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If gender is a mental state, what is the mental state in order to be a man or even a woman? I'm legit asking.
It's called cisgender.
TLTR, The art of creating problems that don't exist...
ya imma need chemotherapy after reading this cuz I think I just goT CANCER
If you're not going to actually give a sort of reply that's relevant then it would be considered spam. Why not actually explain your issue instead of insulting months of my hard work? It's pretty rude.
the issue is that all these "genders" and "sexualities" (your take didn't include all the far fetched fucked up ones cuz there are tonssss of those) is all bullshit and just gets more and more convoluted. If you actually look up allllll the "genders" that currently exist according to the wiki, you can see to the extent how, not only confusing, but contradicting and nonsensical it really is. Just one big messy mind boggling grey area, not everything needs a damn label.
I'm not saying it's all perfect. I purposefully only included the most simple genders and orientations that one's most likely to encounter. Technically, there's really an infinite amount since it's all a subjective matter to society. Meaning it can be altered as many times as people see fit.. now I'm not saying all of those types of things are even acceptable (or even make sense).. but this was just scratching the surface of a big social issue. And you're right. Not everything needs a label! (There's even a term for that gender and sexual orientation haha).. But see? This is a more appropriate response. But, I'm curious, what do you think of what I've actually provided? If you read it all or at least scanned enough to understand my general argument.
hey, thanks for the level headed response, I'm actually pleasantly surprised with your maturity cuz most people I've encountered would have just called me a bigot or a trump supporter if I opposed them. Lol you shouldn't take me seriously cuz I say dumb shit on this website all the time (hence my original opinion)
In all honesty, I may have my disagreements with the topic of this take but your mytake itself was fairly well done and it will serve to be very informative to those confused or interested about this whole gender & sex stuff lol
Yeah same for you also!
Nah. I don't resort to those kinds of assumptions about people lmao. I think people who do that stuff are obnoxious (even if it's someone I'm agreeing with).. Like.. You can have a convo without entering that vast political realm more than is necessary 😂 But yeah thanks thanks~
To understand ones difference in gender, pull down the old zipper and take a look. If you see something sticking out with a sack, you're a dude. If you don't see anything sticking out, you happen to be a chick. Now for orientation, it's really simple, dudes like chick, chicks like dudes and opposites make the world go around.
You live in a really black and white world huh? Where's that getting you? Just curious
Call it a black and white world if you want. I'll stick to what it is, reality, common sense.
People can like whoever they want to. That's not really up for you or anyone else to decide. Chicks don't necessarily always like guys and guys don't always necessarily like chicks.
That true they can like whoever they want, but the reference pervert may still apply.
Why's that
Your use of transvesite isn't correct. Eddie Izzard refers to himself as a transvestite? So no. It's not always for sexual pleasure.
Also I only believe in two genders. You can be trans but you're either one or the other.
I used the literal definition of the term. It's other people who don't exactly use the word correctly.. also, I did take the time to explain how I partially agree with what you've said.. however, "gender" isn't the correct word to be using. It'd be "sex".. as that's what you actually mean I'm assuming? Unless you don't think that people's personalities and preferences matter in how they identify themselves? From how you worded yourself, it seems like you meant "sex" since you mentioned trans.
You're telling me Eddie Izzard - an actual Transvestite - is using the term incorrectly? Really? You clearly don't know Eddie Izzard.
And no. I meant gender.
Don't make out like you're the only person who gets to define what words mean. Lots of people use the words tranny or trasnvestite to describe themselves. It doesn't mean they're wrong and you're right.
And preferences? So i can go around and say I'm a cat today. That's my preference? No. You're male or female. You're a man or a woman. There's one or the other. Yes trans people exists but all the others don't.
Again.. I'd just like to point out that you're strictly describing sex here.
No, I'm not familiar with Eddie Izzard.
I haven't invented these terms.. just defining them in a more clear manner so minimize misinterpretations.
Eddie Izzard has been on this planet a lot longer than you. I'm sure they're very happy with their own definition of themselves. Maybe you should have researched more.
You've cause misinterpretation by stating something that is incorrect. This is basically a copy and paste job. You've not looked for any other sources. I mean I appreciate the point of it but you're not 100% correct and to not admit you're wrong is pretty arrogant.
I've actually done extensive research on the material for this take across numerous months thank you very much 😅 Arguably put more effort into this take than most others do. It's kinda my pride and joy at the moment if I'll be honest. I was expecting a lot of backlash from people who simply see the title and get too triggered to not even bother reading my article that I slaved over but eh. It happens and it was certainly doomed to happen to this. But my definitions are not a copy and paste job (I did mention specifically in my take that I was taking the words and putting them in my own words for the most part to optimize a reader's understanding). You can go and do the research and try to find those definitions elsewhere but unless they were copied from me, you'll be fresh out of resources.
Oh so you have a degree in this field then? No you don't. So don't make out like you know more than the person living that life. Nobody can see it took you months and to be honest I doubt it. It really looks like a copy and paste job. But if you're putting them in your own words your definition is incorrect! How many transvestites do you even know? My resources come from people living, not google.
You sound like one of the kids on tumblr. And it's not a good thing. Admit when you got it wrong and learn from it.
It's not a copy and paste job because it's not the official definition if you've actually read what I've written lol. Besides, it's pretty rude to be making those types of claims after I've worked really hard on this article. I'd like to see you write something like this quite frankly. If you're just going to sit back and critique my hard work with hardly any justification like you're currently doing lol.
Why should I write something like this? To put incorrect definitions out? To put people into tiny boxes that are clearly marked? No thanks. This isn't that impressive. I'm giving you some constructive criticism, why don't you just accept that? I can go on any page with these definitions and see you've just taken the info from there. This isn't a piece of creative writing or something that's been embellished. It's like a dictionary.
And if it's not the official definition then clearly you can accept that you got something wrong?
This is life buttercup. Not everyone is going to fawn over you, people will critisise the things you put out. This isn't a safe space.
Literally the entire point of this MyTake was to define confusing and common terms regarding this information as I clearly stated more than once in my article (did you even read it?) and as I said, please feel free to even use web scanners to find my exact definitions anywhere else because you won't unless someone copied my exact words lol. Yes, you're right in that this article is in a dictionary format. That's purposeful. But as I've said, again, I explain these terms in my own words for a better and less vague understanding. As they can get pretty contain out of context or on their own. This is designed to be a resource for those looking for a certain word or even looking to learn about a certain word or just learn about a thing or two in general. Hence I labeled this article as a "guide" as that's what it's designed to do- like a dictionary.
There's clearly a lot of disconnect between what I'm trying to convey and what you're receiving and interpreting. Firstly, did you read?
Yes I read it. Again, it's not correct. That's my issue.
There is also trans-species, like the woman who believe that she is a cat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sObPHx2QMY0There's the bad eggs in every bunch. That sort of thing isn't anything that I support even mildly. It really doesn't even have any relevance overall from how I understand things. You can, in no fashion, be any other species apart from a human in any sort of effective manner. Sure, I guess you can play pretend and whatnot but things just get really questionable really fast and I gotta recommend those people to find another way to express themselves that could be more productive. So I guess that's my stance somewhat lol
Ohh I get it you can play pretend as a man that’s actually a woman but you can’t support a cat that’s actually a human... makes total sense
@Stmarco the only one who'd be playing pretend is the woman acting as a cat lol. Humans are so far biologically from cats that one simply could never truly feel that sort of biological connection. As for the difference between males and females? There's hardly any, honestly. Very small differences in the chemical makeup of our bodies dictates our sex.. So yes, logically, there's a lot of potential leeway between the two. Not everyone is created perfect. So if someone truly feels more connected to their opposite sex, they very well might be. As for someone to a cat? Sure.. They could appreciate the lifestyle of a cat and their nature and "culture".. I guess? But no.. You biologically would have no connection. We're simply two different species. Even feeling biologically connected to chimpanzees (our closest DNA relatives) is still somewhat of a stretch.. And they're the closest creatures to being us! Surely you understand my logic?
No I don’t understand your “logic”
@Stmarco it appears that trying to reason with you or even debate on any logical sense is pointless lol
@Stmarco actually, it has more to do with your tude
@ebbyeb cats are mammals, so they are not that far from humans, biologically. There is enough differences between male in females in reproduction sense and in sexual attraction sense. It's not only about chemical makeup , it's about sense of reality. What is feeling as something that you are not had to do with biology? biology is all about facts, it's not about hallucinations. Also it should be argued that a woman feeling that she is an female cat, make more sense then a a woman feeling that she is an human male, even though all of those thoughts and behaviors are not normal.
By any chance did you do well in any sort of biology class? I'm just curious.
@Stmarco so you completely ignore my point when I could just not be lazy and simply whip up a simple biology lesson 🙄
@Stmarco what's there to save at this point? :/ seems totally hopeless at this point to me
@Stmarco soo you agree with me then proceed to ask me what I mean?
Lmfao where's the logic?
Sir and Ma'am
Man and Woman (biological men and women)
That's all there is that's all, anything else is utter nonsense.
Yeah. Biologically. That's the sex you're talking about.
Did you read this at all or just read the title and maybe the first few sentences?
I read it all.
Does not sway my opinion, there are 2 genders/sexes. Male, female, the rest do not exist and are utter nonsense.
That's your opinion I guess. I just ask that you at least don't disrespect anyone due to this sort of stuff.
It's fact, that is all.
There is no scientific basis for anything other then male and female and these dozens upon dozens of "genders" are just made up, there is no actual sciefitific basis for any of it.
No actual scientist who's a real scientist meaning isn't bought and paid for by the left and is unbiased actually believes in this thousands of genders and that gender itself is fluid.
Medical professionals even stated that transgenderism for instance is a mental illness.
So actually it's more then an opinion and sorry but I'm not going to respect an opinion that is based on nonsense and the "science" of feelings.
Just because someone identifies as something doesn't mean they are that thing. If you came across a kid who legitimately thought they were an airplane and acted like they were and genuinely believed it, you'd send them them to a head doctor and call them mentally ill.
Well all these genders, it's the same thing and it should be treated as such.
Gender and sex isn't the same thing.. So of course there wouldn't be any scientific evidence to compare the two like that.
How about I just don't give a fu** and call people what they look like, like a normal fu**ing human being?
This pc culture has GOT to go!
Sure, you can be rude and disrespectful and gloat about it on the internet if that's what floats your boat for the day.
Just know it makes you look like an enormous prick lol
What do you mean by "pc culture" though? This stuff is real and relevant.
"pc culture" is the culture of political correctness. Back when I was growing up there was "LGBT" and now people constantly want to add more and more letters to it. "Queer" is a meaningless term for snowflakes and I'm not convinced asexuals are even a thing.
I just don't think people need a guide to understand gender. There's male and female and any one of those can feel like they're the opposite gender. So it's male, female and transgender.
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Oh and by the way, being an enormous prick in this age of safe spaces is quite a necessary thing. Adults.. ADULTS will go into rooms with blankets and coloring books.. LOL!
That's part of the problem. You're describing someone's sex. Yes, physically there's only female and male. As for gender (the mental aspect of identification)? There's more of a variety in how people feel in their own skins.
Well, I suppose that's one way to get your point across? I'm just pointing out the fashion in which you did it. But I'm glad more has come out of your initial comment.
But yeah, that's a really therapeutic thing. Lots of people have their own ways of unwinding after stressful situations.
As for asexual? Well, it's a bit of a foreign thing to me, but it's just basically not feeling any sex drive, which everyone knows can be an issue at times.. however, there's some people who simply have a non-existent sex drive. It's just something that happens I suppose.
I'll respond to you in order of what you typed to make my response easier to understand.
If you accept that gender goes beyond male or female, then you must also make room for absurd "genders", such as people who identify as attack helicopters.
Fair enough on that 2nd paragraph.
Oh come on.. are you really okay with adults who never grow up? If I saw an adult who needed a coloring book and a blankie I'd endless mock them. They're failures and a product of parents who spoiled them and never told them "no". This is what happens when everyone gets a participation trophy.. nobody grows a damn spine!
From what I understand, asexuals claim to have the same amount of sexual desire as you and I but "don't think of anything" when they pleasure themselves. I find your explanation much more believable than what asexuals have told me.
Thanks I appreciate it!
Sure. There's people who always take things above and beyond what's typically normal. I'm not promoting the attack helicopter sexuality that may or may not exist within a five or so person population.. But everyone's got their hobbies I guess. Sure, it's not my thing and it's certainly not yours but I mean whatever floats their boat I guess lol. You know that I mean what I'm saying though. ^ as in such examples in my article.
I mean not exactly.. We're kinda off topic now but coloring actually is really therapeutic. So I say sure! Pop out a coloring book here and there it's got numerous benefits.
Huh.. That's odd.. Well they're not asexual by definition then lmao. Just posing as one I guess. Since a true asexual experiences literally next to no sex drive or urges etc. meaning they don't get turned on, don't pleasure themselves etc. they simply get no drive to and gag brining out of it.
I'll have to agree to disagree on some of your points but you seem reasonable enough.
Well, that's fair enough! And I totally respect that. I'm not looking for an entire agreement but hey, if there's a bit more of an understanding that's totally fine with me. Thanks for your time :)
Sexes=genders. I don't see the point in calling people over 1000000 different things when we are still the same thing biologically. I don't need a ton of labels to call someone.
There's really not that many lol. There's not even more the twenty categorizations that are relevant to this population of people. Sure there's a special outlier here and there but there always is. It's not that complicated lol
Wow you out a lot of time and effort into that...
I really did.. working on and off for months. I'm pretty surprised that I actually managed to work up enough stamina to finish it!
Cool
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=define+gender
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"with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones."
Understand what this means before getting back to me~
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"the state of being male or female"
You missed my point ^_^
No, I completely understand your point. But you're completely ignoring the complete other half of your "example". If anything, you're just furthering the proof for what my entire MyTake is about lol. I might even include that little nifty link.
In other words, since you clearly didn't understand what I was saying, gender is a construct created by society. You're talking about "sex" which specifically and solely IS based biologically.
Do you understand now? Or have you got some other argument you want to propose?
lol I'm not "ignoring" it. I know that gender and sex are two different things, but there are only two genders. That was my whole point. Only two genders.
Then what's the difference between the two? If there's male and female sexes how could there be simply just make and female genders.. You note that there's a difference but then don't seem to recognize it. Because by your logic they're the same thing (you even handily provided the definition for all the world to see) so then why're you also portraying them as the same thing? Wouldn't they just be the same thing then? You're contradicting yourself do you see?
sex is biology. gender is a social construct. They just have the same labels. Things can have the same labels but mean different things. You're wrong, do you see?
What a waste of time; sorry to say.
Confusing all of this superficial garbage for love is truly a sad thing.
Sorry? I don't understand what you're getting at.
My biology teacher said in a lecture said that there where only two genders. Fucking cis white males am I right?
He means there's two sexes most likely. Otherwise he's a questionable biology teacher lol
There is male there is female, I’ll accept the gays even. Then there is the mentally ill
In relation to sex, yeah there's strictly make and female (and I suppose hermaphrodites) but gender is different by definition. Can you elaborate by what you mean though?
Yea sure, being “ gender confused” is a mental illness.
Gender and sex are the same thing.
What classifies it as a "mental illness"? What science is there behind your claim?
Diagnostic and statistical manual. It’s literally the mental illness dictionary
Lol bet you thought there wasn’t any evidence, fool
From my understanding, being gay has actually been officially declared as NOT a mental illness due to the stigmas of being gay finally being lifted somewhat and people simply not being as ignorant and close-minded to the topic. So, again, not really sure where you're getting any of this from fam :)
Gay no, trans yes
Very informative...
Thank you. I certainly tried my best to do just that
Interesting
Thanks! Took me a long time to write it
There are only two genders, everything else is a mental illness.
Have you read the article or are you just regurgitating your beliefs? Since I did actually make the point of saying that sex and gender are, by definition, unrelated for the most part. Elaborate on what you mean by mental illness also, if you could.
You forgot to include biphobia and biromantic!
Not necessarily that I forgot, but you don't see those terms terribly often (I tried to keep this as basic but still relevant).. so there were some words that had to make the cut. So I included more umbrella terms than getting ultra specific. Also, there's just sooo many words at this point! I wanted to finish writing this also haha~!
thanks much maa'm peace and blessins
Two scoops, two genders.
Scoops? If you're going to comment can you at least make it less obvious that you didn't read?
I read it but it's all just unsourced nonsense that sounds like it came out of a corporate academic humanities department. And humanities are only barely a cut above pseudo-sciences like alchemy and astrology.
"Unsources nonsense" that, again, you make it very clear that you didn't properly read lol. I made it very clear that I defined the words based on my understandings of the terms (since they get really confusing on their own).. so it's best if there's another way to say them, some insight I suppose you could say. So.. of course it's "unsourced" if it's my own words. Again, if you're going to continue to try and have some sort of debate with me (what even is this?) then at least not make yourself a fool by at least reading more (if not all).
Well if it just boils down to opinion then my opinion is that these people are simply misguided or mentally defective.
Hmm... Well you can view people that way if you wish I suppose. That's totally up to you in how you interpret things. I'm just writing an article to clear the air on some confusing words lol