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No. God is not your pillow to cry on. God is sovereign. You are here to honor and obey God in all things.
That's what's wrong with liberals the world over. They are primarily atheistic or agnostic, and don't believe in real morals or responsibilities, which is why they can so easily murder their own children through abortion or so easily become homosexual or trans-sexual, etc, when God has commanded us not to do those things. It's pretty obvious from natural law those things are wrong anyway. The Ten Commandments are derivable from natural law anyway.
By the way, which of the Ten Commandments do Atheists and Agnostics object to? It's pretty obvious there is only one TRUE CREATOR, so you should honor him and not someone or something else instead of him. It's pretty obvious that murder, adultery, theft, blasphemy, etc are wrong. So which of the commandments do Atheists object to?
Most BELIEVERS or so-called believers treat God like a magic Genie. They expect God to give them wealth and solve all their problems, but if you read the Bible, humans are CURSED through sin, and therefore God is under no obligation to help, much less bless, a sinner, except particularly int he realm of repentance and salvation. It pretty much says that in Isaiah and Ezekiel too. God is not our "problem solver" to do all our work and stuff for us. He is the KING and we are the peons.
Every statement you make about what is ´´obvious´´ to you, which you think should be to the entire collective of humankind, is based solely on your belief system. which contains the all encompassing answer to everything - God, the obvious one true creator, for you.
You accommodate everything around you to THAT belief system, insisting that anyone who doesn't have the same belief system is ´´obviously wrong´´. Then to try and prove you're obviously correct, you refer to a collection of documents and stories whose veracity you accept unquestioningly, again because it fits your belief system.
I'm not here to argue for or against your belief system. I don't care what you believe. The only TIME I care about what YOU or anyone else believe is when you try and FORCE me to live by YOUR beliefs. So please, do NOT come back at me trying to prove the correctness of your belief.
I DON'T CARE. What I am here to do is dispute your claims.
´´ The Ten Commandments are derivable from natural law anyway.´´ ---
* No, they're not... not even close. They're completely man made. Marriage is a man-made concept, therefore, so is adultery. In nature, murder, robbery, coveting go on all the time. So does fidelity in some species, and rampant infidelity in others. If you want a case for application to only humans, then don't try to justify as a natural order of the animal kingdom.
@loveslongnails Silly goon. Marriage and Monogamy in general protect from rampant transmission of STDs. So it is quite natural to marry and stay faithful.
Killing your own species is contrary to survival of the species, besides, if you had LOVE you would not break any of the 6 commandments which pertain to your neighbor anyway.
Then you people wonder why I say you have no morals.
I never said anything about emulating animals, you lying jackass. In fact, homosexuals try to emulate animals because they think a homosexual animal justifies a human being homosexual: it doesn't. Humans are a higher life form and higher intelligence than an animal, and we are to be held to a higher standard.
Liberals now want to marry animals and fuck animals too. They are out of their freaking minds and need to be institutionalized.
You are incapable of a civil discussion, as you've shown before, and prove once again here, spiraling off into homosexuality, STD's, and nonsense like ´´ In fact, homosexuals try to emulate animals because they think a homosexual animal justifies a human being homosexual.
And you state it as FACT. You have not stated a single fact yet. You can't even distinguish between a socio-economic/analytical method of processing information (liberal though) from your religious dogma.
You ignorantly, STUPIDLY believe that all liberals are homosexuals and all homosexuals are liberals, and they want to fuck animals. You don't have all your oars in the water, sir.
Again, I don't give a flying fuck what you think about my morals, especially from where you sit, especially how you judge others. You really do think you speak for your God, and you blather out your venom as if you understand the Universe at large.
THEN... you try and tell others about LOVE? You need to pull the log out of your own eye, dude.
@loveslongnails No. Love is not acceptance of other people's evil.
"Thou shalt not hate thy neighbor in thy heart. Thou shalt in any wise love thy neighbor and rebuke thy neighbor and not suffer sin upon him."
You liberals think "love" is accepting every stupid bullshit that comes down the pipe. That's not love. That's SIN.
WHICH OF THE TEN COMMANDMENTS DO YOU OBJECT TO, ATHEIST?
ANSWER THE DAMEND QUESTION, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T RATIONALLY OBJECET TO ANY OF THEM WITHOUT LOOKING LIKE A COMPLETE FOOL.
I simply meant to cast our burdens on Him because He can endure what we can’t.
There you go again. It's pathetic. ´You liberals this, you liberals that´. And WE sound like fools. You don't even understand what liberal means, or what liberal thinking is. You're a fringe wing nut screaming at the crowd.
** You don't answer or consider questions, so why should I bother answering yours?
** Once again, you display your complete ignorance by assuming I'm an atheist BECAUSE I haven't said I believe in YOUR God. LOL
** You continue to display your ignorance and your rage ( by typing in caps, rather than using them for emphasis as thoughtful people do) by assuming that I ´´object´´ to any of them.
And not the least of all, it's hilarious when you quote your little book as if you're demonstrating how you live by it. AS IF the quotes are who YOU are, while you scream at everything you don't comprehend, calling it sin.
As I said... pull the log out of your own eye. There's no love coming out of your camp, no matter what you think.
Most sensible people understood that to be what you meant.
@loveslongnails There is only ONE GOD dummy, that's the point of the First and Second Commandment. If you don't believe in THE ONE TRUE GOD (who's name is never given in scripture, by the way,) then you are an Atheist or worse an idolator. So which are you then? If you are not an atheist, you sure act like one..
You're really a waste of time. And you don't even know your own book, if you're talking about the Judeo-Christian Bible. The name ´´ Yahweh´´ is mentioned over 7,000 times. If you're a Muslim, I know nothing about your book.
I also know that if you're a Christian, your book says to dust yourself off and go to the next town if your words fall on deaf ears, so preaching to me is disobeying your book. Judging me is even worse according to your book.
The ´´acts´´ that I have performed so far are to tell you that everything you ever argue stems from your particular belief system, and it accommodates any and every narrative you want. That's a factual statement. If you don't like those facts, it's not my problem. That's about all the intake you can handle without reverting to your usual bullshit, so have a nice day.
First of all, there is no "God". But what the hell does "pour our pain onto God" even mean. Does pain come in gallon buckets or 2 liter bottles? How do you pour an abstract concept like pain onto an imaginary god?
It’s just a figure of speech to illustrate what to do with our pain.
No, why would you? He can't help you, he wouldn't even care about your problems.
It’s not just you, but if you don’t believe in God don’t waste your time with my question.
Oh i 100% believe in God. I just dont worship him.
Yes, go to God he will help you. He has helped me
Religion is just one big coping tool
true.
He will heal us.