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In your opinion, was the assassination of Iranian's top general Qasem Soleimani justified or not? (Page 2)
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Its just propaganda in order to justify killing him. Its useless. At this point the US government just expect the world to accept their foreign policy like an Ox takes a yoke. Its ridiculous.
No, it was not justified, and my opinion is - There will not be peace on Earth until western imperialism is stopped for good.
Nope. Not to mention the Bloatus threatening Iran with war crimes if they do anything about it? Disgraceful.
Completely unrelated, but he looks kinda sexy for an older guy🤣
But yet Trump is no good he is yet to be assassinated. 🤔
the guy had killed between 300 and 800 Americans already. That's not defensible or factually deniable. Yes, I think the man should have been killed. I'm glad we elected someone with the balls enough to do it.
It was a stupid move. The guy was no saint but killing him was never a solution.
He was just doing his job. Iran is mostly Islamic and that belief and it's followers are the most peaceful on the planet. So... No.
The world has done gone shitty & more shit to come 💯
Trump said he did it to save more lifes in The future
I Wonder if thats true or he is abusing the Power he owns
Its probably a lie to distract his impeachment situation and to start war which then will cause for the American people to rally around him.
Sometimes you seem like a reasonable man. Then there are times like this, wher you come off as a total _______... facts don’t start with “it’s probably” or “if” or “maybe”, . Do you know of any evidence that even hints that what you say is “probably”... correct?
It’s one thing to disagree with potus about all kinds of things, it’s another to repeat such outrageously stated (probably) lies... The former is understandable, the latter is not.
Do you really think Trump is so clever, and cunning, to be able to pull off such a long involved tactic that will assure him of anything, on this scale? I do not. 😎
@Girther10: I can not assured with 100% accuracy Trump's intention or what Trump says nor am I going by what the media say because they lie to push a narrative.
I just understand finding a reason and causing a war produces a whole a lot money for some military contractors and benefits Trump during an election year.
Yes it is usually half truths coming out of Washington, Iraqis wants us gone that should tell you something
Not only was he plotting attacks. He had already been linked to multiple terrorist strikes against United states assets
No, I think the Patriot Act should be withdrawn and congress should approve any acts like this. The possibility that our dumbass president could cause wwiii all by himself is flabbergasting.
Based on past actions, including the attack on the US embassy in Baghdad recently, absolutely. If he was planning more, that only makes it more justified.
To those who disagree, explain to me why you think it was not.
Regardless of whether justified or not, trump is beyond foolish to do this without congressional approval or advice from pentagon.
Kind of like the Iran Nuclear Deal or the invasion of Iraq? Every president has done something without congressional approval.
Just what we needed more Muslim Terrorists willing to die for their stupid religion. Trump was right. If you could go back in time and kill Baby Hitler would you? Is that ok?
Well no, the consequences of doing so could be far worse than what actually happened.
Absolutely. He’s responsible for so many American lives.
Not justified. Both Obama and Bush Jr. had the opportunity to take out Soleimani, but they didn’t because their advisors recommended against it. Trump received similar advice, but he didn’t listen, as usual.
I mean is straight up murder ever justified? war is war and you can bet it's definitely coming along with Russia and china
Timing is everything... there's no doubt he's a terrorist. The rest is about timing.
nice to see americans like you are stooges to the system lmao.
obama is a terrorist, clinton is a terrorist, bush is a terrorist, trump is a terrorist... so essentially you support terrorists.
@The6ix I don't support any of those people, or fools like you.
I shall lose zero sleep at night knowing he was smoked.
I don't know but I think it wasn't quite the right move
In my opinion it was invasion to sovereign country.
US need to do it diplomatically, not just flex their muscles.
I'm not justifying dead general, only method, was not appropriate...
So the attack on our embassy, which is American soil, doesn't count for anything?
It does not give you right to invade that country.
Defend it and move to legal battle... Those attackers, could have been paid by American people to do it, just to stir some s**t up.
We didn't invade a country, Iran did.
And either provide some shred of evidence of such a kooky theory or leave the conspiracy theories out of this.
So there been permission, to fly that drone over their country and bomb their general? In my book it was invasion...
Like, they had no evidence in Iraq oil war, but they made it up (wmd, they found none..., That is fact) just to get that oil. There was so many sheeple who believed that BS and still believe, wmd...
And just by label it ' conspiracy theory ' will not make it not possible true. Did they provide any evidence that those people were not paid by American people?
Whatever you see on TV is 80% manipulated BS...
Yeah because another country is going to say "sure you can fly that drone into our airspace to kill our top General, no biggie".
You do realize the WMD claim came from British intelligence right?
You're the one making the claim that the "protesters" who stormed our Embassy are paid by America, which puts the burden of proof on you, not me or anybody else. Learn how making accusations works.
So you saying, that is excuse ( they would not give us permission anyway) to invade foreign air space to shoot rocket at general + countless other civilians?
You do realise that before attacking other country you have to check intelligence or any claims yourself before any action, that is legal obligation, not join just ( "Somalian president told me they have...")
Learn to check your facts from primary sources, not just TV.
USA done it before in Iraq Oil war probably you did not heard it on US TV.
Are you another burger flipper or welfare lover, who thinks that TV info is absolute truth?
What civilians? It was a Military target.
We're already in Iraq. You realize this happened in Iraq, not Iran right?
Lac...
Why you had to spoil it all?
I was waiting him to get or just see how many people will see this as rarely people read/listen all BS on TV...
He is a military man. Why would anybody think he wouldn't be a target? He knew the risk many years ago.
They weren't at war though. You can't just assassinate generals of countries you aren't at war with.
I see. Iran attacking us and others (unofficially) doesn't count. Right!
We won't count his actions and decisions as a General as military decisions. Right?
Yes, he killed some US troops while the USA was ILLEGALLY invading Iraq based on the lies that the Bush administration fed the American people. You act like this man has attacked US soil, he hasn't, his actions against the US were because the US was in the wrong. He wasn't a threat to the US, he had largely been responsible for taking down ISIS.
Finally, you say that this is justified because he ordered his men to kill American soldiers? Then should the people who ordered the Iraq war be executed? What is justice? How is it justice that an Iranian general be killed for 600 American deaths, but thousands of American, and middle eastern lives were lost in americas invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan yet no American general or politician is even tried in court? Give me one good reason why any of the American generals who led the war in Iraq deserve to live any more than Suleimani?
I guess you've forgotten about the marines and navy personnel who died in the attacks in Lebanon?
America makes mistakes sometimes. But we are a good country. We mean well, but are not perfect. All nations try to push their own ideas on the world.
I'm an Amercan. I'm not evil. Do feel you are?
I'm not American, and I dont feel like the American people are evil, but the leaders are lying over and over and pushing for more war, and the American people keep letting them get away with it. You say they mean well, yet American troops are hijacking syrian oil. The American leaders don't mean well, Bush did not mean well when he invaded Iraq and afghanistan, Obama didn't mean well when he continued the regime change wars, and Trump doesn't mean well by trying to start a war with Iran. American intervention in the middle east is all based on one thing, natural resources. That's why they overthrew the Iranian government in the 50s and put the Shah in charge. The Shah was a dictator who allowed gave the USA whatever they wanted, he was overthrown by the Iranian people because he didn't serve them.
America has made mistakes? No, Bush lied, we have evidence of that now. They knew that Iraq did not have weapons of mass destruction, yet they knowingly lied to the American people. If anyone deserves to die for the American lives lost in the middle east, it's Bush and the members of his administration who helped push the wars in the middle east. You act like Suleimani deserved this because he killed 600 American troops but Americans have done far worse and gotten off without any repercussion. Trump should be tried and sentenced to prison for commanding his troops to steal oil from Syria, he is a criminal, a thief, yet he will get off without any repercussion. So how the hell is it fair or just that Suleimani die and every American president/general who has done worse gets off without any punishment?
“We’re keeping the oil. We have the oil. The oil is secure. We left troops behind only for the oil" -Donald Trump.
The American military is a pirate/terror organization that pillages other countries and steals their natural resources, the American military serves corporate interests. The American people need to stand up and stop the inhumane actions of their government.
Most leaders, in any country, are liars and cheaters and not very good people.
When you join the military, you accept that you may be a target at some point.
That doesn't make it better you dingus. You can't just assassinate leaders of other countries. Imagine if Mexico assassinate Mike Pence? He's a politician so he has to accept that he might be assassinated.
I don't care if they're good people, but they being hypocrits and war mongers! Suleimani wasn't a good guy, but killing him was stupid, it was a clear attempt to start a war, and it's hypocritical because if Suleimani deserves to die for his crimes THEN SO DOES TRUMP!!! DEATH TO TRUMP!!!
So. You make your argument by calling other people names and being insulting?
You've already lost the argument when you reason as a child. And you've just convinced someone to not think as you do.
Because I said the word, "dingus"? whatever then, feel free to continue accepting that every politician/general is evil and therefore Trump is somehow justified in murdering the general of another country. Next thing you know, Trump is going to order an assassination of Justin Trudeau because Justin laughed at Trump at the Nato summit, "he is a really bad guy who had plans of attacking the US and it's president, this attack was totally justified, because I say so."
Legit, Suleimani killed 600 Americans during a state of war. I don't know how he can be held accountable for that, we don't hold American generals accountable like that when we're at a state of war. If we did then we would sentence the leaders of the Iraq war to prison. Then every American general who served in Iraq deserves to die. They killed innocent people and it doesn't matter that it was a time of war, if Suleimani can be assassinated for his crimes, then every American president and general should be assassinated, because they all have dirty hands.
I dont think murder solves anything, but that man was no good
It seems like a proportional response to the Iranian sponsored attack on our embassy in Iraq.
Justified because he was like Osama bin Laden and would have killed if given the chance.
He deserved to be killed as much as Osama bin Laden.
Not a great idea to do this we may see a war that could of been avoided better to let un handle this
US had no right to do it + Trump did it without the approval of the congress.
President doesn't need congressional approval for such action.
Why did he have no right? The guy was one of the world's leading terrorists.
@JesseTheMan There is a lot of shit that past presidents have done with the approval of Congress or the Senate. Quit acting like he's the only one.
Without the approval** my bad.
I don't care what past president's have done, they're not in offoice now, are they?
If you weren't complaining then, you shouldn't be complaining complaining now. Plain and simple.
I don't remember what the fuck I was thinking 4+ years ago. We live in the present, not the past brah.
Exactly so you still don't know what the fuck you're thinking now.
I think you missed the point bro.
Oh no it's perfectly clear that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. If real world shit wasn't relevant to you then, it isn't now.
It's called memory, not sure if you understand the concept.
It's called common sense and I'm sure you don't understand the concept.
Not what I expect to see on a site like this I gotta admit XD
Yes it was justified, but we should not stop. We need to go ahead and get it over with.
For plotting attacks and the attacks he had already plotted. Yes, I think it was justified.
It was morally tight, but geopolitically stupid. There is a reason why Bush and Obama didn't try.
Hard to say. It's a bit shady to just kill some random general, but I guess he was a bad guy.
Yes it was, only the ignorant will say no because they don't know facts.
And who told you the "facts"?
@Hispanic-Cool-Guy Who told you yours?
I don't claim to know the truth unlike you calling someone ignorant because they don't the facts?
@Hispanic-Cool-Guy Research, history, factual witness accounts, the man was a dictator/terrorist and should have been removed 20 years ago, but no one had the balls to do it up until now.
Maybe true. But know what you researched is what someone else wrote and wanted you to believe.
@Hispanic-Cool-Guy So then what is factual and what is not, i'm not a conspiracy nut, if there are multiple incidents and witnesses then the info tends to be true.
Yes, but you are referring to something bad that he did 20 something years ago. Trump said he was preparing to attack diplomats and US allies, how do you know Trump is telling the truth?
@Hispanic-Cool-Guy No he has been doing bad things all along not twenty years ago alone.
He has promoted terrorist insurgency against the USA all along, he has been responsible for over 600 military service mens deaths, as well as many thousands of allied forces deaths, rocket attacks, military action against the USA and it's allies. He needed to be removed to break the ties he had with terrorist groups that coordinated with Iran.
Completely justified! That fucker had to go
Both of the people who asked this question were women, are women just plain stupid or are they ignorant
Of course not, it’s a pretty clear provocation
Neither. This is leading to the end of the world. Thats for sure!
Justified and waaaay overdue.
The down vote is a CNN or MSNBC viewer. They can't be rehabilitated. I won't try. If you are from the EU, you'd either be speaking German or an ancestor would be a lampshade if the USA didn't save your bacon. If you are American, you are not on our side.
Without the USA, the EU will be living under Sharia Law in 10 years.
Justified. Wish we had taken him out a lot sooner.
Yes, it had to be done.
Assassination isn't the word I'd use. More like eliminated is what that was.
This is one of the coolest things Trump has done.
The orange skinned freak did it all for the oil
Definitely. Dude was a terrorist
It was stupid and reckless
The US are a major threat to word security.
No. Just those in power currently.
@Anoniemus not only currently
Sure. The gun-crazy uneducated irrational Republicans
@Anoniemus it's mostly the politicians, it's also not like Obama cared about war crimes
I believe it was totally justified.
According to Obama's DHS Secretary, yes.
Don't really care but the dude looked badass
Im not losing any sleep over it.
Ew
Imagine riding his face
That’s your first thought? Lmao
Absolutely necessary..
Who cares about that crap
Yep! Eliminating scum is always justified.
Nope he was best person
Piss on him
Not Justified.