Why do religious people get so excited when somebody famous converts to their cult?

[Anonymous]

They feel more certain their religion is true

They are happy that person is going to heaven

[malarkey]

I've never seen that before, but I'd say it's interesting to observe Christian/Messianic Jew apologetics due to the strong logical arguments that are made. Those arguments at times lead to people finding truth in those arguments which occasionally leads to conversion from one religion to another. So, there is a certain amount of satisfaction that comes with people arriving at truth after lengthy debate. When people were wrong, but through discussion and debate can walk through their faults, see them, understand them, and acknowledge them and then agree upon the truth with others after testing arguments it's satisfying on some level. As Jesus said, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me". It's about help people get to the truth, not about acquiring "famous" person. I don't care if it's some smelly bum on the street, if they can show good judgement and logic walking though debate and arrive at truth, then it's good to see.

[Asker]

there are far more logical arguments against religions than for them

[malarkey]

Sure there are plenty of logical arguments against many different religions. That's why they all fold before the arguments of Christianity/Messianic Judaism. I assume you're an a-theist which depends on the morality from theism, primarily Christianity to rebel against in your adherence to the cult of reason. That in itself makes you religious. You're part of a cult... and even your cult members that have done their due diligence support the argument that Jesus really existed. There's too much evidence to deny the claim.

https://www. youtube. com/watch? v=O5mw8aIky84

[malarkey]

https://www. youtube. com/watch? v=lDRv1uJvRKE

[Asker]

well you're an atheist too in a way, you don't believe in any other god but Jehovah

[malarkey]

Theism is the "belief in the existence of God". The Old English intensive a-, originally ar- (cognate with German er-) means to "motion away from"; to leave; to abandon. So to be an a-theist, you have to leave theism. That means you have to be close to it in some way as in you were previously a believer in God that lost your faith or possibly you were raised in it's surroundings like in a nation such as the United States that was founded on Judeo-Christian morality and then rebel against God (God's law). So no, while I might not be the most devote worshiper in existence, I've believed in God as far back as I can remember.

[malarkey]

*then

[Asker]

my point is you know what it's like to be an atheist because you disbelieve in many gods others believe in. it's not that bad, is it?

[malarkey]

Nope, I don't know what it's like to disbelieve in the truth. I see Democrats on here and across the inter every day doing it, and it never gets any easier to watch. For example here is a BlueAnon that thinks you guys finally caught Trump even though Trump was the one that signed that Executive Order and told everyone if they cheat this election, they will go to jail. The BlueAnon is just discovering the Executive Order that Anons that follow Q have known about for many years. She can't fathom the truth of the situation and what it means for her party, but clings tightly to a false interpretation of the facts despite the evidence. It's hard to watch.

https:// x. com/_johnnymaga/status/1874217548834890027? mx=2

[malarkey]

*internet

[malarkey]

It's so simple to just examine the facts... For example:

https://www. presidency. ucsb. edu/documents/executive-order-13848-imposing-certain-sanctions-the-event-foreign-interference-united

and then you can look up how Biden reauthorized that executive order multiple times. Yet, the BlueAnon Satanic Democrat rebels against the TRUTH to believe a lie. While I don't understand why people behave like that, I can't say I haven't seen it. That's what it is like watching a Muslim or Atheist rebel against God.

[malarkey]

I'm not trying to make the conversation political, just trying to create an analogy that demonstrates the zeal of nonbelievers of the truth. It's comprehensible how people can be given the truth, yet turn against it and go the opposite direction with fervor.

[malarkey]

*incomprehensible

[malarkey]

When people like that who are so misguided, actually walk through the evidence and make a break through and realize the truth of the matter and are like oh I see now... Wow that's interesting I didn't see it that way before, OK that is what is really happening... That's satisfying. It's not about being right, it's not about winning, and it's not about glory... it's about seeing someone who was lost, understand the truth. It's like what a scientist feels when he makes a discovery and it is repeatable truth. It's like the feeling a teacher gets when their student finally understands a concept and can now explain it well enough to teach it to others. It makes you feel proud of them, to have faith in humanity... That's what is is like to see someone convert to a religion that believe in the truth... Like I mentioned earlier Jesus said, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me". We're all in search of truth.

[malarkey]

https://www. youtube. com/watch? v=jb2ggj9mKM0

[Asker]

you know everybody thinks they believe the truth, right

[malarkey]

I guess you missed the entire part about evidence... Just as there is evidence that Trump signed the original Executive Order for the election fraud situation that the BlueAnon denies to believe in her own fictitious delusion, there is evidence that historic Jesus existed. Even atheists academic historians like Bart Ehrman concede that Jesus was a real person and that the historic evidence is strong. Like I said even atheists that have done their due diligence know that Jesus is real. They may interpret some of the eye witness testimony in different ways and come to disagreements, but they admit Jesus is real. There is too much supporting evidence to deny it when you actually conduct thorough research.

[Asker]

ok and everybody believes they have evidence. I've seen many muslims swear the quran contains indisputable miracles. and pagans in greece swore zeus was real because lightning struck the temple his statue was in during a ceremony

[malarkey]

I didn't use my sources to prove my point, I gave you an atheist to reference. You're an atheist, you should at least consider the arguments of people from your own religion... If you have a problem with Bart Ehrman's research, then disprove him, don't run to Islam or the Greek pantheon. Go read:

Did Jesus Exist?: The Historical Argument for Jesus of Nazareth

Here's a link to his book in epub format

https://download. library. gift/main/835000/9cad01c61f7bc007a330935428d91030/Bart%20D.%20Ehrman%20-%20Did%20Jesus%20Exist__%20The%20Historical%20Argument%20for%20Jesus%20of%20Nazareth-HarperOne%20%282012%29. epub

[malarkey]

here pdf link

https://jumpshare. com/s/n63zIvTbozPIIa7ip6vE

[Asker]

You're an atheist too. in another context, when talking about Hindu gods you don't believe in them. Why am I automatically atheist cuz I don't believe what you believe

[malarkey]

I was never close to Hindu gods, so how could I "move away from them", leave them, or abandon them?

[malarkey]

And as to your earlier claim that "you know everybody thinks they believe the truth, right", this is also a falsehood. It shows how little you know about religion. You atheist make a habit of being ignorant. For example, Muslims believe Allah is the greatest deceiver. In the Bible Satan is the deceiver of the whole world. Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. This is exactly what the Allah of the Quran claims to be and in hadith he supposedly sends the angel "Gabriel" to communicate with Muhammad, he even has a false apostle Muhammad (Baphomet) just like the Bible says he will in 2 Corinthians 11:13-15. The Muslims do not believe Allah is the truth like Jesus, they believe only Allah "guides to the truth". They believe Allah is "on the path", they do not believe "Allah is the path" like Jesus. If you actually study religions, you will discover that everyone does not think they believe the truth. Specifically in Islam, they are submitting themselves into the service of their Allah (Satan), to serve as slaves in his army that is charging toward Jesus for the final confrontation between good and evil. That is what Islam teaches, but most people do not even study their own religion, let alone others. I can tell you, his army has already been defeated and they suffer immensely.

[malarkey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPwYLg33XRQ

[jshm2]

Your question is moot and stupid. Also, it can either be a religion, or a cult - not both.

But on the base of recruitment, it's little different from when a player from a different team signs up to play for your team. You hope for bigger and better things.

[strateguy632]

No n no! You missed the point.

It shows it has convinced claims, plus famously means fans will NOTICE it has good claims that succeed at convinced people.

[Astarlessnightsky]

Someone famous means lots of money.

[BarryLiverstone]

Which cult?