe to be truth that's not backed by science.
And following what some random idiot say's online without any evidence who's then trying to proclaim it's dogmatic to not agree with them is funny.

[pergamon300]

@Kaneki05 You're trying to draw a long, imagery bow, linking not believing in macro evolution to being a flat earther... It's nothing alike, and I don't believe in flat earth, so your point means nothing.

You want blatant living scientific evidence that we are similar, but not in fact evolved animals? It's in front of us. Name me a few other animals that are advanced, intelligent beings like us. Show me this yet to be unheard of animal, and I'll believe you... I'll wait...

It's not dogmatic to not agree with me. It's dogmatic to insist you're right, simply because you blindly believe what you deem science says, without even bothering to do some proper study on the topic.

[Kaneki05]

@pergamon300 I draw the line because it's no different, if you can't see the parrels of anti-science been the same as another that shows how far you already gone tbh.
Go ahead show me literally any scientifical evidence that humans aren't animals, since the burden of proof is not on me it's on you if your going against what current science is saying.

Ps You saying it's in front of us is funnily enough not scientifical studies and is just you saying what you believe to see is true. Flat earthers would say the exact same thing, oh it's just in front of us look at the horizon there is no curve! Meaning we are flat right?

It's almost like looking and doing an actual study is different. And all studies show we are animals, we made from the same stuff and developed from the same microorganisms, if we didn't and weren't you would be proving we are in fact Aliens or Divine creatures somehow if you answer to that is well we are because of the bible then that say's it all really and no point even trying to speak about science from your behalf lol.

[pergamon300]

@Kaneki05 Still no proof lol.
You clearly haven't done much or any research on it, hence why you don't have proper evidence other then keep going back to, ''that's what I believe the science or studies say''. I do realize we have similarities to animals, such as genome for example, however we are just as different. Just like we have a large portion of genome equivalent to some plants - We are obviously not plants however.
I also don't think you realize what science actually is. It's not just some men in a lab coat in a lab.
It can be the study of something in this world through observation and experimentation by anyone.
We have observed that animals are the same now as they were 10 million years ago and 65 million years ago, and aren't getting any more intelligent like humans. We can also observe that while humans will keep getting smarter, in a million years time, actual animals, will still be the same, just as they have been from 65 million years ago. I wonder what's making this disparaging difference? Maybe you can explain it, which you still can't seem to...
Do you really think in the year 5 million AD, you're going to see a evolved grizzly bear or any ape species walking down the street, parking it's implala, then and buying a hotdog? Now while you may say that sounds stupid, you're literally trying to convince me that an animal that was a subspecies of an ape has now evolved into this, that we call humans - Even though can clearly observe since dinosaur times, no other animal is capable of this, and for some ''unexplained'' reason, which you can't give me, and no animal still won't be capable of this in the future...
But mysteriously, only one super being ''animal'' is...

[pergamon300]

Also you're claiming that we are animals, so the burden of proof is on you.
Just like people like you like to claim, the ''burden of proof is on those who claim God is real''. When you want to make a claim, it's on you to prove it.

As for flat earth, again, we know it's not flat, specifically through visual observation as hard proof... We have sent rockets and satellites to space, and can see it's a sphere. We have also had planes, and ships do round the world trips, and not fall off the earth. So ye, it's based specifically because of observation. You're attacking a straw man once again, linking the 2.

[Kaneki05]

@pergamon300 it's not a claim it's a scientific fact that you are arguing therefore the burden of proof is on you.
And no that's proof from seeing since you've never observed that yourself, unless you've actually been to space you can't say youve seen the earth is not flat. That's the whole reason dumb people believe it in the first place. A plane proves nothing as the plane don't show the curve or a boat.

But hey since ya really dumb I will link you to proof that humans are animals not that I should need to. Because it's like linking you proof the earth is round.

[Kaneki05]

bio.libretexts.org/.../2.4%3A_The_Human_Animal
www.ucdavis.edu/.../humans-are-unique-not-exceptional-species-mammal
www.sciencefocus.com/.../are-humans-animals

[pergamon300]

@Kaneki05 Hahaha. Look, you can believe whatever you want, that's fine. But to come online and go to the effort telling people. ''No YoUr WrOnG BeCaUsE tHe ScIeNcE sO LOL'' and keep repeating that without actually being able to prove your claims yourself, and calling me dumb, just shows how much of a bumbling brainwashed dumb ass you are, and sheep. You can believe what you. But if you can't prove it yourself, and just keep relying on ''other have told me it's true'', just don't say anything. Believe it in private.

You also do realize ''the science'', meaning scientists and institutes, have been shown up to be wrong at times in the past? So saying ''Because science told me so, so you must be dumb, here's an article link, because I can't explain or prove it myself'', doesn't prove your argument at all, and shows that you're not bright. Again, science as in the observation and experimentation of things is great. So are many scientists out there. However blindly believing that scientists can never wrong, in other words putting them on God level, is just silly worship of humans that have been put on an unnecessary pedestal. But ye, keep up the non existent strawman argument of flat earth lol.

[Kaneki05]

@pergamon300 Gave you 3 good links not my fault you can't read and don't understand them. And have no links proving your points scientifically funny how that works ain't it?

[strateguy632]

somehow hunans got an extra pair of chromosomes so those without it stayed ape family. 46 chromosomes n 48 chromosomes.

[Curmudgeon]

Once again, it is time for "Undeniable Truth Of Life Number 23: Evolution, while definitely correct, does not and cannot explain Creation."

(Evolve from what primates and hominid apes? And exactly how? And why did Evolution take the paths it took with respect to primates and hominids?)

[strateguy632]

we never observed a non human give birth to a human! human can't start at any point in time!
they just guess because skeleton look alike. but muscles and skin are gone!

[Kaneki05]

We all originate from everything that's more the reality of it. So yeah but no if your talking did we just simply spawn one day from an ape lol.

[Bricealan]

Coach, watching some video of some very young, very beautiful Simian babies, being tended by loving human handlers, and these young ones are very 'child like' and have FOUR FINGERS AND AN OPPOSABLE THUMB. Their behavior is so similar to baby humans, in the way they explore things and people and are so lovable and 'clinging' to their care takers, it is difficult to NOT think they or their relatives could have been our predecessors.

[loveslongnails]

I believe there's a lot more going on in the universe than I know or understand. As it's been pointed out, humanoids and apes have a common ancestor, but what exactly does that mean? Hmm, there's a lot of missing parts here, and I sure don't know what they are.

[NathanDavis]

it's 2024...

why are people still asking this same question the same wrong way...

[FunkyMonkee]

We SURE AS HELL didn't come from Adam & Eve!

[Anpu23]

No I believe that apes and humans have a common ancestor. We didn't come from Apes common misconception

[strateguy632]

not misconception, real science in britanicca. so i am skeptical of science books. like you that is hard to swallow.

[Anpu23]

@strateguy632 again common misconception. There is a common ancestor by standard science: australian.museum/.../

[strateguy632]

my replies n link i put by aviator are relevant to you. you deny science too.
Greek pithekos "ape".

[strateguy632]

to @Anpu23
the common ancestor was ape... pithicus is the greek word pithikus ape... according to science... but i am happy you REJECT the idea we born from apes, "We didn't come from Apes" and same as you reject science so do i... NOT A BIG DEAL.

[strateguy632]

"Ardi-pithecus ramidus" in your own source said pithikus!

[CrabCakes11]

We are apes. All apes originated from a common ancestor

[TonyMetal___86]

Nope, we aren't apes, we similar to them and maybe 99% like chimps but we still are different and were capable to evolve!
No one actually knows the precise story of how humans had originated but for sure god made us special!

[Astarlessnightsky]

Sort of, todays monkeys, apes and humans have a common ancestor, which you could say was an ape, a primal ape.

[lightbulb27]

we are distant related, but not sure which came first... the ape or the human. and where did apes come from... dinosaurs?

[abc3643]

I believe in evolution. It's not hard to believe since it is as straightforward as addition.

[strateguy632]

straightforward? real evolution was NEVER observed beside micro evolution within same species.

[abc3643]

@strateguy632 Evolution is actually rather easy to understand.

It basically works like this... and this applies to anything - not just life.

If you have a system which:
1. Is physical; that it is subject to the laws of physics and
2. Has a memory component and
3. Accesses that memory to make copies of itself,
then that, over time, subsequent copies of the system will evolve - make gradual deviations from the original system.
Many of those copies will fail and not be able to make new copies, but some won't.

This is all because the ability to make copies is dependent on the physical memory of how to make the copies, but physical memory is always susceptible to random unexpected change. So, if the physical memory containing the instructions to make copies is altered, then the subsequent copies will be altered.

This sort of thing happens all the time and we have to engineer things to avoid this.

(more)

[abc3643]

I work in avionics and one thing we do is test our electronics and computer systems and software against electromagnetic disturbances like cosmic rays. One cosmic ray can change the value of a bit in computer memory and that bit may be an important bit toward keeping the plane flying safely. So, we have redundancy and "register refresh" to overwrite corrupted memory so the mistakes are eliminated. If there's too much corruption, alarms and warnings and such occur.

Well, life on Earth is just such an example of the system I outlined above but our DNA doesn't have "register refresh".

As for witnessing evolution, sure, we witness it all the time. You have a dog? Congratulations! You've witnessed evolution because dogs are evolved wolves where their evolution was sped up by deliberately human selection for breeding.

Also, as for witnessing, I'll let Spock speak more about this because he is right.
"If I let go of a hammer on a planet that has a positive gravity, I need not see it fall to know that it has, in fact, fallen."
Logic, mathematics, and physics... and evolution all work that way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DQzJNKJ6Ko

[strateguy632]

to abc that is WITHIN same species.
your faith is blinder than most religious people.

[abc3643]

@strateguy632 Um, yes, that's true... But that leads to new species as well including species that can cross-reproduce such as horses and donkeys to create mules; dogs and wolves, etc.

Google "Introgression".

This might help too.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8774782/

[strateguy632]

@abc3643 dogs and wolves? you think they are different? very ignorant! "dogs have 78 chromosomes (39 pairs), cats have 38 chromosomes (19 pairs), and so on. Domestic dogs have the same number of chromosomes as coyotes, dingoes, jackals, and wolves."
*beleif that a fish with 20 chromosomes had a frog with thirty chromosomes is not only blinder faith and more baseless than any religion but also impossible if you know how fertilization happens! unless.. god made a miracle.

[abc3643]

@strateguy632 Of course dogs and wolves are similar. Dogs evolved from wolves. You see? Evolution. That's how it works.

I am muting. Buh bye.

[jshm2]

Primates are not "apes".

It's also more likely species of humans devolved to apes

[slatyb]

Originated from as apes? We are apes. Humans diverged from chimpanzees about 5 million years ago.

[Dargil]

I believe the the ascent of life is the work of the Creator which uses successful templates to improve each strain. So yes and no.

[juliammm]

This is not a question of faith, it is a proven truth.

[Dongie]

No. It's theory, and Darwin renounced it himself before he died.

[juliammm]

@Dongie A theory with lots of evidence to support it.
It is a proven theory

[Dongie]

No, it is not proven. If it had been proven, all the atheists and devil worshipers would be screaming there is no God.

[Dongie]

It wouldn't be called a theory if it was a proven fact.

[juliammm]

@Dongie you should use a dictionary
www.amnh.org/.../what-is-a-theory

[Dongie]

Why?

[Dongie]

I figure a theory is a thinking process as what Einstein was called a theoretical physicist. It remains a theory until proof has been laid out for all to see. By the way, Einstein believed in God.

[Dongie]

Besides, I wouldn't believe the shit that liberals have fucked with. They even change history without a time machine.

[TommyMountainFigure]

Yes, considering we share 99% DNA with Chimps! I think it's 99% or there abouts

[strateguy632]

that is the deception until you see those 90% are scattered differently!

[strateguy632]

i made a mytake with screenshot, now that we are decoding genes.

[FreyaRed]

No, but apes and humans have same ancestors.

[DrPepper12]

Sure as hell wasn't Adam and Eve! Evolution is just logical and reasonable based on the available evidence.

[Dongie]

NO
Didn't the creator of that work of fiction renounce his own theory?

[TheRealPepperPotts]

Sometimes I do...

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Nope. Where is our tail then? People be believing whatever BS science says.

[DrPepper12]

Your tail develops in utero and then recedes.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@DrPepper12: LOL.. God exist man. Get over it.

[DrPepper12]

Tails exist. God doesn't

[strateguy632]

ooh but they said we came from tail less apes!

[4ngelic]

yea, and we're still monkeys

[strateguy632]

accurate "science" says "homosapien is a type of ape" even in britannica encyclopedia primates. of evolution i am skeptical.

[lokiloko]

Dayum, 50/50 polling. Education is not good enough.

[strateguy632]

huh? education does teach evolution...
but you don't expect them to FORCE people to believe history mislabeled as science!

[lokiloko]

@strateguy632 Oh yah here comes the ''fakes science propagand'' guy. I'm not gonna bother read what you're gonna reply with. I've seen it already..

[strateguy632]

see my link to aviator here. you are too closed minded to see i quoted the science you DENY... just as much as the people who you mock.

[Jamie05rhs]

The way some o' y'all act, yeah.

[Siri137]

No, of course not. Don't be silly :D

[IslaTheWitch]

not from apes... from a common ancestor...

[strateguy632]

but that ancestor is called... pithicus that means ape. non tailed ape.

[strateguy632]

i did some homework @islathewitch on britanicca page primates the picture is "apes include homosapiens!"
see for yourself i will try to load a screenshot.

[strateguy632]

www.britannica.com/.../71620

[strateguy632]

it takes 4 seconds to open from page to relevant picture.

[OfMiceandMen]

I believe in evolution.

[exitseven]

no. it is the other way around.

[OtterMan68]

did humans and apes originate from the same mammal

[Alex-Snow]

I have no reason to not believe it

[OfDeath]

Humans are apes in fact.

[AngryCarl]

It's possible. Our DNA is almost identical.

[strateguy632]

far froom identical just the same chemicals but different paterns.

[msc545]

Yes, of course.

[HurremSultan]

Yes we did

[MatureMan40]

No..