Have you ever seen these proofs against Jesus and his fake holy spirit and fake tongues?

[SeekerOfTruth007]

please watch this video in its entirety especially if you claim to be a muslim, christian, or jew or deist.

https://www.youtube.com/live/DQgwbh6hTOA?si=CMOwW-dD3o4uGgaW

[lightbulb27]

no and that ain't much to this guy. you could just as easily believe the eye witness and writings as you do this guy. you choose to believe his version.

why don't you believe what the spirit tells you when you hear what Christ said?

as Jesus said, some are his sheep... and some aren't.

ok. he doesn't want everyone... just the ones that have a heart.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

That's a completely false doctrine that Jesus made up in response to being rejected for falsely claiming to be God in the Flesh.

Everyone is created to worship and obey God. He does not make anyone inherently evil, and an unborn child cannot be guilty of breaking any of the commandments, soo the claim that God just made some people to be lost just to hate them is INSANE.

[lightbulb27]

If he made it up, he's a genius. "Everyone is created to worship and obey god"? Are you seeing that play out? The problem is the underlying energy controlling the behavior.
If you thought about the issue differently, you'll see a new angle. I have my view and could address most of those points... but there's no point if you won't listen... I doubt you are really seeking truth and if you are... from what viewpoint? Some things I don't claim to understand well, but I accept Christ salvation.
To me it isn't so complicated... but maybe I've over simplified it. I doubt you can find God by logic... and what is God anyways... in your view? I suspect you say, there is none.

There is no better offer out there...

[SeekerOfTruth007]

The Bible tells you elsewhere that God is not willing that anyone should perish, but that everyone should come to repentance. So God absolutely did NOT preordain anyone to go to Hell, even though people willfully reject God and do go to Hell. That is their own free moral agency choice to do wrong and reject and disobey God.

[lightbulb27]

that sounds right. Are you stumbling over the issue of whether an unborn 2 days old fertilized embryo goes to heaven or not?
you may be happy doing apologetics... I wasn't. I don't find peace, or a good world view in all that. God to me... is a very right brain activity, not a left one. Jesus put order to what is an emotional conection to that which made everything. That is... underlying energy.
It's at least a model of understanding.
I could not and never will find God (love) using logical reasoning. But some may try.
You have to explore the definitions of what God is, I think Jesus did well representing and in spirit and flesh. Others have tried...

[lightbulb27]

I spent time with a few lawyers whom did apologetics and it sucked the life out of me. I appreciate their brain power... and they were Christian, but it's not how I see the order of things. We relate using our strength, which is often left brain training dominant, but you have to experience with the right side... feeling emotion. Reading the core principles of Bible..."Genesis the fall of man"... is an emotional fall from state of peace, love, etc... to shame, fear, malice... etc.. It's a right brain emotional fall to me, one of disordera nd disconnection from that which made us.
Whether it's a model or what figure of speech, I'll leave to the individual to summize.

[strateguy632]

No. But why not YOU say which proofs seemd strong to you.

[normalice]

All of religion is fake so it's no surprise this would be, too.

[Anonymous]

Did you see the doctored videos of the new presidental contender!