Not to come off rude or anything but how did you find out you are atheists and what led up to it?
Anonymous(18-24)1 yEven though I struggle with severe doubts (after experiencing the deaths of some relatives and people I knew and studying how the human body works from a biological perspective) about the existence of a god, or an afterlife, atheism as a position have always seemed a bit too absolute to me.. Most atheists speak with mathematical certainty that god is just fiction or mythology born out of ignorance/fear of the unknown and used as a drug to control the masses, yet they fail to produce the necessary evidence to substantiate their claim, other than their own conviction.
Until any side produces compelling evidence, I'll remain in the middle, here in the position of agnosticism, waiting and leaving room to reexamine/reconsider my position, maybe some day in the future. Of course, I'd prefer if God does exist, cause reuniting with your beloved ones after death sounds way better than an eternal void
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Asker1 yWell I think being open minded to both sides is grate. I agree reuniting with loved after death dose sound lovely
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1 yjust never got indoctrinated into it so i never really believed
i feel like faith is about feeling and your relationship with that entity you believe you in. there just never was that for me and im fine with it35 Reply
Asker1 yhmm 🤔 makes sense
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are you religious
Asker1 yYes I am but I don't push religion onto others
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do you feel like it's helped you grow as a person
Asker1 yIn a way yes
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I didn't make a concious decision to become an athiest.
I was raised as a Christian, and my parents took me to church every Sunday. When I was about seven years old, I realized that the whole thing was a bunch of crap, and I never believed it. I just went, 'cause they made me.
Everyone kept telling me these stories about God, Jesus, Moses, etc, read me all the Bible stories, and I just sat there thinking, "Are they serious? I've read Dr Seuss stories more realistic than this garbage."
It just never made sense to me that all these people, all these adults, believed that nonsense. I didn't understand how that was possible. I kept waiting for someone, anyone, to prove ANY of it, and nobody ever did.
They told me I had to have faith, and I didn't understand how religion was any different that Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, or the Tooth Fairy. I didn't believe in them, either, and I didn't see how any of these people could believe in God.
So, at the ripe old age of seven years old, I begged my parents not to make me go to church anymore, because it was just soooo dumb to me. It's been 33 years since then, and I've never seen/heard anything to make me change my mind.
30 ReplyTechnically agnostic, like most aethists, but for most intents and purposes aethist.
In my case I didn't grow up being taught to be or not be religious. I had friends and family of every faith. Around 11-13 I read the bible, old, new, added scriptures, had a muslim friend pick out which parts of the quran to read. Read some, not all, of the Torah for good measure. Spoke to quite a few priests - we lived next to one.
Having already done that I hopped into Hinduism and Buddhism too for good measure. Then, having gone through the big five looked into a bunch of lesser ones.
And at the end of it none of it spoke to me. Oh, most of them have good life lessons and sensible guiding lines. Nice philosophical questions and more. But so does most philosopher's and children stories.
I suppose in short I did my research. Decided there was nothing to it. Even if there had been how do I tell if it is that god or one of the other 400 ones that is right? Every believer believes theirs is right but the vast majority just believe whatever the dominant faith of their upbringing is. At that if everything points to indoctrination, it likely is indoctrination. Whigh does not make it bad by default, our entire society is made up of rules like that. However it does make it made up.13 Reply- 1 y
To anyone looking through thw answers and noticing nearly all aethists studied religion. Aethists as a group score the highest in knowledge of the religions local to their region. Yes, the people decising not to believe habitually know the religion better than those who do believe when tested.
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Score? On what test? Lol
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Pretty much every single one! But assuming you are American Pew has one here for example www.pewresearch.org/.../
The gist? Christians 45% accurate, aethist and agnostic 85%. Granted this did include more religions than just Christianity but even when limiting the scope christians still underperform.
Notably Jewish people do well too. Which is reasonable given they tend to actually have exams on their theism. You are naturally very welcome to offer any evidence to the contrary, but its just normal that people critical of something become more educated on it.
612 opinions shared on Religion & Spirituality topic. It's millions of reasons really. So I'll list a few.
1. The obvious one, no factual evidence exists and there is reason why it's called faith because it's hoping that Religion wasn't just a lie created by man without any evidence to say otherwise.
2. Humans lie linking to the first point, common sense people lie for power and control which history clearly shows religion's become cults and organisations that put people in power and control of society. Therefore the reason to lie about god and religion for own gain becomes obvious.
3. The paradox of perfection, nothing is perfect. Perfect is a perception we make, everyone has their own view of what's perfect. Therefore if perfect don't exist as an objective fact, a perfect entity such as god can't exist. It would be a constant paradox.
4. Now this point is highly subjective to the human and my perspective so I take this one more as a grain of salt, but still would make me opposed god. If god exists and he's so smart, loving and ya... know perfect as they claim why on earth would he create a world like this? A world full of misery? Starving kids? Cancer? Diseases? And remember the idea of god is he can do anything including ya know stopping whatever causes such things so we can't blame anything else for why this happens unlike god is powerless to it somehow.
Now why this is subjective to our view is perhaps for whatever reason god see's these things as good or needed since he's on a complete different level of understanding to us of course. However this only makes me dislike god if true because I'm a human of course living within this world filled with bad things he made on purpose and sure it's only bad to us I guess but that's actually to no shocker what I have to care about.
Like I said this a few, there is vastly more reasons why and I'd be here all day so ending my point now.
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1 yAtheists tend to be more logic, reasonable, they don't believe stories that sound more like fantasies.
Well, they have a point, especially when they were introduced to non sense religions in their past, religions were altered by man, ...
Look around u and u will see miracles everywhere, look inside u, ur biology, anatomy, I mean who could create something complicated like that , after thousands of years humans couldn't find any explanations, they couldn't cure some diseases, then who made us?
In my belief, only one religion that talks to people's minds and brains, it's more logical than the humans logic, reasonable, highlights proofs that God exists, challenges people to challenge God and creat one small fly 🪰 which apparently they can't. It also invites people to be good with each others, organise their lives...
The problem is some people don't want to change the way they're living, they don't want to be controlled by a religion, they don't wanna follow rules, they like the chaos, like to be drawn in desires like animals do.
Well u can't blame animals because they don't have logic 🤷
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"who could create something complicated like that?" That's the "God of the Gaps": "I don't know, so it must be God." The question is improper as it assumes the answer you are trying to support. The correct question is "How did all this come to be?" and we know a great deal of that story. Even if you believe that the universe was created by some higher consciousness, you're left with the question "What created that consciousness?"
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What makes u think god is consciousness? I mean this is what our minds can reach, there could be more than a consciousness, but regarding the information we received from god through the messengers, that's all we know
When u meet him u can ask him
This existence, these creatures, this universe, these r not a coincidence nor an evolution 👍🏻 - 1 y
What was the point of that? We don't receive any information from God, only from people claiming to speak for God, with not one bit of evidence to support their claim. I'm a prophet too and God says that he doesn't give a shit about people, there's no afterlife, you are all on your own.
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Well, you have a brain to think with, if you're convinced this whole world with those amazing creatures that u can see with your own eyes came from nothing then you are not using it properly, no offense.
You do realize some discoveries in our time were mentioned in my religion 1440 years ago, from god, and yet lots to be discovered in the future that already mentioned but we can't explain it until it gets discovered, we don't know what it means until we know, how do I explain it, a miracle.
And you atheists think you live in peace while u spend ur time arguing about the existence of god which is proof of his existence the arguing I mean, otherwise, u wouldn't give a shit about it and ignored it presuming believers r crazy people who don't deserve ur time but u can't 👍🏻
And by the way we argue because we feel sad for u that you're lost and gonna end up in hell, we have no self-interest if u r a believer or not but it's a duty to inform those who haven't been informed and I hope you find your way ✌🏻 - 1 y
Right, as soon as we learn something new, you search your religious book to find something somewhere that appears to be slightly related. But your religious book never tells us anything useful. Threatening me with the hell that doesn't exist except in your mind? You may as well tell me that Santa Claus isn't going to bring me any presents.
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Not slightly related but exactly true, the thing is humans couldn't discover it until they had modern technology tools after 1400 years, science proved it, which means whoever told those words in my religious book definitely can't be a human but the god, unless u know someone who can predict the exact future for 1400 years and more to come then we'll discuss that.
My religious book tells every useful thing that guarantees the best calm peaceful fair happy life for humans, but non-believers don't want that because they have self-interests worth trillions. For example, liquor destroys ur liver, destroys ur brain, makes u behave like an animal driven by desires, and nothing useful in it, it's forbidden in my religion, u get the idea
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Take this as an example
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1ArE8KQHpU/ - 1 y
https://youtu.be/T6xoYTfB7ig?si=tyQmUn0f8fCWh2lW
U can search as much as u want on the internet about the miracles of Quran if u r interested
2.6K opinions shared on Religion & Spirituality topic. People don't "find out" that they are atheists. They realize that there is no evidence to support any religion. I was taken to Baptist Sunday School as a child, but I could never make sense of it. Then when I was 10 I read a Time-Life book on world religions. I thought to myself "Each thinks they have the truth and the others are wrong. There's only one reasonable answer -- they are all just myths." And that was it for me. I realized that there's no evidence for God, and at about 12 I stopped going. I've never looked back, never reconsidered because there's still no evidence.
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Asker1 yOk well what age were you when you realized it?
Asker1 ySorry I see your answer ignore that question
1 yNot 100% sure what atheist is but there is so many religions to choose from and taking the time to research them all is just something I can't do or rather don't allow time for but I do think there is something Devine out there but I also think that there is credibility to other spiritual things as well. I have no problem with anything people believe so long as they don't press it on me as if its xxxxx way or no other way.
I often ask questions to religious people that for me is just a question but they sometimes take offence or are just closed minded where as I am able to see the good things from most beliefs and relate to them
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So DON'T study ALL just the ones that ATTRACTED MILLIONS of followers... then exclude the ones that spread using fear sword and inquisition and only one major religion remains with more than 1.6 billion people and convincing more each year.
@strateguy632 what one is that?
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1 yreading the bible in full made me an atheist. cause it's all a bunch of incoherent and morally indefensible bullshit. it's not all bad but i can derive better morals without that religion. plus i don't like that vein sort of egocentric maniac of a god they have in that faith. and if you deal with a few other faiths out there you find it's all pretty much the same bullshit with little variety. all claiming there's some all powerfull but unknowable being that somehow makes it such that you should listen to what they're telling you. a pretty cheap scam in my opinion.
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Asker1 yYou read the whole Bible? that impressive that's 66 books in one big book. Did you do this at a young age?
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yeah i was 16. i did that in the scope of the confirmation time. I don't know if you have that in your society but it's when you enter the realm of adulthood through bible study. you go to church and learn about god in that time and you spend time with other kids in your position and the priests of your village or town with lots of acutally fun activities too. and to me just nothing of it made any sense and any answer to my critical questions was "you just have to believe" instead of logically coherent answers that did not include forcefully deluding myself and ignoring the truth.
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have you ever heard a priest say "you're not reading the paragraph right, it means this and that"? fuck that. it's bullshit. if this is "the devine word of god meant for me to find him, follow him and love him", i don't need a professional scholar of delusion to read the text. it's all a bunch of quackery.
Asker1 yAS a teen I was in the youth group
Asker1 yNo I never herd my priest tell me I wasn't reading it right
That is like asking: "What made you wingless?" ...
You're asking why I don't have something I never had.
When I was a kid and I first learnt about religion, I immediately wrote it off as a joke. I thought "No way would anyone seriously believe anything so stupid". I was about 5 when I thought that. And when I learnt people really do believe in magic sky-daddies and books of insane bullsh! t... it turned my life into a horror story. By age 7 I was terrified of religious people as they seemed so completely out of touch with reality that they could do just about anything...
While I've learnt not to be so afraid of the religious (and society has become MORE afraid of them), I still regard all of them with disgust and avoid them wherever possible.20 Reply
1 yThe hypocrisy of the christian church. The religion that boasts to be the most loving and forgiving is simultaneously the loudest voice against social progress, refusing to acknowledge certain groups as people if they don’t fall into their specific lifestyle. When I started to ask questions about why this was, I didn’t like the answers I received.
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Asker1 yWhat age was that?
About 14
1 yI don't think the onus should be on proving something doesn't exist, but rather proof that something does.
With all these religions floating around, how do you know yours is the right one?
Also, because religion has been around forever in different forms but always has the sole purpose of controlling people and making money.21 Reply
Asker1 yI agree with the first part you said
1 yFor me it was when my religious rituals and rites started to make logical sense. I saw that what we were doing in the name of God was just to live in a certain lifestyle that was common sense in those times. For example: most of our festivals were based on harvest, new crop etc. So the "religious" offering was also based on the season and harvest. Which made sense. It had nothing to do with God.
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Asker1 ySo you used to believe in God?
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I did. I used to blindly follow what the rest of the community did. All the rites, all the customs, all their rituals. Till someone told me what and why we did what we did, and God had nothing to do with it. It was just a lifestyle of "those" days. Turns out religion was open to evolve and religious books and discourse was open to interpretation. Blind faith on anything is never a good thing.
1 yBeing rejected by both sides of my "family". Never being accepted by anyone especially my parents. All of my relatives hating me because my grandfather was in the military. My teachers bullying me. Never being in a relationship with a woman. My own research into religions. I know the Bible and Quran and the Torah are lies. Jesus and Mohammed were frauds and that If there truly is a creator being we're nothing more than ants in an ant farm. We mean nothing to it. Or it's completely evil.
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Asker1 yOh wow!
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u 1 yNot an atheist. I toyed around with being an agnostic in high school, but I was just trying to be cool and edgy or something goofy like that.
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1 yPeople usually join atheist when they notice, that they don't know any proof about god, and are swayed by peer pressure and mocking.
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Anonymous(25-29)1 yThe fact that a virgin woman has no chance of giving birth pushed me to become an atheist. I am also a virgin now, but why can't I give birth?
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But you can kuz biology never said "only conception is possible" it just explained conception. You mean when you believed in god , who can do anything, you stopped believed, kuz god can't? That is not logic.
Opinion Owner1 yI am currently a virgin, so why can't I get pregnant? Please explain this first.
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1 yLogic.
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Asker1 yok when did you first notice you were one?
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I probably started questioning it when I was in the Lutheran school for my first 4 years.
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