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Is Feminism REALLY About Equality? (Page 2)

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  • the_rake
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    Yoda Age: 34
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    Feminism is not about equality. Egalitarianism is.

    Even the dictionary definition is not really about equality, not if you define the term etymologically.

    I might make a take about this.

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  • SunsetRose
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    It sounds like the video is crap and she doesn't know what she's talking about.

    This feminist is out.

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    • rose004b
      rose004b
      +1 y

      She knows that 3d wave feminism is BS. Being capable of recognizing that makes her smart.

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    • M_A_X
      M_A_X
      +1 y

      Sorry, but would you care to elaborate on what you've said? There's nothing substantial here for anyone to disagree with, and your disagreement with the video is also not substantial with only that dismissive statement

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    • Kylesar
      Kylesar
      +1 y

      Trying to dismiss arguments with a lack of supporting evidence

      Seems very 3rd wave feminist-like

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    • SunsetRose
      SunsetRose
      +1 y

      Dismissive? You stated the argument clearly in the take, and I agree with it. This is yet another case of feminism gone wrong. The broad overarching statements she uses only succeed is spewing propaganda. And men ARE in fact oppressed by their gender, but it's not something we talk about enough.

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    • M_A_X
      M_A_X
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      Sorry, but I've still yet to hear a solid argument from you about anything. So, all of the leading, very famous and rich feminists that she quotes are feminism gone wrong? Where is an example of feminism gone right?

      Give me an example of a broad, overarching statement that she's used and we can discuss it. Simply saying that she's making broad, overarching statements without elaborating is, in all honesty, a broad, overarching statement on your part. Please be more specific.

      Also, if you believe in the patriarchy, I'd like to ask you, who is the patriarchy? Is it the government? Do you support taking down the government, in that case?

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    • Transigence
      Transigence
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      "And men ARE in fact oppressed by their gender, but it's not something we talk about enough."

      It's not the GENDER that's doing the oppressing!

      Oh look, that woman is stumbling half-naked down the street, threw up on the sidewalk and passed out on a bush. Obviously it was her GENDER that did these things right? We need to talk about what DRUNKEN ASSHOLES all women are.

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    • Transigence
      Transigence
      +1 y

      Projection isn't just a room in the back of a theater.

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    • SunsetRose
      SunsetRose
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      You can't even accept it when I agree with you so I'm not going to take the time to understand my viewpoint. I have nothing more to say but maybe you should read this

      www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a26337-like-the-feminism-dislike-the-feminist

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    • SunsetRose
      SunsetRose
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      *explain my viewpoint

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    • M_A_X
      M_A_X
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      You're being the worst kind of hypocrite right now. You said "The broad overarching statements she uses only succeed is spewing propaganda." and yet, I don't see you providing any evidence or saying anything except broad-overarching statements yourself.

      And it's my fault that you won't defend your point? Again, "You can't even accept it when I agree with you", and yet you can't accept that she disagrees with your views and elaborate, like she elaborated. You're actually saying LESS than she did. Hypocrisy at it's best, honestly. I'm giving you every chance to defend your point here. If you don't want to, then it's obviously not as important to you as you claim it is.

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    • M_A_X
      M_A_X
      +1 y

      Just so people know for posterity, I didn't block her, and I still haven't blocked anybody on this site. She just can't argue with the fact that she's being a hypocrite.

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  • Anonymous
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    +1 y

    This debate has been going on and on forever now, people can't just let it go~ let it go~

    In all seriousness the whole point of feminism is stupid.

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    • M_A_X
      M_A_X
      +1 y

      I don't think that giving up or ignoring an issue is a good way of dealing with it.

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    • Transigence
      Transigence
      +1 y

      No, we can't. Feminists are hurting society and actively making life unjust for men. Until they are relegated to the same social status as klanners, this will never end.

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    • mistixs
      mistixs
      +1 y

      @Transigence KKK attacks and murders people. Feminists don't. Anti feminists do go on mass shooting sprees in the name of anti feminism though. (Elliot Rodger and there was one shooting in 1989 or so where an anti feminist shot feminists at his school.)

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    • Transigence
      Transigence
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      @mistixs Actually, feminists do assault people. I have a playlist full of feminist violence on YouTube. They spit on people, blockade and disrupt people's events, destroy property, and engage in endless harassment campaigns to throw their weight around.

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  • LittleSally
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    It is...
    What it turned into today I don't know...

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    • M_A_X
      M_A_X
      +1 y

      I think you mean that it "was" then?

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    • LittleSally
      LittleSally
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      In my mind it's still feminism. I'm not sure what others make it nowadays. But today, for me, it still IS normal plea for equality. Maybe we should call it egalitarianism now. Not sure... But then we would deny the fact women have been oppressed for so long and still are in certain aspects and societies.

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    • M_A_X
      M_A_X
      +1 y

      Lots of people are still oppressed in certain societies, but none of us live there. Human trafficking and child slavery are still very much things. You have to focus on cleaning up your own backyard before you look over the fence and start complaining.

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    • Transigence
      Transigence
      +1 y

      But women, as a SEX, were not generally oppressed! That's the whole point! Feminism is academically fraudulent.

      Everyone wants there to be equal opportunity between men and women, but fewer than 1 in 5 will identify as a feminist.

      It's because we reject the revised feminist "herstory." We don't call it "oppression of women" when women couldn't vote because... neither could men! (There was a BRIEF window when men could vote and women could not (and it was because men had to serve in the military, women did not), but it was closed quickly and inappropriately (women now have the right to vote with no corresponding obligation, but men still have the corresponding obligation to serve)).

      Just because some good things came out of feminism doesn't mean that it is at its nature a good movement. It NEVER was. Read the declaration of sentiments then compare the claims in it to reality (of the 1850s).

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    • Transigence
      Transigence
      +1 y

      It's not feminists' stated mission that we object to. It's the entire fraudulent belief system that goes with it that we reject.

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  • aliceinwonderland69
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    Explorer Age: 40
    +1 y

    Damn she hot for a feminist.
    They dumb because they think equality means the same.
    We can be equal but different.

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    • M_A_X
      M_A_X
      +1 y

      You should watch the video, because she's not a feminist :P

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    • aliceinwonderland69
      aliceinwonderland69
      +1 y

      Maybe that's why she hot.

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  • asiantriforce
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    Xper 5 Age: 26
    +1 y

    This! This is cancer! This is SO MUCH CANCER!!! I can literally feel the tumors growing on my back! This needs to stop! IT'S TIME TO STOP!!! STOP!!!

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  • Polocrew
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    Guru Age: 31
    +1 y

    Are they still going on? Lol feminists are just sexually frustrated and mad cos they can't get D

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  • Anonymous
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    +1 y

    All these dabates about race equality or gender equality or whatever are largely irrelavent and distract from the real issue our society faces: the wealthy, capitalist and political elites. Income inequality is a real problem for the whole world.

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  • skeptic007
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    Yoda Age: 35
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    noooooooooo it isn't
    it's about power and splitting up the family

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  • Walls_and_Doors
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    Xper 7 Age: 38
    +1 y

    Short answer: Yes.

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    • M_A_X
      M_A_X
      +1 y

      Short answers are dismissive, explain yourself, please

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    • Walls_and_Doors
      Walls_and_Doors
      +1 y

      General mainstream ideology that holds true to original roots still aims for equivalency for all persons in matters of State and Society. It really hasn't changed all that much. Many outlying ideologies exist which taint the central political ideology with nonsensical or impossible goals including the expression of overzealous third wave ideals.

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    • M_A_X
      M_A_X
      +1 y

      Really, you don't think it's changed? I haven't had a decent debate from a single feminist in this entire take. Have you read some of these comments?

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    • Walls_and_Doors
      Walls_and_Doors
      +1 y

      This isn't a website specializing in debate or discussion; not finding a "decent debate" about political ideologies and sociopolitical civil rights history is to be expected. Most people don't even know the modern "mother" of the current feminist wave and only know if a few of current feminist issues or why the wave was necessary in the first place.

      But as everything evolves the roots of the movements still can relate to their core values spoken of over 200 years ago.

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    • M_A_X
      M_A_X
      +1 y

      You try using bigger words than you can. You don't know how to use commas. Any public forum is a place for open debate.

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    • Walls_and_Doors
      Walls_and_Doors
      +1 y

      Do you want debates or "good" debates? Because no one said you couldn't debate here but that it is not built for it. As for "big words" only one of us considers them "big".

      So what exactly did you have to say? Because I'm not going to debate the intricacies of grammar with you note count letters.

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    • M_A_X
      M_A_X
      +1 y

      Only one of us actually uses words that have meanings, bud. You circle around a point like you're going to duel with it and then chicken out.

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    • Walls_and_Doors
      Walls_and_Doors
      +1 y

      Did you actually want something? You've said a lot about me but nothing in what I said on the topic itself regarding third wave and it's connection to its original roots.

      I haven't the interest in people like you like I did when I was younger.

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  • Careless_Whisper
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    Xper 6 Age: 42
    +1 y

    fuck feminism

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