Can You Believe Babies Like This Are Being Circumcised?

[Sunrising]

There is no place for Circumcision of Babies in our society.

There are a few religions that practice this procedure one being the Jewish faith.

But did you know Circumcision of Babies in the Jewish faith could be stopped almost immediately if "The Principle of Pikuach Nefesh" was invoked by the Jewish people.

If a consensus emerged within the global Jewish Community that Circumcision is causing systemic, unnecessary harm to babies, which it is, the practice would be stopped.

There has been an Evolution of Rituals many in ancient biblical laws (such as specific forms of capital punishment or agricultural laws) are no longer practiced today because rabbinic interpretation deemed them no longer applicable or ethical in contemporary society.

Even today a growing modern movement within Judism called Brit Shalom (Covenant of Peace) or Brit Ben celebrates the welcoming of a baby boy explicitly omitting the surgical procedure.

Jewish families already choose this path without breaking their connection to their faith or identity.

Hopefully more religions and people quickly come to their senses, and the world eradicates this archaic practice.

A. I didn't realise babies are being circumcised.

B. I do know babies are being unnecessarily circumcised.

C. Something else.

A total of 12 votes were cast: 6 girls and 6 guys. See detailed results

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1 mo

An anonymous guy just give his opinion, then his opinion vanished for some reason.

He was asking why I should care babies are circumcised.

I've been busy with my career etc., and I only discovered this barbaric practice last year, and I still can't get my head around how in this day and age, society can allow this sort of thing to happen.

It's like the Aztecs making sacrifices to appease their gods, it's so unbelievable.

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1 mo

I need to tell you Circumcision of Babies is a Jewish practice, there are no future medical benefits for babies to have the procedure.

There are no medical reasons for the circumcision except in very rare cases, it is Jewish propaganda.

If you believe otherwise you are mistaken.

The Circumcision of Babies should have ended in the first century AD by all the Jewish people.

[strateguy632]

i am aware and oppose. it is shocking and unbelievable. your argument of "pikua' is faulty because the parents say 'he won't die from it'.

2, "rabbinic interpretation deemed them no longer applicable or ethical in contemporary society" but for this they get MONEY -parents pay the slasher. so they want $.

the only way to convince parents is 'pain.'

but that rarely works. most parents dont even care their baby has pain. so need to ask 'do you care he feels pain'?

[strateguy632]

i agree it is like aztec worship with human blood.

[Sunrising]

I used to know some Jewish people, well I still do they are just like anyone else, I don't know their views on circumcision of babies I didn't know to ask, they are probably against the procedure like myself.

[strateguy632]

in israel a trend is growing among jews to stay intact but no. reform encourage the cut. so probably most American jews will cut. the reasons they say are opposite of sense.
1. to 'look like me' said dad -but covered. we wear pants! zero sense.
2. as a symbol of identity. but covered. nobody will see... hopefully? not something people show?
3, for religion, also nonsense they, most jews especialy reform and conservative- so 90% jews- ignore 90% of traditional laws and 95% of bible but -selected the brutal cruel pain bloody pagan one. that is the one?

[Sunrising]

What people do when they are adults is fine with me, it's just the circumcision of babies that is barbaric.

[strateguy632]

True it is brutal. A rabbi explained circumcision debate to me. "They say it is barbaric so i ask if barbarians did it."
Now in the hebrew text we can see: zero basis for "cut" anything nor "skin".
Rabbis say abraham cut but the hebrew word for cut that IS in story of zipora is NOT in story of abraham nor in lev. 12. Gasp.
The claim biblical obligation is baseless. It is purely rabbinic and mistranslation in kjv "circumcise" no word to "cut" anything. And cutting skin? Skin is not mentioned.
Whatever it means it is not a source to "cut skin".

[Sunrising]

Thank you for taking the time and trouble to post your information, I hope between all of us we have persuaded one or two future parents or grandparents not to have their babies circumcised.

[strateguy632]

you are welcome @Sunrising
pain is an important issue for me. so sharing what i know, with an ally, is worth my time. preventing pain and saving infants from pain is my major goal in life, but sadly people dont care when it is not their own pain.
even parents rarely care about their own baby! so finding an ally is a rare opportunity.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Non-consentual circumcisions are barbaric regardless if it is for religious or aesthetic reasons. In the rare case it is for a medical necessity (and i do mean like it has to be diagnosed as an issue), then fine.

Circumcisions performed on babies otherwise is no different than cutting off their finger just because you have an affinity to the looks of The Simpsons characters.

It's all made up and only harms the child in most cases and severely mutilates them in the most extreme cases. It should be ended as a practice outside of extreme medical cases.

[EmmaMary]

It's quite simply the most barbaric act that can ever be performed on defenseless, innocent babies.

The B******* who do this need to be strung up until dead.

[Sunrising]

Many babies have died because of being circumcised.

I haven't looked very hard into this subject, but I suspect there there have been 10s of thousands deaths, who knows perhaps millions of deaths because of circumcision of babies.

In 2023 Mohamed Abdisamad a six month old boy died after undergoing this surgery.

A jury inquest concluded his death was due to infection after the circumcision.

Due to neonatal circumcision severe complications like sepsis, shock, and deaths are documented in medical and forensic literature.

[EmmaMary]

Thank you so much for the MHO.

[WhiteSteve]

You can certainly feel however you want to feel about it; but for whatever it’s worth…. I’m fine🤷‍♂️😂 I kinda prefer it for myself, aesthetically. If we all decided to stop doing it, that’s fine too. I’ve lost more foreskin than sleep over the issue, lmao

[Sunrising]

I'm pleased you feel the way you do, let's face it no point crying about it now.

But you didn't have a choice in the matter, and the situation might have ended unnecessarily different for you.

You might wonder why I should care, but I do because the situation appalls me, though I'm sure your parents had to accept the situation too, because of pressure to conform.

[WhiteSteve]

That’s fair. Warrants consideration, for sure👍

[Sunrising]

Honestly it warrants more than consideration, it needs to stop now!

[exitseven]

My parents had me circumcised when I was a baby. I can barely remember it. My father had to get circumcised in his 50s. It was very painful. I had my two sons circumcised.

[Sunrising]

I have never been in the same environment as yourself, non of my ancestors have been involved.

[exitseven]

When I was a kid, there was one kid in the crowd that was not circumcized. None of us knew what to make of it.

[Sunrising]

At school I had the same situation, but the other way around, but I didn't want to embarrass him, and ask him about it.

[exitseven]

we sort of had a nickname for this kid.

[Sunrising]

With the kid in my class he was accepted as different but I felt sorry for him.

[Sunrising]

Circumcision of babies is something that should have been stopped in the first century AD by all the Jewish people.

[jshm2]

Yes, and I encourage it.

STD and STI rates fall in circumcised peoples as do risks of certain cancers and UTI's.

[In_Trance]

I hope everyone remembers this question the next time they think Jews aren't the problem