Easy debunking of the Trinity and Divinity of Jesus. What do you think?

[SeekerOfTruth007]

John 3:16 claims Jesus was the "Only Begotten Son of God".

This is a lie for so many reasons.

1) Every Angel is called a "Son of God" elsewhere in the Bible and the Book of Enoch.

2) Jesus elsewhere claimed to have existed in eternity past with God, which is also a lie. Isaiah said there was no God before Jehovah, no God beside Jehovah, and no God after Jehovah. So there cannot be a Trinity.

3) A simple logical argument proves that God does not "clone" himself to produce an alleged Holy Trinity.

God cannot clone himself because the clone could never be the First Cause and could never be the True Creator. So it's not possible for God to "begat" a Son who is also God, as the Son would lack at least TWO Divine attributes of God. Same argument goes for the "Holy Spirit" member of the Trinity. The Holy Spirit would lack at least two divine attributes of God, being a Creation rather than the Creator.

So stop with this Divinity of Jesus nonsense and this "Trinity" nonsense. It's really annoying. I was brainwashed with this crap my entire life, and I am NOT going back to it no matter what you Christians say. What's worse, Christians do not obey the Biblical God anyway. Christians break all 613 commandments from the Torah and Prophets anyway. Christians of the Pauline conviction even claim the Law of God was done away with through the death of Jesus, which is preposterous because even Jesus himself said the opposite of that. So the entire "christian religion" is a self-contradictory lie.

[AmeerX]

Please just get out of this place.

Jesus Christ raised people from the dead, cured leprosy and Blind.
At least be more respectful to him.

Do you really want to argue about Jesus Christ? Council of Ephesus already answered your question. Jesus Christ is Son of God not by Nature, but by grace. He has been granted divine things. It doesn't matter if you believe in trinity or not. Holy Spirit is real, God is real and Jesus Christ is real and divine by God's Will.
He is our salvation and glory.

If we talk with your logic then LDS people are truthful. Jesus Christ is an Angel to them and Lucifer is his brother.

This is the beauty of Christ. You don't need hard and fast rigid rules to be His follower. You need to have faith in him. You can think he is not divine, fine with me. But then it makes you a Coptic Orthodox Church follower. They surely thought he was a man and persecuted by other Christians mainly Roman Empires. Schism in Christianity is a long issue but at least people are not killing each other like they used to for holding differing opinion of Christ

[strateguy632]

That is not debunking, that is making claims.

1, there can be levels of sons of god, in book job, a spirit lel of angels. Lower is israelites in book exodus but a different level the ONLY "begotten son" meaning one god in a trinity as the ancient creed specified.

2, AS THE CREED jesus is the same one god not "another god" so no conflict.

I mean you REALLY think no bible college professors noticed?

Then you don't "present as proof," but you call it "crap", which only described your own errors.

[strateguy632]

Your last 2 claims conflicted each other, answering the questions about commands.
If you know it why ask it?

[SeekerOfTruth007]

No word games here.

Jesus claimed to be the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON of God. Those words have specific meaning. BEGOTTEN means he was claiming to be produced by a sexual union of God with Mary. SON means he is claiming to be the male offspring of God.

He later CHANGED his claim and said that he was his own FATHER (GOD).

It is not possible for the Son of God to be co-equal with God, because God is past eternal and is the First Cause, but the Son of God can never be either of those things. So if God has a Son, the Son of God CANNOT claim to be equal to God nor can he claim to be his own FATHER as that is an obvious lie.

[strateguy632]

Sex? By a spirit? What is wrong with you?

[WintersDaughter]

Good job. re-state//background_color_rgba (0, 0, 0, 0), font_color_rgb (77, 77, 77), justifyLeft

[BarryLiverstone]

You did it. You debunked it!

[SeekerOfTruth007]

Well it's worse than people even realize. Elswhere, in John's "gospel', Jesus claimed to be God, even though he previously claimed to be only the Son of God. If "Begotten Son of God" means anything rational, then he was originally claiming to be a CREATED BEING from God. So then he later claimed to be ""God Himself" when he said, "Before Abraham was I AM."

So then the Jews called him a blasphemer and tried to stone him, and Jesus' "defense" of himself was to claim that everyone was "one or more gods". Which is an even bigger lie.

Christians flat out deny this, even though it is written right in their own fake Gospels and their own "apostles" not only admitted this, but thought they were making a "good argument" by admitting this.

Also, in one place, Jesus denied knowing when the End of the Age would be, even though he elsewhere claimed to be God. He also denied having the authority to tell the disciples who would sit where in Heaven, even though he claimed to be God. Which just means he was a liar and a false prophet either way.

[BarryLiverstone]

Wow. So really everyone should stop believing in Jesus.

What should they believe in instead?

[SeekerOfTruth007]

You should believe in a Deistic Scientific God, not a book of fairy tales.

In my latest video, I debunked most of the Torah and Prophets too, by simply proving that nobody should worship the God of David and the Ark of the Covenant. Whatever that is, it is not loving at all, and is not worthy of anyone's worship. In the story, the "god" kills Uziah and Jonas and Jambres just because they make the slightest of mistakes in the presence of the Ark; using the wrong fire on an altar and accidentally touching the Ark. This is of course a stupid fable, but nobody should believe this crap. It actually comes from a much older Egyptian religion and myth anyway.

[BarryLiverstone]

We will now all worship the Deistic Science God. You are a saint sir!

[strateguy632]

To @SeekerOfTruth007 adding the word "only the son" is not seeking truth. He was not only the son. He was " the only son"