Why are so many Episcopalians & Anglicans now becoming Catholics. Do you know any Catholic Converts?

[Gwendoline]

The ones that I know that have converted to Catholicism talk of the Anglican & episcopalian churches in Britain & America becoming too woke with LGBTQ clergy and those that support the LGBTQ and bishops that believe in Abortion as well as having female bishops and reverend that are more intrested in promoting feminist ideology than the Gospel. An infiltration of non-belivers into Anglican church. Actually reminds me of the Anglican bishop a few years back that came out as agnostic, how can you be a Christian Bishop & not believe in God.

Regardless we welcome these wayward Protestants back into God's one Catholic Apostolic church.

[Cidknee]

What does these things mean to you Gwen?


Then the angel carried me away by the Spirit to the desert. There I saw a woman sitting on a red beast. The beast was covered with evil names. It had seven heads and ten horns. 4 The woman was dressed in purple and red. She was shining with the gold, jewels, and pearls that she was wearing. She had a golden cup in her hand. This cup was filled with terribly evil things and the filth of her sexual sin. 5 She had a title written on her forehead. This title has a hidden meaning. This is what was written:
the great babylon

mother of prostitutes

and the evil things of the earth

Seven heads For the seven hills.

[Gwendoline]

I suppose the whore represents ungodly worshippers and the beast with its multiple heads represents the many religions of the antichrist supported by many leaders in a great empire.

[Cidknee]

But it speaks of a fallen church. Where is the headquarters of Catholicism? Rome, city of 7 hills. Im not bashing Catholics but the hierarchy is very tainted.

[Gwendoline]

From the Catholic point of view it could speak of the seven branches of prodestantism Lutheran, Calvinist/Reformed, Anglican, Baptist, Methodist, Pentecostal, and Anabaptist. Fallen churches. The new Roman Empire? That could be America.

[Cidknee]

7 hills is what it says. I'm not a member of any of those but the colors also speak of Catholicism.

[Gwendoline]

Seven heads for seven hills. Where would the great babylon be today?

[Cidknee]

Vatican City.

[Gwendoline]

Maybe L. A., Newyork, Washington DC. Which one of these does not draw parallels to the biblical babylon?

[Cidknee]

How so?

[Cidknee]

Maybe DC with its corrupt politicians.

[Cidknee]

Haven't you ever heard about Satan infiltrating the church many centuries ago?

[Cidknee]

I would that you don't take it personally. It's not me that makes them the whore of Babylon. The verses speaking of the 2 sisters one the bride the other fallen. Or something like that.

[Gwendoline]

Every wicked thing that babylon is described as having you will find in a city like L. A. or New York. And a new Rome or Roman Empire? If you've ever walked through Washington DC the similarities are unmistakable. Even has an eagle as its symbol of power.
I dont take it personally. I've seen tv evangelists

[Cidknee]

Ok. How about praying to saints? Praying to Mary? Referring to the pope as Holy Father. The Father God is the Holy Father.

[Gwendoline]

Not really praying to but more like asking Mary the mother of Jesus, or the saints or martyrs of the church to pray to God for us. For instance I could ask you to pray for me. Holy Father is more of a title that signifies leadership of the Christian Church on earth as the Bishop of Rome which goes back nearly 2000 years to St Peter.

[Cidknee]

When talking of the faults of the fallen it refers to the practice of praying TO. The last pope sure was full of his self worth. Very liberal. The basement is decorated very oddly. The shape of a giant snake. Do you not know that the hierarchy could be Satanist? With the rest blindly following, believing otherwise?
There are too many pinpoint descriptions, EVERY description fits. Right down to the colors red and purple. Do you suppose God wanted the church to be under suspension of being this harlot while it's actually another?

[Gwendoline]

If you refer to the priests vestments then you know the colours change depending on the time of year and have meaning. For instance green for ordinary time. Red for pentecost and confirmation. White or Gold for Christmas and Easter Sunday. Purple or violet leng or advent. Rose for Gaudette Sunday. Blue for the feast of the immaculate conception though i have never seen a priest wear blue.
Know nothing about the basement but if its built anytime between 1970 and the present then its probably ugly.
If the Vatican is satanist then certainly most of the prodestant churches are. You can't tell me the path of the Anglicans and episcopalians and some of the other prodestant churches that have gay marraige and approve of abortion are still righteous.

[Gwendoline]

Also purple was the colour of emperors of the roman empire. Red was the colour of wealth, rman soldiers and kings in thd time of Jesus and the apostles.

[Cidknee]

So you feel that Revelation is about the times that it was penned by John?

[Gwendoline]

The symbolism is quite clear. From the woman, the mention of babylon, dressed in, tye beast, the 7 heads red & purple etc.

[Cidknee]

Those items fit today. John tells us that he went in the spirit to Heaven. He saw many things. I think the Arc was spotted. If you believe that God, Jesus is capable of these things like bringing John TO Heaven then naturally it is what John said it is, prophecy of the end days. Going by Revelation we really couldn't be much closer to Christ's return. I didn't come to this out of spite. I have Catholic friends. It's just obvious. I didn't hear a preacher say this. My pastor will NOT speak on this subject. I felt it pissed him off that I spoke of it. Methodist
I'm sorry if I offend you. It's all interesting to me. I've studied it since February of 1984.

[Gwendoline]

The prophecy is cryptic but im sure when it comes to pass the meaning will be quite clear.
Many think the beast is a representation of Nero whos name is also 666 in hebrew. He also wore red and purple.

Matthew 24:36
36 The Day and Hour Unknown. “As for the exact day and hour, no one knows, neither the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.

Catholics these days tend to favour this worse rather than concern ourselves too much with doomsday and days spoken of in revelation, probably because doomsday has been near for nearly 2000 years. Attila the hun, genesis khan, justinan's plague, the muslim conquests, the vikings, the black death, WW1, WW2, the cold War... rather we prefer to have faith in the lord and try to live like Jesus.

[Cidknee]

I'd rather be seeing him.

[Cidknee]

The Blessed Hope. That's my focus for near 43 years.

[Red_Arrow]

Episcopal and Anglican beliefs and ceremonies are basically the same, and are similar in may ways to the Catholic faith. I attended a wedding at a Catholic church and people who knew me were surprised that I followed the ceremony so well (knowing which prayers, when to stand, when to sit, etc.). Very similar. A major difference is that the Catholic faith does not officially allow women to become clergy, though women do attain that in some places. The Episcopal and Anglican churches have had women clergy for a long time.

I know many Episcopalians, but have never known even one that became Catholic.

[Rena4]

Religious people lost me. A few years ago, a pastor in Texas, Dillon Awes, was advocating for executing the LGBT, and I was also disowned by my family.

[Gwendoline]

You were in the wrong church.

[Rena4]

This was in the news. And tiktok.

[strateguy632]

You can’t group, for one pastor, all Christians.

[Paige90]

Catholicism has some non-biblical beliefs so I don't agree with a lot of things they believe in

[Gwendoline]

Such as?

[Paige90]

@gwendoline Mary was sinless

[strateguy632]

To @paige90 nailed it, you found a self contradiction b because they emphasized original sin.

[strateguy632]

To @gwendoline "such as" in mathew 23, "8 all ye are brethren. 9 And call no man your FATHERS upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven." 8 also teaches no level hierarchy.

[Gwendoline]

@strateguy632 1 John 2:12
12 I am writing to you, dear children,
because your sins have been forgiven on account of his name.

Corinthians 4:15
15 Even if you had ten thousand guardians in Christ, you do not have many fathers, for in Christ Jesus I became your father through the gospel.

[strateguy632]

So your quotes, john was after jesus paid, not forgave mary before jesus was born. Corinthians refuted calling a preist* "father".

[strateguy632]

"you do not have many fathers," so don’t!

[strateguy632]

If that was their goal, then no change.

https://uscatholic.org/articles/202509/the-pilgrimage-for-lgbtq-catholics-was-a-celebration-of-belonging/

If as you wrote "LGBTQ clergy" bothers you, time to exit catholic.

https://www.ncronline.org/vatican/vatican-news/vatican-approves-document-allowing-gay-men-become-priests-italy

[Gwendoline]

The Pope says its ok as long as they aren't practicing their faggotry.

[strateguy632]

Also you isolated or "cherry picked" 1/8 of the change, some Anglican did join catholic, but in contrast to last years stat, Last year for each one joining catholic SEVEN left catholic , but now MORE left for each one joining, as you isolated Anglican, bigger loss, 8.4 left Catholicism , that has " lost 8.4 people for every person it has gained through ‘religious switching’ in the U. S."
About switch, , a vast number of believers, change, i mean atheists wonder if religious people think for themselves, but we see 34% and now 35% did switch faiths, they thought and changed.

[strateguy632]

If pope said its okay, how is it different from anglican archbishop?

[AviatorTom]

Anglican (UK) and Episcopalian (US) churches have the same religious beliefs and ceremonies as Roman Catholics, so it's easy for someone to convert from one to the other. For conservatives, Catholicism might be the better choice, being less woke.

[Med_guy1978]

As Anglicans are moving more liberal, the conservative fraction want to preserve traditional practice so many are joining the Orthodox church or Roman Catholic church. A still more traditional conservative stand point.

[Gwendoline]

The must be losing most of their members because I've never met an Anglican or episcopalian you could consider as liberal.

[Med_guy1978]

Here in England plenty. Liberal in the sense of example... Female Priests and allowing gay marriage ceremonies.

[Cubus]

There's a lot in New England

[Gwendoline]

I mean the parishioners. The Anglican church is by in large an extension of the British government, establishment and monarchy

[Med_guy1978]

I agree 💯

[Med_guy1978]

The Anglican church is an extension or better said a spiritual wing of the English empire but as is the Roman Catholic church of the Roman empire, Islam of the Arab empire, ... That's why I'm a little sceptical about religions (religious organisations). I'm not denouncing Christianity or any religion ☯️ but I believe certain countries and empires hijack God and all things holy and slightly modify them to control people. Examples, Zionist leaning Christian groups who are prepared to self sacrifice for the preservation of Israel. Or Islam who says convert a few people and you go to heaven and if you die for Islam you will be rewarded with 40 virgins in heaven. I think people misinterpret religion and they are wrongly taught.

[Anonymous]

this has always been one of my worries about the church being watered down

if they can infiltrate entertainment, academia, government and social media

they can definitely infiltrate the church

[Gwendoline]

I think thats thd intent here. The Anglican church is really an extension of the British government has been since its founding with the reigning monarch its head. I think its similar if not the same with the Episcopalians.

[Sevenpointfive]

it's just a job. i stopped believing around 11. i would never want that job.

[Gwendoline]

Like the prodigal son you are always welcome back.

[Sevenpointfive]

i'd sooner believe that god was an alien.

[Gwendoline]

Not to worry, he still believes in you 🙏

[Sevenpointfive]

i'm real. there's no reason for him to not believe.

[LiamJHayden]

A lot of Episcopalian/Anglican congregarions have strayed far from the faith. The liturgical structure of Catholicism is familiar.

[Cubus]

Because Anglicanism is probably the Protestant denomination that is the closest to Catholicism. People dont want a copy, people want original

[KostasKouvalis]

Sounds like you answered your own question. They finally saw the light and the truth

[Sal_Monella]

One reason. Their tradition is founded on sin. Episcopalians like the liturgy, but not the doctrines.

[Anonymous]

Agnostics doesn't mean one doesn't believe in god. It just means they are not committed to any particular religion.

[Gwendoline]

How can a Christian bishop not be committed to any particular religion?
An agnostic Christian believes God may exist or may not exist. Theyve no faith.

[Opinion Owner]

A Christian agnostic identifies with Christianity but maintains an agnostic outlook, believing that while God or a higher power may exist, human knowledge of the divine is limited and divine revelation is uncertain. They are drawn to Christian teachings and practices but reject biblical infallibility and are unsure if Christianity is the absolute truth. Some see Christianity as a philosophical or ethical path, a guide for creating a better world, rather than a definitive truth about God.

[Gwendoline]

Think about it now, a Christian bishop without faith.

[fivebyfour]

I was Catholic, now studying to become a JW,,,

PM open to anyone curious about the truth of the Bible, not sure if the Bible is the truth in itself by the way,,,

[Gwendoline]

Yiu are always welcome back to the faith. If you ever need a blood transfusion

[fivebyfour]

Thanks! yes that's one thing I just don't get,,,

[dougeats]

its the other way around by me.